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Post by john on May 9, 2005 17:53:17 GMT 1
JP I You!! quote] I did me best
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2005 17:55:22 GMT 1
My final take on Duane.
Aside from the excellent 11 game run, he was total s**t the rest of the time he was here.
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Post by DDAS 5 on May 9, 2005 17:59:03 GMT 1
Football is all about opinions, I used to get wound up by the critism but not any more, lets just say those who know , know and F--k the rest there not worth it!!! Duane Darby, Goals, Goals and more goals!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2005 18:16:31 GMT 1
"Duane Darby, goals, goals, and more goals"
Get a life.
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Post by MarkRowley on May 9, 2005 18:31:08 GMT 1
Darby has been a proven goal scorer in the lower divisions for years (and always seemed to score against us ). When we signed him I can only recall there being a universal view that he was a great signing - no doubt some smart arse will try to claim that "Oh no, I knew from day 1 that it wouldn't work out". Darby to my mind is a very honest pro, wants to play 1st team football and will give his all for whoever he plays for (as evidenced by being a hero in Rushden's fans eyes). Things haven't worked out as well as hoped with us, largely due to injury - that happens in football, and you can't blame him for that, unless the implication is that he is putting it on for an easy life (if anyone wants to take that up with Duane, please feel free ). The reality now is that he has a year left on his contract, and he and GP/the club need to work out how that will be addressed - from what I understand, Darby is desperate to get fit and try and prove his worth to GP under his new structure - you can't knock the bloke for that. Perhaps we can all learn a lesson of taking a few moments to quietly reflect before typing reactionary crap that either a) makes us look a knob, b) winds everyone else up unnecessarily or c) adds nothing to the debate - just a thought
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Post by meoleshrew2 on May 9, 2005 18:35:05 GMT 1
Darby has been a proven goal scorer in the lower divisions for years (and always seemed to score against us ). When we signed him I can only recall there being a universal view that he was a great signing - no doubt some smart arse will try to claim that "Oh no, I knew from day 1 that it wouldn't work out". Darby to my mind is a very honest pro, wants to play 1st team football and will give his all for whoever he plays for (as evidenced by being a hero in Rushden's fans eyes). Things haven't worked out as well as hoped with us, largely due to injury - that happens in football, and you can't blame him for that, unless the implication is that he is putting it on for an easy life (if anyone wants to take that up with Duane, please feel free ). The reality now is that he has a year left on his contract, and he and GP/the club need to work out how that will be addressed - from what I understand, Darby is desperate to get fit and try and prove his worth to GP under his new structure - you can't knock the bloke for that. Perhaps we can all learn a lesson of taking a few moments to quietly reflect before typing reactionary cr@p that either a) makes us look a knob, b) winds everyone else up unnecessarily or c) adds nothing to the debate - just a thought Spot on
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Post by SeanBroseley on May 9, 2005 18:37:52 GMT 1
Duane Darby's goals were vital to us getting out of the Conference - as were Rodgers' and Cramb's - and he came here at a time when the team was suffering a wobble under Jimmy Quinn. But I think R&D knew what they were doing. His body doesn't seem up to it.
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Post by telfordSHREWS on May 9, 2005 19:31:26 GMT 1
JP I You!! but believe me you are fighting a losing battle against the numpties who slag DD on here , but I ask you how many of them would say it to his face!!! I said it to his face at Kiddy away this season when he got out his car with his wife and kids. I asked him if he considered management (chic was in charge at the time ) cos you just dont cut it on the pitch. I further went on to tell him that his best performance was away at Gravesend in which he came on as sub (first game for Town) , he was hard and aggresive shot from distance and looked an evil threat to defenders.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2005 19:33:53 GMT 1
Say what to his face? I stick by everything I've said, I don't think I've been harsh at all, life's un-fair sometimes and that's the way it goes.
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Post by shrewblue on May 9, 2005 19:44:17 GMT 1
Only Tolley and edwards left from the squad that was relegated to the conference!!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 9, 2005 19:44:58 GMT 1
I will say a couple of more things on Duane Darby then I will shut up: What makes me mad is the way some people have a go at him or any player who is injured. Duane Darby is not your Darren Anderton/Steve Mcmanaman or even Brian McClair as he used to be..."as long as I get me dosh I dont give a toss if I play or not"...Duane Darby wants to play and for us. Personally I dont think he will again and neither do I think he fits GP's style of player. If it was upto me I would have a word in his shell like and offer him a deal outta here. I don;t think people are saying he is deliberately injured they are saying he is not fit enough, and his body isn't up to it, from what we see I am sure he is a lovely guy who just wants to play for Shrewsbury. Well they are two things I have in common with Duane Darby only I have to pay 12 quid and I don't even get a bench to sit on...
