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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 17, 2005 21:54:09 GMT 1
My my, what a lot of fun that was! I'm not sure I like him that much, but he certainly made his point
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Post by harmerhillshrew on May 17, 2005 21:58:22 GMT 1
My my, what a lot of fun that was! I'm not sure I like him that much, but he certainly made his point Spot on TBH, I dont think some of those senators could understand his Scottish accent mind
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 17, 2005 22:01:46 GMT 1
I am not sure I have ever seen such a compelling political debate hang on, it wasn't a debate, it was an assault Some of the american TV networks showed it live, I wonder what they thought "The senator is a Israel supporting, war supporting neo con, engaging in a smokescreen of the real issues and a lickspittle for George Bush's administration" G Galloway crossed off christmas card list for said senator
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Post by harmerhillshrew on May 17, 2005 22:07:08 GMT 1
What you had was George Galloway in British political mode giving it to the Yanks.
They just dont debate in the House of Representatives like we do in the Commons.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 17, 2005 22:10:33 GMT 1
"I met Saddam Hussein the same amount of time Donald Rumsfeld did. The only difference is that when Donald Rumsfeld met him he was selling him guns" genius
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Post by harmerhillshrew on May 17, 2005 22:19:48 GMT 1
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Post by meoleshrew2 on May 17, 2005 22:26:36 GMT 1
The slightly stuttering version is on bbc.co.uk news Flamin good listening it makes too
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 17, 2005 22:29:54 GMT 1
'This whole thing is a smokescreen for a war that was built on a pack of lies. A pack of lies that caused over 100,000 deaths, including 1600 americans' In every generation you have people who stand up for what they believe in and make a stand. I believe we may be witnessing someone like that playing their political cards and having a huge impact I just hope he didn;t take the dodgy money
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Post by Steve Rogerson on May 17, 2005 23:21:18 GMT 1
I thought Galloway was brilliant. I was hoping he would be, and he didn't let me down. i said some time ago on here that I would have voted Respect if they'd been standing in my constituency. His performance today just reinforced that. I have seen him speak live a couple of times, and he is very good and has always made me think he is one of the few sincere politicians who really believes what he says. Respect is a good name for his party.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on May 17, 2005 23:30:17 GMT 1
I think lots of politicians believe what they say, doesn't always mean they are right though. Politics and football really are so alike these days, both dirty, with very few exceptions
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Post by rob on May 17, 2005 23:49:43 GMT 1
A lot of people and journalists who observed his assault on the standing labour mp, who happened to do a very good job representing her constituency, the local muslims and working within it to solve problems would dissagree with the way he assaulted her (not physically) in the election campaign. The man has few friends within Westminster.
Also he's in no position to comment about saddam, he's on film, treating Saddam like a war hero, sorry how many thousands of people did saddam kill, how much of his population did he oppress and how many UN embargoes were placed upon him. The man is a crook. The only reason he got liable damages was because he wasnt given a right to reply in the telegraph.
There seem to be a number of documents linking old George (MR transparancy himself) to oil vouchers, either directly, through his business partner, or through his charity, in which he was paid expenses and his wife was paid a salery plus expenses.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 18, 2005 8:26:26 GMT 1
For me, I think you need to look at the bigger picture. Galloway was working very hard to bring a halt to the sanctions imposed on Iraq that killed many, many people. Galloway was looking to stop the sanctions and to bring about a political and peaceful solution to the situation and to avoid military action. If he believed talking up Saddam would help then so be it. I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt on that front.
As for the evidence, documents that contain lists that include Galloway's name...so what, what does that prove? I seem to recall a document that stated that Saddam had WMD that could be deployed in 15 minutes? With his stance on the war it's clear that some folk are going to be after Galloway to blacken his name in any way possible...its how the game works isn't it. He talks about things that those who supported the war with Iraq would rather be brushed under the carpet and forgotten about...and so I'm sure this won't be the last time they'll go after him...
I thought it was a very good performance he gave in the USA...
One things for sure, he's a breath of fresh air when it comes to politics. Its never dull when he's about...
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 18, 2005 8:30:02 GMT 1
at least he is challenging the system
anyone who thinks that a couple of shady documents dredged up by the CUA in an unnamed location in Iraq counts as good hard evidence must be loopy
And then of course there is the evidence of the former high ranking Iraqi official. I wonder how many years they have reduced his sentence by as long as he frames some opponents of the war and some of the people exposing the lies it was based on?
Galloway may be wrong on many things, but at least he went to Washington in person and said what millions of people around the world were thinking, and what drove over one million people to march through the streets of London
If the governments won't listen to the people then the people have to go to the government and make them listen
The senators looked completely shell shocked
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Post by SeanBroseley on May 18, 2005 8:40:44 GMT 1
Don't forget Galloway is a POLITICIAN, he's not Joan of Arc. His background is the interesting environment of the Glasgow Labour Party.
I listened to the chap who conducted the charity commission investigation this morning - there were things that could not be examined because they were outside of the charity commission jurisdiction because the paperwork was in Jordan.
Interesting theatre never the less. But I'm with Bob Dylan on the subject of politicians.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 18, 2005 9:03:04 GMT 1
Yeah, fair point...but doesn't he have an added interest in Iraq? Didn't he marry an Iraqi lass?
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Post by OldGit on May 18, 2005 9:14:19 GMT 1
The one thing sadly lacking in today's political environment is great orators. George Galloway is compelling and forthright. Whether you like him or not, you cannot ignore him - and be honest, you have to admire his candour and directness. Shame Blair can't learn a few lessons in straight talking from GG - if I'm going to be lied to, at least I'd like it done with a bit more passion
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Post by Carter on May 18, 2005 17:01:35 GMT 1
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