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Post by mattsnapper2 on Mar 27, 2004 21:51:39 GMT 1
Tinson was superb today. Wish we had of signed him at the latter end of last season.
I like Derby more and more. Trevor was good also.
First half we were good going forward, playing tactics that I score lots of goals from when playing Playstation - getting the ball to the blyine and cutting it back to the six yard box, Hereford couldnt defend us.
Our passing was good, but 2nd half what ever we tried to do, Hereford defended with ease.
However still feel - GOING FORWARD last season's team would have scored goals.
Aldershot were a good team. So were Hereford and they deserved it on points. If we win our games in hand, think our standing will be a true reflection on how we are fairing in this league.
Easter report... C+/ B- but could do better - much better.
Quinn I think IS a good manager, but its time to at least question those around him.
GOING FOWARD last seasons team would have scored a hat full at Hereford.
Roland... please ring up Brian Horton.
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Post by scooter on Mar 28, 2004 3:03:12 GMT 1
I thought our defending was dodgy at times, especially in the middle of the defence.
They should concentrate on marking instead of waiting for offside flags that don't come.
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Post by who knows the score on Mar 28, 2004 3:04:55 GMT 1
How do you know KR didnt want to sign Tinson last year?
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Post by scooter on Mar 28, 2004 3:19:04 GMT 1
But I do agree we could have done with him last year. Didn't Macc refuse to let him go until the end of the season ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2004 4:08:35 GMT 1
How do you know KR didnt want to sign Tinson last year? KR may very well wanted to have signed him last year, but did he?
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Post by Red Blue and Amber on Mar 28, 2004 8:47:35 GMT 1
He may have wanted to sign Michael Owen but didnt manage that either!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2004 10:19:50 GMT 1
Good performance- probably edging my player of the season- Ridler not so reliable in last few games- why does he have to consistently clatter into the back of forwards and give away dangerous free kicks
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Post by MartinB on Mar 28, 2004 10:55:05 GMT 1
. Quinn I think IS a good manager, but its time to at least question those around him. I have not seen any evidence of Jimmy Quinn being a good manager. To me a manager is someone who gets the best out of the people who he leads. He brought in the people around him so he is responsible for them being there. JQ's quotes after the Aldershot game were a disgrace for a manager. To say words to the effect of the other team were more motivated. My response would be who's fault is that. The manager should sort it out. If he can't then the board should by getting someone who can. RANT OVER.
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Post by welshdan1 on Mar 28, 2004 10:57:36 GMT 1
think both ridler and tinson have been excellent defenders but their distrubutionis a bit dodgy.
They just lump it forward. herefords centre backs seemed good at feeding it to the forwards feet or putting it down the channels for forwards to chase.
Overall i am glad we have them though!
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Post by shrewforever on Mar 28, 2004 11:38:26 GMT 1
Have to agree with MartinB on the Quinn is a good Manager bit.
What do you base that on Matt??
Lacked tactics far too often Lacked formation far too often Lacked cover for vital positions all season,you know who covers for central defence even now,arguably the most important area of a successful side?? Far too many games when the body language of the players has indicated that they seem far from happy with each other never mind the Management Team.
No, pretty poor effort in my opinion.
Good squad of players no doubt and some good signings I'll agree but getting them to play as a cohesive confident football team,hopeless,biggest underacheivers in the League in my opinion.
Apart from Hereford home and away,Aldershot away,Woking away,Telford at home in the Trophy 2nd half if you think hes a good Manager I'm sorry mate we havent been watching the same Team.
Last 15minutes last Tuesday night NO midfield FIVE up front like watching schoolboys play in a panic,no sorry mate you'll have to convince me.
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Post by MartinB on Mar 28, 2004 12:54:22 GMT 1
Spot on Ed
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Mar 28, 2004 13:27:41 GMT 1
Good performance- probably edging my player of the season- Ridler not so reliable in last few games- why does he have to consistently clatter into the back of forwards and give away dangerous free kicks The defense are under pressure if were not scoring goals and the ball to be fair over recent games has been coming back at them very quickly because were not holding up the play in our opposions half.
