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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2004 11:13:52 GMT 1
Have to say I was v.impressed with the Town support yesterday. What impressed me most was the singing that continued throughout the first half when Telford were on top. Excellent.
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Post by jamo on Feb 29, 2004 11:17:49 GMT 1
I agree Ant, even the Wakeman got singing once or twice.. What was it like in the centre stand, was there any baiting or goading amongst the different sides.. i don't think i would have been able to keep my mouth shut when The g***'s scored.
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Post by Bilbo on Feb 29, 2004 11:25:29 GMT 1
Overall the Atmosphere was excellent. Tho' we did have the usual d*ckheads singing no surrender (once) and your just a town full of p*kis.( 3 times). I was disapointed with the stewards for not seeking out the individuals who were chanting this filth. I said to one of the stewards that this type of abuse is not tolerated by the the club and he just smiled.
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Post by jamo on Feb 29, 2004 11:39:26 GMT 1
I agree Bilbo, rascist chanting like that should not be tolerated by anyone at the club,Just one thing though......... Is it permissable to sing about ...A town full of g***,s . I need to know for the replay because i am guilty of this. I happen to believe that it's a true statement, i work amongst them and have seen the evidence at first hand. Do i fall foul of the charter if i continue this practice
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Post by Stevenelsonfanclub on Feb 29, 2004 11:52:00 GMT 1
Jamo, "g***'s" is indeed racist as it is detrimental to the Romany culture.
You would be able to get away with "tatters", if that helps, as this is a generic term for peple rather than being specific about a race or culture.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Feb 29, 2004 12:20:13 GMT 1
Yes, there was some singing from the (river side) of the Wakeman end. First time since the Everton game.
It tends to be isolated people or small groups though, so you can feel a bit embarrased at times.
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Post by RuytonShrew on Feb 29, 2004 12:50:24 GMT 1
Overall the Atmosphere was excellent. Tho' we did have the usual d*ckheads singing no surrender (once) and your just a town full of p*kis.( 3 times). I was disapointed with the stewards for not seeking out the individuals who were chanting this filth. I said to one of the stewards that this type of abuse is not tolerated by the the club and he just smiled. Fully agree with BillBo. They also followed up the 'Paki' chant with 'Shrewsbury is white'. Stewards did nothing. I'm sure it is intimidating for them but they volunteered for the job and should take action. They are an embarrassment to the thousands of good fans who gave such terrific support throughout the game...
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Post by MartinB on Feb 29, 2004 13:01:30 GMT 1
Nothing was done about the fire cracker being let off, so why bother with chanting
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Feb 29, 2004 13:02:26 GMT 1
Theres only a handful that actually partake in such chants, and it is a rare occasion now at most matches. If a steward goes in to sort it , he's likely to cause more of a stir and maybe find themselves in a uncomfortable position , i think the immediate boo's are a much better reaction from the surrounding crowd, however if it persists at every home game then , it would be a case for stewards and police to sort.
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Post by peterjones1 on Feb 29, 2004 13:53:52 GMT 1
I don't want to generalise too much but I know alot of the people who help drown out the dodgy chants with booing are B&A posters, who spent the game in the executive box. Perhaps that is a reason why the chants were more audible than they should be?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2004 18:34:46 GMT 1
At least the racist chants weren't audible to the other side of the ground.
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Post by Theoneandonly on Feb 29, 2004 19:10:59 GMT 1
Overall the Atmosphere was excellent. Tho' we did have the usual d*ckheads singing no surrender (once) and your just a town full of p*kis.( 3 times). I was tempted to start on the 1st time, but realised that its racist and grabbed my mate to stop him joining in.
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Post by PeteD on Mar 1, 2004 2:09:06 GMT 1
i know of 1 b&a poster that sang the no surender song i know this cos i watched him sing it some people who know me also know who it was cos i told them
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 1, 2004 2:24:18 GMT 1
a few of my friends were really annoyed about the racist chanting, and the simple answer is let us drown them out and ask the club to act
unfortunately i wasn't there
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2004 9:50:57 GMT 1
Apart from teh IRA song there was the songs along the lines of town full of.... and shrewsbury is .....
Fortunately it was booed out by the intelligent fans in the riverside before our football club became too embaressed
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Post by Young_Shrewster on Mar 1, 2004 10:06:21 GMT 1
Where was you 'ThrobsBlackHat'?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2004 10:08:28 GMT 1
He was working
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Post by welshdan1 on Mar 1, 2004 12:25:45 GMT 1
I couldnt believe the chants i was hearing at the start of the game. I stand close to where the songs start on the riverside and haven't anything like that for a while I have heard the IRA song a few times which does get booed and drowned out but the other songs made it alot worse saturday. I know this is because of the local rivalry which attracts the morons but i hope these people dissapear back into their holes now!! I would love the stewards to sort it out but as previously posted this would just aggrovate the situation and town fans showing their dissaproval seems to work.
