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Post by Carter on Mar 23, 2005 10:11:26 GMT 1
I have been very quiet on this matter so far so as not to unleash the Hounds of Hell on myself - but I am SOOOOO glad to see him go.
Nothing against him personally, but I have always thought that we could have had a better player on the books and now it seems that Gazzer has seen the light as well. (as I always knew he would)
Inconsistent in quality, inconsistent in effort sometimes, but made even more frustrating but the occasional glimpses of quality.
Admittely he was often played out of position and scored some important goals but this was not good enought to convince me that he should be at town, if we are to step up a gear and challenge to do something to get Town back to where we would like to be.
Good luck to him, I just hope he doesn't do too well at Chester as I don't particulary like them, and unless they can get that inconsistency out of him then I dont think he/they will do particulary well.
Guaranteeed that when/if he plays against us he will have a blinder and as that will be one of the games he really tries in.
As an aside, do you think that as Chester was much closer to his home, and at a level that he could potentially play at, that maybe he did give that extra effort when we played them in order to impress to potentially get signed? Hence why the 2 games vs them were his only 2 decent games over the past 6 months??
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Post by john on Mar 23, 2005 10:17:01 GMT 1
You could be right, we could have a Robbie Savage situation here BTW everything you said....spot on
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 23, 2005 10:26:13 GMT 1
Maybe he didn't wish to leave but once we received an offer from Chester and Peters made it clear he was happy to see the transfer through he decided it was best to be at a club where he is wanted...
I doubt we'll know unless we see owt from Ryan himself...maybe his first interview for Chester may shed some light on all this, all speculation at the moment...
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 23, 2005 10:35:15 GMT 1
If we have got a fee for him then that would be amazing There are plenty of current players who will not be here next year
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Post by Mr T on Mar 23, 2005 11:08:18 GMT 1
surely there's got to be a fee if a month or so ago chester made a bit that was rejected?
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Post by Dale on Mar 23, 2005 11:26:29 GMT 1
Ryan Lowe - scores the odd quality goal, and then follows it by a string of poor performances (to put it mildly) I know one individual on here has labelled the Lowe haters 'tossers' but no Town player has ever annoyed me more than Lowe (and I include John Gayle in that lol, at least he was CONSISTENTLY cr@p!), he is a player that promises so much, yet delivers so little on a consistent basis.
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Post by Plywood on Mar 23, 2005 13:22:45 GMT 1
Ryan Lowe - scores the odd quality goal, and then follows it by a string of poor performances (to put it mildly) I know one individual on here has labelled the Lowe haters 'tossers' but no Town player has ever annoyed me more than Lowe (and I include John Gayle in that lol, at least he was CONSISTENTLY cr@p!), he is a player that promises so much, yet delivers so little on a consistent basis.
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Post by Plywood on Mar 23, 2005 13:28:45 GMT 1
Ryan Lowe - scores the odd quality goal, and then follows it by a string of poor performances (to put it mildly) I know one individual on here has labelled the Lowe haters 'tossers' but no Town player has ever annoyed me more than Lowe (and I include John Gayle in that lol, at least he was CONSISTENTLY cr@p!), he is a player that promises so much, yet delivers so little on a consistent basis. But he wouldn't be playing in League 2 if he delievered week-in, week-out Players aren't playing in the worst professional league in England for no reason. They're either there becuase they lack talent but put in 100 per cent effort. Because they're not consistent enough. Or because they have the wrong temperament to make it at a higher level. I personally would rather watch the likes of Ryan Lowe and Ian Woan down at the Meadow than "tryers" like Pete Wilding and Duane Darby. I can watch players putting all the effort in the world in on a Sunday morning. Remember this is the fourth Division we're talking about here.
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Post by timgallon on Mar 23, 2005 14:07:44 GMT 1
Funny how those who wanted Lowe replaced weeks ago were given grief, yet now that Gary has made the decsion it's all OK I don't want any STFC player to be crap because they represent my Club, but if they are there is no room for sentimentalilty, this board was wallowing in it with regards Lowe. If we want to move forward we need to offload the poorer players in the aquad and get better ones in, its how a succesful team evolves. We all knew about his inconsistencies but its clear he lost the will to fight for the cause and was thinking more about joining one of our rivals, hence the enhanced performances against Chester. Let's hope whoever fills in Lowe's boots can do a better job, and of course there is no guarentee of this, we shall wait and see.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 23, 2005 14:24:46 GMT 1
The arguments a few weeks ago were more about Lowe beeing consistently singled out despite 11 poor players in the team
I am not sure many defended his faults, but rather wondered why he was hated more than other players, who were worse than him
and why Ryan backing out of one tackle in Southend's half cost us the game
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Post by AlisonS on Mar 23, 2005 15:24:17 GMT 1
"I have been very quiet on this matter so far so as not to unleash the Hounds of Hell on myself - but I am SOOOOO glad to see him go.... "
You are so right there Chris, at least when he starts clocking up the points for one of our rivals, we will have someone to blame. Your dislike of him was almost endearing and has livened up many a Saturday afternoon.