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Post by well would you believe it on Mar 28, 2004 14:28:02 GMT 1
Maybe he was prevented from signing Tinson
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2004 14:31:54 GMT 1
Maybe he was prevented from signing Tinson Football is full of ifs and buts and unfortunately for KR he didn't sign Tinno
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Post by oh Im mad on Mar 28, 2004 15:07:19 GMT 1
He would have done had he been given the money that he had asked for. Whats a quarter of £120,000? Not as much as relegation to the football league.
Maybe KR isnt the only bad guy, maybe people should look a bit closer to home.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2004 15:49:34 GMT 1
All ifs and buts owd lad.
What if he hadn't been able to sign Mickey Heathcote at the start of the 01/02 season?
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 28, 2004 21:09:36 GMT 1
Tinson is always good (well nearly) and should definitely be player of the season. Not only is he a good defender but also a good captain both for the team and the club. He never forgets to clap the supporters, particularly at away matches and he talks to his team. Yes he is superb.
Even if KR could have signed him last season (we wish) he would never have been allowed to become Captain and talk and encourage the team like he does now so I'm not sure it would have made any difference. I don't think he knew himself that Macclesfield wouldn't want him this season so why would they have told KR.
In my humble opinion he and Ridler are the best central defence since Walton and Williams.
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Post by lier lier lier bums on fire on Mar 28, 2004 22:36:31 GMT 1
a club in macclesfield position, low gates etc...
Are always in a position to accept half decent offers for their players. They simply cant afford to turn them down.
As for captain, O'Connor isnt captain and he still encourages and talks to his team mates, he even talks to the ref.
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Post by x emz x on Mar 28, 2004 22:47:40 GMT 1
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Post by blueblood67 on Mar 29, 2004 0:21:16 GMT 1
Hi Matty.Last week you called me a low life(a bit harsh i thought lol)because i called the telford manager a clown,well after reading your ramblings at the start of this thread,compared to you Jones is a switched on guy,"Quinn is a good manager,time to look at those around him" ???i just hope you had alot to drink before posting this or YOU really are a clown
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2004 0:42:22 GMT 1
a club in macclesfield position, low gates etc... Are always in a position to accept half decent offers for their players. They simply cant afford to turn them down. Even if it means being relegated to the Conference? Sorry, just turning your argument on its head.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 29, 2004 0:50:35 GMT 1
>>>>In my humble opinion he and Ridler are the best central defence since Walton and Williams<<< Not been a lot of competition for that over the years has there? ?
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Post by SeanBroseley on Mar 29, 2004 1:01:56 GMT 1
I think Ridler and Tinson are too similar.
There are two sides to the story regarding signing players - the club's story is that there was money there to be used but Ratcliffe didn't use it.
Mattsnapper is just having a pop at Chic Bates - as usual.
With regards to Tinson - it was clear to him that he was on the way out before the end of the season. He didn't see eye to eye with the manager, and felt that the team pulled together almost against the manager to avoid relegation.
May be some of that is needed now at Shrewsbury Town.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 29, 2004 1:14:55 GMT 1
Our back two has been exposed against the better teams this year
comparisons with Walton / Williams are frankly laughable
I think they are trying hard and doing well, but to compare them with two first division players is pointless
ridler and tinson do a job at this level, it is a very low level
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2004 3:22:26 GMT 1
Against the top 5, we have conceeded 12 in 7 games.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 29, 2004 11:10:12 GMT 1
Sorry didn't mean to be controversial. Just meant that as a 'partnership' they work well like Williams and Walton. And yes there hasn't been too much competition recently.
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Post by True_Shrew on Mar 29, 2004 11:28:21 GMT 1
I'm starting to have reservations about Dave Ridler I'm afraid, it's not that he's a bad player but it seems that he lacks concentration and awareness of the players around him, but what else can we expect at this level.
Tinson is the best central defender we have had here for a good decade, my only fear is that we lose him to injury at somepoint soon and then we would be fecked.
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