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Post by Bilbo on Mar 1, 2004 12:41:01 GMT 1
In previous match's ive seen the local bobbies with a video camera. Surely if the club invested in one, they could arrange for a steward to Video the morons singing these racist songs review the tape and ban the barstewards for life once recognised.
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Post by pawlo on Mar 1, 2004 12:45:32 GMT 1
I thought the atmosphere was really poor, more especially in the first half. The ground seemed really quiet at times, I put it down to expectation and nerves. Got going in the second half though when the Town players joined the game I think the club should have acted against the racist chanting. Although I was i was in the Wakeman Stand (the heart of the action ) and never heard it, it is pointless the club having a policy if its not going to be enforced, then it stops being a policy and becomes a nice little request. Correct me if im wrong, but this is one of the few home games when the clubs policy on racism wasnt announced over the speakers (not that it would have done any good).
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Post by bazeus on Mar 1, 2004 13:57:28 GMT 1
i have approached the stewards on a couple of occasions to complain about not only the singing of these "songs" but also the total lack of any action by the stewards to stop it. I have witnessed on several occasions the stewards standing next to these p*llo*ks, just laughing. The usual response is write to the club, or "can you point out the offenders" which brings us back to naming and shaming! I was not going to stand in the riverside going "hes one, hes one" and explained such, also adding that their stewards are well aware of who its is as they are stood next to them. I am not totally knockin the stewards here, they live in the town and will no doubt bump into these "gentlemen" in the town, but why cant they get the coppers to sort it their getting paid for it?
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Post by skipwithrob on Mar 1, 2004 19:56:36 GMT 1
Untill the club take the battle to the racists we will continue to have a vocal minority who shout racist and biggoted songs. The club need to be more pro active and for once in its sorry existance not sit back and expect the majority of fans (a number of whom come with wives and children, so dont want the hassle) to fight the battle for it. I just wish I'd been there to boo those prats down.
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Post by shrewsbadger on Mar 1, 2004 20:13:46 GMT 1
It's odd how you get differing prospectives in different areas of the ground! As soon as I got to my usual spot, I thought there was an eerie quietness to the crowd, which I felt had lasted into the second half with a chorus of Come on you Blues! Glad to hear it wasn't like that. The wind must have been blowing the noise towards the Telford end and the seats! As for the racist chants, didn't hear them up my end, but once again we are let down by the moronic minority.
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Post by Georgie Blue on Mar 1, 2004 21:40:44 GMT 1
It is one thing to be intimidate by a group, but ive seen stewards laughing at the racist chanting, and thats unexceptable, they get paid to do a job.
Not all stewards are guilty of putting up with racist comments, but maybe a more pro-active approach would be to notify the supervising stewards (normally one down Wakeman end by the gate) or make a note of the steward (match/gate/name) who is laughing at the chanting, and pass the information onto the club, they have an obligation to take action.
perhaps it can be brought up at the next Umbrella meeting???
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Post by warbiesbread on Mar 1, 2004 21:51:48 GMT 1
Having been on the riverside this weekend, i heard the chants and booed them. What did get to me is that there were at least four stewards within ear shot and did nothing. Although i accept previous points about the stewards and not making it worse, and allow the crowd to keep challenging it i have a real issue with the club who state they are serious about racism and appear to nothing about it, also you couple this with the reduced admission which has failed to appear.
Then i am begining to wonder whether the club is at all serious about any of it policies, and i am aware people will think this is an over reaction but people who make chants like those on saturday do so because they are allowed to by the fact nothing was done.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Mar 1, 2004 22:03:41 GMT 1
We know that JudyS reads this board. The silence is deafening.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 1, 2004 22:06:49 GMT 1
we're due another sign up session for the fans charter as we aim to break 1,000 by the end of the season
and I will be contacting the club directly to ask them about this
I also want it to be raised at an umbrella group meeting
Stewards are there to maintain ground rules and if they are not doing that then they are severely failing in their work
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Post by Georgie Blue on Mar 1, 2004 22:18:22 GMT 1
It will be very interesting to see what the club have to say, maybe you could report back TBH
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Post by Chester Buck on Mar 1, 2004 22:29:03 GMT 1
Personally, I hardly heard any salop fans singing first half, the crowd perked up a bit second half when you got back into the game, but I still think it was pathetic. The telford family song is annoying, as if anyone is imbred, it is the fans of a club located in a backwater country town, not a modern New Town. Best chant of the day by far was 'are you Shifnal in disquise?', a classic!
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Mar 1, 2004 22:50:29 GMT 1
>>'are you Shifnal in disquise?'<<, i heard most chants but not that one,so the telford song is annoying , you just saying that cos your a telford fan, i'm a salop fan and more annoyed at extreme racist chants that were being sang out.
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