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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2004 13:11:34 GMT 1
""I don't need to remind people what it was like last year when they finished bottom of the league by a clear nine points and won eight games all season," he said.
"We've won more games this year. Yes, it's not pretty to watch at times but it won't be pretty if you're on a pitch like that.
"But I just say to the fans, try and be a bit more patient and just stick with the lads and get behind them."
It's January. I'm no longer patient. I want to see some signs of the progress that has been lacking since August.
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Jan 19, 2004 13:20:17 GMT 1
How to win friends and influence people, well done Quinn
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Post by stockportershrew on Jan 19, 2004 13:20:20 GMT 1
well that's alright then isn't it?
yes - you don't have to remind us what last season was like we were there and you weren't. We've put up with nearly two years of mostly dismal football and we just want something to shout about. Not a team that struggles along puts in the occasional decent show. I'd like to be entertained once in a whilei f that's ok with you Mr Quinn. Its a three hour rd trip and costs £20 for me (much more for soem other exiles). So get you house in order first and then criticise the fans.
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Post by Paul Williams on Jan 19, 2004 14:02:56 GMT 1
Yeovil and Donny have shown the standard is not too different beween league division 3 and the Conference so as we are 5th in this league' how can you argue there has not been any progress?
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Post by Bilbo on Jan 19, 2004 14:10:51 GMT 1
I think Mr Quinn as been reading this too much ;D
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Post by Bilbo on Jan 19, 2004 14:12:28 GMT 1
And this one !!!!
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Post by rhythmic on Jan 19, 2004 14:12:53 GMT 1
what the f**k is he on about.... talk about deflecting the flak of himself.... are we supposed to accept this because we were a joke last year? The more I here from this fool the more i think he aint the man for the job! media training my a*se
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Post by shifnalmike on Jan 19, 2004 14:13:06 GMT 1
We cannot compare ourselves to the above mentioned teams. We have not shown that we are capable of 3rd Div survival. I have no doubt (and the betting slips to prove it) that we will win this league,however the standard may be short of last year. You need an average of 2 points a game to win this league. we can do it.
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Post by gregtheshrew on Jan 19, 2004 14:23:29 GMT 1
I hope your right and that we do win the league but on what i have seen this season the play-offs are our best chance.Mr Quinn's comments seem a bit patronising to me,but if he takes us up all this will be forgotten and he will be a hero.Not fickle much are we?
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Post by Shakey_in_Herts on Jan 19, 2004 14:23:41 GMT 1
The man is now repeating himself more and more often. He told us back in September, he knew what was wrong and would put it right. When He told us our superior fitness would kill off teams in the last 15 minutes. Which team in the conference has conceded the highest number of goals in the last 15 minutes of games as a percentage of total goals conceded We will put it right, on the training field. Why not put it right on a match day. No more days off, its going to be work work work from now on. So why did all the team have a day off on the Wednesday after Dagenham We will have a mini preseason come January. When is that going to start Mr Quinn The lads will be doing three sessions a day. How long did this last These things have been told to us for months now. Where is the improvement promised Mr Quinn And then to cap it all his excuses for Saturday was blame the state of the pitch. Wasn't the pitch in a very similar condition this time last year and the year before that His defence of the way we are performing, under his leadership, is to use last year as a comparison. Thats a very poor disguise Mr Quinn. A question for you then. How would we be doing in the Third Division this year the way we are playing Nobody can answer that but i would not like to even attempt to contemplate it. And finally you ask the fans, not for the first time, for patience. Why, because they don't like what they are seeing, means they can't vent their feelings. The fans of Shrewsbury Town FC have turned up consistantly in high numbers to back you and your team and this is how you repay them. The zero tolerance after what they experienced last season is now very evident. The choice is yours not theirs. Get your team to play to standard expected with the quality you have at your disposal or the fans continue to show their displeasure and desert the club. If the heat is to much say now, Mr Quinn.
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Post by DulwichShrew on Jan 19, 2004 14:35:08 GMT 1
good post
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Jan 19, 2004 14:58:38 GMT 1
"Jimmy, stop you're getting me upset" said sarcasticaly. Where is the progress Quinn? NONE absoulutely NONE!
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Post by True_Shrew on Jan 19, 2004 15:23:44 GMT 1
Sorry lads and lasses but I feel some are supporting this club in the wrong frame of mind. Yes we all want progress but the more supporters that harp on about a magical manager who will arrive with a coach load mystical players halfway through a season then the more people will join you on this bandwagon.
Quinn is not going anywhere this season or the next by the looks of it and no matter how influential the supporters have become in this club, this is one choice that is out of our hands for the time being.
This is nothing personal towards anyone who doesn't rate Quinn, I'm just asking a few to be more realsitic when it comes to footballing matters because it will achieve absolutley nowt by starting a witch hunt when this league is no where near over yet.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 19, 2004 16:51:39 GMT 1
Good posts from both FrankwellCP and true_shrew...
Is that true about the amount of goals we have conceded in the last 15 minutes? Thats shocking that...
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Post by Shakey_in_Herts on Jan 19, 2004 17:10:37 GMT 1
Stutty am i right in thinking that you believe my post to be written by TBH We are not the same person, just use the same picture.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 19, 2004 17:14:57 GMT 1
*lol* Its that monkeys fault our kid!!! Sorry about that...I shall change me message immediately!!