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Post by wiganshrew2 on May 9, 2005 19:46:07 GMT 1
It seems to happen a lot- a player who has done really well for one Club is signed up by another, and isn't so impressive.
D.D. scored 48 goals for R&D between 2001 and 2003. It was Brian Talbot who treated him badly, apparently.
If he hadn't scored the equaliser for us at Stoke, it wouldn't have gone to penalties at all- the Shots would have won outright.
We're going to have different opinions about players, it's inevitable. But I can't dissmiss people. I want to look at the positives.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 9, 2005 19:51:55 GMT 1
I just think it is funny why some people defend certain players and slate others, and vice versa
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Post by john on May 9, 2005 19:54:38 GMT 1
I just think it is funny why some people defend certain players and slate others, and vice versa pointing the figure at me David? I defended Ryan Lowe for 4 and 3/4 years and then I snapped ;D I can defend Sam Aiston, but I dont think he is the left winger we require
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 9, 2005 20:00:30 GMT 1
I defended Lowe but am low in faith for Darby You lost faith in Lowe and yet defend Darby I gues that makes us even Except Lowe is getting rave reviews for Chester and Darby is still injured
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Post by john on May 9, 2005 20:09:19 GMT 1
Lowe is getting rave reviews as he can kick with two feet
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Post by Guest on May 9, 2005 20:11:09 GMT 1
Darby is, at best, a Conference quality striker being paid League1 wages on the books of a League2 club.
Nothing personal, but for the sake of STFC as a whole the sooner we get rid of him the better as we can have two very good players in the squad in his place once his wages are freed up.
I'll wish him well when he goes but he's serving us no purpose by staying and is very unlikely to do so next season either.
Whether he's a nice bloke etc isn't really relevant, the best interests of the club have to come first.
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Post by wiganshrew2 on May 9, 2005 20:26:48 GMT 1
As I said before- many players are impressive for one Club and don't do anything for the next. Or Vice-versa- like Ryan Lowe who was inconsistent for us, but is doing great for Chester. I don't know why- and who knows? It could be confidence- the club couild be right for them, or not- or for want of a better word "team dynamics". The style of play and the "dynamics" and the rapport and understanding that can exist between certain players. This can compensate for a weak point, maybe. Strikers seem to thrive when they get the right strike partnership or good service, I suppose. I don't make a habit of slagging people off on a grand scale and keeping it up. I did once get annoyed with Ryan for ducking out of a tackle- but I wasn't there and was going from a Radio Shropshire commentary. Next week, if they do something good- then I'll acknowledge that I don't hold "grudges!" We've all had our favourites, it's all part of being a supporter. But injuries? Nobody wants them, surely? Money? I may be wrong but surely we'd have had a lot less if we'd still been in the Conference? I'm not arguing- I'm not taking sides. I'm just posing a few questions. I'm used to looking at both sides of arguements!! Unless players are completely bone-idle and incompetent, I tend to try to look at positives rather than negatives.
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Post by Guest on May 9, 2005 20:29:40 GMT 1
If you look at Darby's goal scoring record you have to go back a good many seasons to find his last decent return over an entire season in the football league.
Probably the season where Rushden won this league which is (off the top of my head) maybe four seasons ago?
He's (unfortunately) well past his sell by date as a league player.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on May 9, 2005 20:36:37 GMT 1
Personally I hope he gets fit and scores 20 next season, he's more likely to than Langmead.
However, the report on his progress in Rachels article in saturdays programme was very encouraging and i wonder whether he will ever be fit enough to play again for the first team.
Anyway, he's our player for another season so all the best to him.
