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Post by kickinpretty on Jan 23, 2004 12:37:02 GMT 1
I have been researching how to go about setting up a political party and it isnt that difficult, it does however cost £175 to register as a political party. If you stand a s an Independant then you dont need to register or pay a fee.
We have three options i suppose
1. We register as a political party and try and contest all seats where there is an anti attitude towards progress in Shrewsbury.
2. We form a focus group that remains independant but supports our own "Independant Candidates" and canvasses for there election.
3. We form a focus group that does not have its own "Independant Candidates" but requests a written letter of support for the cause fromprospective mainstream candidates in return for full backing, canvassing and support from the focus group.
The choice is yours Ladies and Gentlemen...
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Post by pawlo on Jan 23, 2004 13:29:36 GMT 1
I have to agree with some off the earlie posts on this and say that by putting up candidates you will only split the vote, which guaranties very little. But by backing our supporters, with help and VOTES we could make a difference.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2004 14:00:37 GMT 1
I agree with 3, and believe that if fully informed, united and focused, we could make a difference to the election outcomes in our favour.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2004 14:05:35 GMT 1
why libs and dems welshshrew..? that shows we have policital affiliations and therefore hate the torys Agree Matt, and I said as much on another thread. But here, I was just trying to say that in reality, the outcome will be that it is the Lib/Lab candidate best placed in each ward that we will want to back.
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Post by SurreyShrew on Jan 23, 2004 14:13:44 GMT 1
The party name has to include the words NEW MEADOW.
Let's keep it simple and go for THE NEW MEADOW PARTY!
It has to be a single issue party and let's not, at this stage, get involved with any other party. Can you honestly say that any party will honour any committments to a New Meadow party. And if they are worried about it, they will approach us. If we go to them they immediately have the upper hand.
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Post by SurreyShrew on Jan 23, 2004 14:16:07 GMT 1
The idea is not necessarily to get someone elected, although this could happen, but to make eveyone see that we are serious and prepared to go through the political process to get what we want if necessary.
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Post by Reverend on Jan 23, 2004 14:37:15 GMT 1
Ok! How about Let us redevelop the Gay Meadow party with no charge for the covenant. Why? For all intense purposes we already have the NM it’s just the GM that's stopping the work being done.
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Post by charlese on Jan 23, 2004 15:05:50 GMT 1
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""We have three options i suppose
1. We register as a political party and try and contest all seats where there is an anti attitude towards progress in Shrewsbury.
2. We form a focus group that remains independant but supports our own "Independant Candidates" and canvasses for there election.
3. We form a focus group that does not have its own "Independant Candidates" but requests a written letter of support for the cause fromprospective mainstream candidates in return for full backing, canvassing and support from the focus group.
The choice is yours Ladies and Gentlemen...""
My choice is 3 For what its worth
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Post by mattsnapper2 on Jan 24, 2004 4:03:49 GMT 1
Hi all....
Im sorry if I p**s a few people off with my radical messages. Many of you dont know me deep down.Ok Im a photographer but Im also an 80% trained consellor and I guess I write stuff to create a reaction as like many of you I so dearly like to see peoples opinions on STFC. Im sorry if I bug any of you. Im just me at the end of the day.
Right.. A New Meadow Party.
I spoke with Ade and later Whitts to Keith Sayfritz and gained valuable information.
Im not stepping back in anyway, but just lets say STFC and the New Meadow should not be a problem in the coming months.
I dont have any radical political beliefs but just get angered at the Conservative Council that runs this place and the crap SARA come out with.
SUFAN do an amazing job.
From what Keith said, I feel at the moment we should just concentrate on getting the message accross on what politically the Torys have done in block voting against the new meadow.
I have nothing personal against Alby Fox or Banks and accept fully they dont want a stadium in Ottley Road... we have to be fair and adhere to their own opinions, but we need to address the issue more of what the Consertatives have done and put them in to a corner and make them squeel.
Im not going back on my initial enthusiasm of a New Meadow Party but after speaking to Keith, however sceptical I was, at this moment in time I dont feel us creating a party of somesort will achieve things that wont be achieved in the coming months.
We need to concentrate on more spin, more arguments on what the Torys have done and make average Joe Public know whats REALLY going on.
If I felt 1% the need to create a party, I sincerely would. However dont.
I will get some more info and address the issues that need to be tackled soon.
Like I said my own poltical beliefs will remain inside me and will not be broadcast on this board or anywhere else, but I feel if we went as a political party at this stage we may alienate the labour and liberal counsellors who have been behind STFC and the New Meadow. We dont want to anger them by taking votes off them and not letting them gain elections.
We just need to get a serious message accross that, as us, 4000 Town fans that we are not happy what the Torys have done, but remain netural in the same process. Please trust me and voice your opinions here for all to see
Up the Town
Matt
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Post by kickinpretty on Jan 24, 2004 20:27:57 GMT 1
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 25, 2004 17:02:06 GMT 1
number 3 has my 100% support
I suggest that SUFAN is the vehicle through which we make it happen
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2004 18:26:41 GMT 1
I think on this occasion I think number 3 is my favoured choice too
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Post by gingashrew on Jan 25, 2004 18:35:52 GMT 1
Definitely 3.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jan 25, 2004 22:30:35 GMT 1
I feel it would be more useful if we had regular, well-written and well argued letters counteracting the rubbish that Cllr Fox and Bob mennell write every week. Does anyone coordinate it? I've been tempted to write twice this week but didn't in the end. My point would have been that both of them use arguments about covenants, flooding, council subsidy etc as a smoke screen for the only thing they are concenred with - stopping a new stadium in Oteley RD - they don't care about theatres etc, it just an indirect way of getting at the New Meadow.
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Post by dan d on Jan 26, 2004 12:21:36 GMT 1
shrewsbury comes first party
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Post by d00bie on Jan 26, 2004 23:02:52 GMT 1
I don't have much no faith in politics i'm afraid I fully believe whatever party has control of the council manipulates for their own agenda. Just because the Tories blocked us doesn't mean that Labour or the Lib....? (whatevers) would have voted to not block us. One wise man said "it doesn't matter which party is in power it's always the government" Anyway that's the end of the party political from me. BTW Mattsnapper i loved the piccy of Sven and the "new meadow" shirt that would look good on a billboard or 2
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Post by skipwithrob on Jan 27, 2004 12:24:36 GMT 1
it certanly would should send it back into the star (if that sort of thing is allowed) with a headline along the lines of "Its what the nation wants!" ;D
I'd go with 3, we should try and coerce the other parties into backing the new meadow by backing them now.
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Post by kickinpretty on Jan 28, 2004 12:54:29 GMT 1
Ok - so if number 3 is the popular choice then somebody or some group needs to start putting a co-ordinated plan of action together.
Theres only a few months left to get this up and running, we need to be issueing press releases by early march and then really impose our wishes on the electorate by the begining of April.
Lots of research needs to be done, and powerfull arguments need to be formulated.
Can we please have some action on this front before the enthusiasm to do something wanes!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2004 15:34:43 GMT 1
There is an Umbrella group meeting on February 10th (I think) - I guess this would be a good opportunity for the idea to be raised so each supporters rep could get back to their group regarding it.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 28, 2004 19:56:12 GMT 1
There is an Umbrella group meeting on February 10th (I think) - I guess this would be a good opportunity for the idea to be raised so each supporters rep could get back to their group regarding it. and I would suggest Mr Plimmer and SUFAN will be the driving force, as they have been so far
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