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Post by john on Dec 9, 2004 16:52:22 GMT 1
At his open meeting Gary Peters made a very good point, a good piece of PR maybe but true none the less. The one consistent thing that exists at STFC is the fans. The last few years have shown how consistent we are.
Over the past year various appointments of personnel have been made at the club which have caused great concern to the clubs fans, it seems that this concern has not been misplaced, would these appointments have been made if a supporters trust was in place or could a supporters trust ask the board for the relevant people to stand down until such a time that there personal matters are dealt with.
There are there problems that have come to light lately that need bringing to all STFC fans attention, the supporters bar, why a change in shirt colour? The dialogue on these things has to change, are the reasons behind these two contentious issues financial, if so then why can’t we be told, at least we could try and help rather than confront.
Complaints have been made about catering at the club, months later there has still been no reply.
STFC is on the verge of a new era, do we continue as we are or help shape the future, we have a fan base that has a wealth of experience, who are very loyal and support the club come what may, is it not now time that these fans really did have a say, or do we carry on as we are? A supporter’s trust is a must; we call STFC our club but is it?
Thanks chaps and lady chaps
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2004 16:55:08 GMT 1
I agree 100% with all that you say JP. A supporters trust is a must.
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Post by rocketrodgers on Dec 9, 2004 16:58:29 GMT 1
Yep - nicely put Japes - I agree with ya chum  |
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Post by watfordshrew on Dec 9, 2004 16:59:16 GMT 1
Excuse the ignorance but have the club actually said that there is going to be a change in shirt colour?
By the way I think it’s vital that any organisation should listen to its customers.
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Post by john on Dec 9, 2004 17:08:43 GMT 1
Ive heard we will be back to blue and white  |
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Post by ianwhit on Dec 9, 2004 17:20:00 GMT 1
jp, your going on lots rumours and hersay by the sound of it..
raise the colours issue with the commercial group and ask them straight.
what questions have you asked, to who and by what method? think it says in the club charter that we have a week to respond, if we don't then point this out when you remind us.
as far as the bars at the new meadow has there been a catagorical no from the club? as far as i'm aware the plans have a bar in, there is a certain amount of money, if more money can be brought into help supporters facilities then this will be a possible way forward.
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Post by rob on Dec 9, 2004 18:02:41 GMT 1
The idea of a suporters trust has been rumbling on for months.
someone said that the current working groups were a step in the riught direction (which they are).
What is the Sp with the supporters trust?
Do we write off to the government and ask for an info pack???
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Dec 9, 2004 18:48:12 GMT 1
jp, your going on lots rumours and hersay by the sound of it.. raise the colours issue with the commercial group and ask them straight. what questions have you asked, to who and by what method? think it says in the club charter that we have a week to respond, if we don't then point this out when you remind us. as far as the bars at the new meadow has there been a catagorical no from the club? as far as i'm aware the plans have a bar in, there is a certain amount of money, if more money can be brought into help supporters facilities then this will be a possible way forward. This is the point Whitters, hearsay, rumours, where do they come from? why do they start? why not have a fans officail body who can have an official position within the club, the rumours were there about the chief exec, when KS was asked about this he said he was unaware of any accusations etc, perhaps a supporters trust could have asked the questions that were being asked before the appointment was made. The shirt question... surley you don't think someone has an odd dream one night and thinks its real, if there is no truth in this at all then it should be stamped on quickly, you haven't said no blue and white shirt yet have you? its all about being open, nothing wrong with that at all, its very helpful if for example the supporters bar, IF its only to be for 80 then a reason why only 80, talks to solve how the club plan to cater and profit for the hundreds of fans who like a drink before the game, even KS like's a g&T pre match drink. The days of telling fans they are the most important thing to the club and then taking decisions or planning important things without being open is causing quite alot of anger, not just amongst us keyboard warriors on this board, its common amongst a large section of STFC's fanbase. |
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Post by mattsnapper NLI on Dec 9, 2004 19:26:11 GMT 1
.......but whitters is the official mouthpiece
today someone moaned that the Bill W story shouldnt have even gone on there
If the club have something to say then its said in the in house produced programme or on the official website / sms service
everything else is rumour or hearsay
the club are having a meeting about the stadium this coming monday so all questions etc will be answered and all myths and rumours quashed
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Dec 9, 2004 19:39:40 GMT 1
I'm all for a supporters' trust to safeguard the future of the club and to save it from the fate of several of our neighbours. My worry is, what happens when Roland decides he has had enough?
However, I have no idea about how supporters obtain enough shares to have a controlling interest. One thing I have mentioned several times in the past is why are the large amounts of money raised by fans' orgainisations just handed to the club as donations? If the tens of thousands of pounds raised each year were exchanged for shares we would get towards fan ownership very quickly.
However, don't expect a club run by fans to generate any less arguements - ever been on a committee where everyone agreed or where your membership agreed with your decisions?
Didn't think so.
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Post by john on Dec 9, 2004 20:06:05 GMT 1
.......but whitters is the official mouthpiece today someone moaned that the Bill W story shouldnt have even gone on there If the club have something to say then its said in the in house produced programme or on the official website / sms service everything else is rumour or hearsay the club are having a meeting about the stadium this coming monday so all questions etc will be answered and all myths and rumours quashed Where do the rumours come from? and why? The fans have no one in a position of trust |
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Post by blueandamber on Dec 9, 2004 20:10:26 GMT 1
right on JP  |
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