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Jan 19, 2004 17:17:29 GMT 1
I'm dissapointed by his comments because the last thing we need reminding of is last year. It shows a total disregard for what we all went through last year, and a alck of understanding. It's almost as if Quinns saying, hey you could have Ratcliffe still hear and he wouldn't have you in fifth place.
Question is JQ, would you have had us higher than 24th with the squad and gouings on he had?
A little bit of an angry AP at the mo!
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Post by Shakey_in_Herts on Jan 19, 2004 17:22:11 GMT 1
Cheers Stutty ;D Ade, those comments made me very angry. A total lack of understanding, looks like he let his guard down again, ever so slightly, and made himself no friends How much of his comments on last season has Bates had any imput into
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Jan 19, 2004 17:32:10 GMT 1
Who knows FCP. Who knows. But I wont stand for comments like that. As I've said elsewhere, there was booing at half time, booing at full time. Otherwise apart from the usual people moaning there was excellent support. Talk about alienating your fanbase, jesus!!!
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Post by skipwithrob on Jan 19, 2004 18:08:56 GMT 1
At least KR team attempted to play football. We may have been bottom of the league but we attempted (admittedly failed misserably) to take teams to task at home.
We couldnt defend thus we the main reason we went down (there were others).
I have been and will be patient as long as we continue to reach the goals laid out by the club and manager. However I see a situation developing, much like the one at Oxford last season, where Atkins was only tolerated because his style of football appeared to be working, however as soon as it appeared that the team were struggling there was a lot of criticisim aimed the way of the side and manager.
Sorry Big Jim, you're the manager, you make the decisions, you choose the team etc.... If the team is so badley affected by a couple of hundred people getting impatient, what the hell do they think their doing turning out on a football pitch.
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Post by skunkie on Jan 19, 2004 19:43:15 GMT 1
At least KR team attempted to play football. We may have been bottom of the league but we attempted (admittedly failed misserably) to take teams to task at home. We couldnt defend thus we the main reason we went down (there were others). I have been and will be patient as long as we continue to reach the goals laid out by the club and manager. However I see a situation developing, much like the one at Oxford last season, where Atkins was only tolerated because his style of football appeared to be working, however as soon as it appeared that the team were struggling there was a lot of criticisim aimed the way of the side and manager. Sorry Big Jim, you're the manager, you make the decisions, you choose the team etc.... If the team is so badley affected by a couple of hundred people getting impatient, what the hell do they think their doing turning out on a football pitch.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 19, 2004 19:47:19 GMT 1
I can feel a letter to the Star coming on.
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Post by skunkie on Jan 19, 2004 19:50:26 GMT 1
Agreed and the last sentence will stand the test in time,Poor pitch you have to be joking,wait a few weeks ,i forgot all conference sides play on Astro-turf.Jimmy has made a big mistake in blaming the fans,without us there would be no club.He should remain Manager for now. its down to him to put things right
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 19, 2004 20:02:12 GMT 1
Too much talking and not enough action from Mr Quinn. A period of silence at this point would not have done him any harm.
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Post by warbiesbread on Jan 19, 2004 20:13:06 GMT 1
I am worried. How can you ask for patience after 6 months plus in post and still playing witout consistancy. What is more worrying is the fact he is begining to sound like THOSE upstairs!! must be taking lessons of chairman.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jan 19, 2004 20:47:59 GMT 1
I doubt if you'll find any more tolerant and patient fans anywhere in the country, after years of failure we've turned up in even greater numbers, home and away, this year and what reward have we got?
I believe in giving a new manager a chance and I don't think that constant changes do any good. But I want to see evidence of a strategy and vision for the future, that's not there and it's a big worry.
The muddles over the team formation are a significant warning - I couldn't believe the comment from the club captain that they only knew they were to play wing backs against Telford the day before the game!
It seems to me that the formation is dictated by the necessity to play as many of his expensive strikers as he can and not by any sensible tactical decision.
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Post by MySTFC on Jan 19, 2004 21:17:20 GMT 1
Come on JQ - I think that basically we are all behind you - just look at the attendances home and away - we just get frustrated when we have only played well on 1 or 2 occassions this season. There is not enough evidence of progress - there is also no evidence of any gameplan even after changing the personnel!
I am constantly reminded of a club and a manager with a vision - Plymouth and Paul Sturrock. They are topping Div 2 with basically the same team that we put 4 past during the petrol strike and beat twice the season they won the league. They have spent very little money (I doubt their wage bill is any higher than ours!!) and they work on a system whereby everyone knows what they are supposed to do and does it.
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Post by MartinB on Jan 19, 2004 22:17:32 GMT 1
I am constantly reminded of a club and a manager with a vision - Plymouth and Paul Sturrock. They are topping Div 2 with basically the same team that we put 4 past during the petrol strike and beat twice the season they won the league. They have spent very little money (I doubt their wage bill is any higher than ours!!) and they work on a system whereby everyone knows what they are supposed to do and does it. Spot on. Look at Chelsea, their players are struggling because the team keeps changing. If players of that class can't do it how do you expect Conference players to manage it. I couldn't tell you what our style of play is.
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