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Post by essofsteel on May 9, 2005 20:47:39 GMT 1
Derby is past it. Smith is great. Lowe was rubbish!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2005 21:32:37 GMT 1
I've posted this in many a Duane Darby debate, but look at Duane's record for proof that he is under no circumstances the answer to our problems up front. He scored once (with his hand from 1 yard out) in his 17 appearance this season. At the end of last year in non-league, he had a purple patch, however, before that he scored once in his first 10 games. When was the last time he managed 15 Football League goals in a season? 1997/1998. I'll be happy to have him here next year with Langmead and Adaggio but we need a fresh proven goalscorer to line up alongside them.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on May 9, 2005 21:52:06 GMT 1
I've posted this in many a Duane Darby debate, but look at Duane's record for proof that he is under no circumstances the answer to our problems up front. He scored once (with his hand from 1 yard out) in his 17 appearance this season. At the end of last year in non-league, he had a purple patch, however, before that he scored once in his first 10 games. When was the last time he managed 15 Football League goals in a season? 1997/1998. I'll be happy to have him here next year with Langmead and Adaggio but we need a fresh proven goalscorer to line up alongside them. Your right saying its time for Darbs to move on, he needs to make a fresh start some where else, it went wrong here for him with Quinn messing around and injuries, could he play in GP's system possibly, he hasn't had a chance to show GP really. Is he happy sitting on the bench etc, gawd no, I'm sure he will find a club as soon as he can he isn't getting any younger, and still could get himself a couple of more years work for another club.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 9, 2005 21:52:31 GMT 1
and I will never boo him as long as he wears blue and amber
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Post by DDAS 5 on May 10, 2005 11:23:11 GMT 1
Top Post TBH All any of the players can ask of us is our support whilst wearing the mighty Blue and Amber!!!
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Post by Chaz nli on May 10, 2005 12:10:21 GMT 1
Interesting thread - I guess having different opinions about certain players is something that makes the football world go around and will never stop. What I dislike is when the criticism gets a bit too personal and people just forget that its a human footballer they are talking about ,not a criminal. Obviously by meeting the guy, JP has realised that Darby is a good guy, and although criticism comes with the territory, he does not deserve the personal insults that sometimes pop up on here. Maybe I will put up a vote for the most unpopular player on the B&A messageboard but Darby fans should not feel alone-- you could easily substitute the names of Tolley, Aiston or Lowe. And all any them ever did was have a few poor games of football
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Post by stockportershrew on May 10, 2005 13:06:14 GMT 1
[I'll be happy to have him here next year with Langmead and Adaggio but we need a fresh proven goalscorer to line up alongside them. [/quote]
I would have thought we might need to bring in a couple of strikers - Adaggio is a complete unknown quantity and from the limited amount I've seen of kelvin he simply doesn't get into goalscoring positions. I can't see him getting near double figures but I'd be happy to be proved wrong (he does of course have other qualities). We've got to hope that our midfield can contribute a bit more as well. Smith might but then can he stay fit -a big ask.
Mind you I haven't seen us score since last august!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2005 13:10:14 GMT 1
Interesting thread - I guess having different opinions about certain players is something that makes the football world go around and will never stop. What I dislike is when the criticism gets a bit too personal and people just forget that its a human footballer they are talking about ,not a criminal. Obviously by meeting the guy, JP has realised that Darby is a good guy, and although criticism comes with the territory, he does not deserve the personal insults that sometimes pop up on here. Maybe I will put up a vote for the most unpopular player on the B&A messageboard but Darby fans should not feel alone-- you could easily substitute the names of Tolley, Aiston or Lowe. And all any them ever did was have a few poor games of football Yes, good post Chaz. However it must also be remembered that the opposite is true as well. Just because a player is a nice human being, and someone who is gutted not to be playing and really wants to give his all etc that does not qualify them as being an asset to the club. For all of you big Darby fans out there - please, just look at his record in the previous few years, see his age, look how many games he's been out of with injury recently and see where the rest of us coming from - the sooner he's off the wage bill the better it is for our club.
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Post by mike-in-cairo on May 10, 2005 13:23:04 GMT 1
why on earth would darby want to leave us?
1)he's not gonna get the same wages elsewhere. 2) he's near the end of his career so a last payday is unlikely. 3) he has a young family to feed.
the best gp can hope for is to loan him out and then we'll probably have to pick up some of the wages. gp and wadsworth are stuck with him so they have to try and get something out of him.
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Post by true shrew on May 10, 2005 13:49:22 GMT 1
why dont you all get alife get behind your players at the end of the day you can slate all you like but we arent profeesional footballers. Whilst they are at our club why dont you get behind them because one day you slag them off but the next they score the winner and you love them. e.e. sheron at cheltenham everyone slags him off he then scores and he is loved. every player that pulls on a town shirt has my respect as thy are here to do a job, represent our club and play there hearts out which darby lowe etc did/do. So get behind the team because i bet none of you are capable of playing for town.
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