Ryan, enigma though he could be, scored some beautiful and crucial goals...and showed that it really mattered, which is worth an awful lot compared with some of the disinterested who have pulled on a Town shirt in recent years. So from me its thanks and good luck for next season onwards.
Lets hope we can survive deadline day withour further damage, I wouldn't want to pass on the promise of a Sheron/Rodgers partnership
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Post by DavidB on Mar 23, 2005 16:45:18 GMT 1
One of the interesting things about this is that GP claims the sale of Grant and Lowe will free up funds. On the other hand, he says he is not making any move in the transfer market before the deadline. Is he about to fool us all and pounce before the 5pm deadline tomorrow?
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Post by chestered on Mar 23, 2005 16:47:06 GMT 1
I see all you salops are quick to criticise lowe, SOUR GRAPES comes into mind
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Post by aleix on Mar 23, 2005 17:02:03 GMT 1
I see all you salops are quick to criticise lowe, SOUR GRAPES comes into mind you'll be next
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Post by Mr T on Mar 23, 2005 17:10:21 GMT 1
I see all you salops are quick to criticise lowe, SOUR GRAPES comes into mind think you'll find that he's been criticised quite a bit over the last few TEXT, years
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Post by Chestered on Mar 23, 2005 17:38:33 GMT 1
Well now, i feel the only reason he didnt perform for you is because your playmakers are cr*p and he wasnt able to recieve any quality service now wait till he starts scoring for a team that i believe to be title contenders next season, your only criticising the fella not because hes cr*p but because hes realised he wants to play for a more ambitious club.
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Post by faginy on Mar 23, 2005 17:42:36 GMT 1
he was supposed to be our playmaker
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Post by rob on Mar 23, 2005 17:52:59 GMT 1
LOL indeed. When he played upfront, providing he was given a run he was fine and looked very capable. However out wide he was very inconsistant. And yes he was our playmaker I still think he's a quality player As for being jelous, had we offered him a new contract, and he was still part of Gary peters plan then I doubt very much that Ryan would have gone to Chester
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Post by Rod on Mar 23, 2005 17:57:51 GMT 1
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Post by shrewforever on Mar 23, 2005 19:04:33 GMT 1
Few comments floating around about the fact that there is no fee involved with Ryan going to Chester and that this cannot be right. My response......Ask yourselves how much would you pay for him? Good luck to him though and good luck also to those Chester fans who will be paying their hard earned to watch him play.
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Post by mattm on Mar 23, 2005 19:11:01 GMT 1
I think that one of the telling things about Lowe was that he hasn't really improved as a player since Peters took over, where as other players like Whitehead, Sedgmore, Aiston and Tolley have generally got better under Peters coaching. Lowes 26 and he's still making the same mistakes he made three years ago.
This is probably why Peters has let him go. Clearly talented, but hasn't got the commitment shown by some of the other players.
I'd be surprised if Ian Rush improves Lowe as a player, but even if he does, I don't think you can blame Peters for letting Lowe go now.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Mar 23, 2005 19:20:23 GMT 1
I think that one of the telling things about Lowe was that he hasn't really improved as a player since Peters took over, where as other players like Whitehead, Sedgmore, Aiston and Tolley have generally got better under Peters coaching. Lowes 26 and he's still making the same mistakes he made three years ago. This is probably why Peters has let him go. Clearly talented, but hasn't got the commitment shown by some of the other players. I'd be surprised if Ian Rush improves Lowe as a player, but even if he does, I don't think you can blame Peters for letting Lowe go now. Absoulutley correct, Lowe could do ok at Chester as long as he isn't expected to be a team player.
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Post by Salop_Ian on Mar 23, 2005 19:44:36 GMT 1
But he wouldn't be playing in League 2 if he delievered week-in, week-out I find this argument that we should expect players in League 2 to be inconsistent rather strange. Surely the point is that if a player is inconsistent at whatever level he plays at he lacks the quality to play at that level. There are plenty of players in League 2 who are very reliable performers at this level but if you put them in a higher division they would be inconsistent. If Ryan's head has been turned by the bright lights of Chester it is better to let him go now. From now on we need people playing for us whose future depends on Town staying in the Football League.
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