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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Feb 18, 2005 10:38:15 GMT 1
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Post by pawlo on Feb 18, 2005 10:49:05 GMT 1
Totally agree mate. Test will come though if they listen
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Post by Carter on Feb 18, 2005 10:50:38 GMT 1
In my opinion, so they bloody well should!
Remember we are their customers and probably their major source of revenue - they often seem to have fortgotton that in the past, so it's good that they are doing this but it's no more than they should be doing anyway....
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 18, 2005 11:23:57 GMT 1
Luck doesn't come into it. The board will pick and choose which questions it wants to answer.
The board is lucky to have fans like us who know that once work commences on the New Meadow that they will have to use their free time, scam some time of work in some cases when possible, to work to make the New Meadow a financial success.
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Post by ianwhit on Feb 18, 2005 11:41:02 GMT 1
Luck doesn't come into it. The board will pick and choose which questions it wants to answer. i asked the question you sent in, keith needs to clarify one thing so it'll get answered in next months. consipiracy theorist.
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Post by Carter on Feb 18, 2005 11:42:52 GMT 1
Totally agree with the above...
We are too often told by certain Directors that we are so lucky to have a Board that have put money in to keep the club going and thus we are to tug the forelock and bow to their greatness....
However let the board not forget that without the fans (customers) effort the club would have been unlikely to survive either - 4000+ in the conference, fundraising etc...
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 18, 2005 12:09:59 GMT 1
i asked the question you sent in, keith needs to clarify one thing so it'll get answered in next months. consipiracy theorist. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/1258782/images/pqnQOqOSibedLgQPAcub.png) I'm patient on that, because that information will be in the public domain in several months time - at least to anyone with a debit card and internet connection. Although, having said that money in land isn't money in the bank, and I would like to think that we're not making speculative investments in land when the footballing environment is so uncertian. Keith has talked about a fighting fund - let's have an emergency fund as the unforeseen tends to happen with alarming regularity. There's the Mark Twain assumption about property investment that is only OK to a point. The point I was making is a more general one. I'm used to asking questions of the club and not getting a reply btw Ian.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 18, 2005 12:16:54 GMT 1
Works both ways doesn't it...and at the moment its working very well and it seems to be getting better all the time... Nice to see good communication between both club and supporters...long may it continue... ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 18, 2005 12:20:45 GMT 1
some clubs have no communication
other have downright antipathy
others would like an opportunity to inflict acts of violence on their directors
we have people who we can meet, talk to, and make progress with
I think some people have forgotten just what it used to be like, how how lucky we actually are
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Post by Carter on Feb 18, 2005 12:32:02 GMT 1
I do agree it's going well at the moment but just wanted to stir things up a bit!!! ;D
I was bored!!!
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 18, 2005 12:32:23 GMT 1
No Throb, the club is talking to us because we have convinced members of the board, and I'd wager not all of the board - through our hard work - that there is something important they can tap into and, in the current situation, would be handicapping themselves in the goals they want to achieve if they didn't.
It is only because the fans are able to keep the pressure on to improve things on the one hand, but also offer something practical on the other that things will move forward.
I'm thinking here particularly of the New Meadow in this regard. That is an absolute mountain for the football club to climb. And the whole-hearted help of a large number of fans, making the sort of sacrifices of time with family et al that the directors currently make will be necessary to pull it off.
Now isn't the time to be happy slappy and start congratulating the club and ourselves because we've only just got to base camp.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 18, 2005 12:37:38 GMT 1
I really don't know where you are coming from Sean
who is getting happy slappy?
the fact is we do have a mountain ahead of us, there are huge challenges and huge opportunities
there are sacrifices to be made by all of us in terms of time, energy and money
but you seem to be totally negative about something which I think is positive. The fact is we have an opportunity to put pressure on the directors, to discuss things with them, to suggest things to them, to ask them their reasoning behind decisions
we are one of a small handful of clubs who have these opportunities and so let's take them
being negative now will only hamper this process
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Post by rob on Feb 18, 2005 13:22:21 GMT 1
Maybe he's just not getting excited by the progress that is slowly being made?
Maybe he wants to remian totally focussed on whats going on, because the moment people stop to congratulate themselves and bathe in their self glory and achievements things invariably begin to go wrong, and get missed.
Wow the board answer some questions, doesn't mean they are listening, maybe he'll get excited when the supporters bar gets built, the club shop is made bigger, he has his answers on the remainder of the land. After all this land will form an integral part of STFCs future, and its only right that something is drawn up long term.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 18, 2005 13:25:47 GMT 1
Maybe he wants to remian totally focussed on whats going on, because the moment people stop to congratulate themselves and bathe in their self glory and achievements things invariably begin to go wrong, and get missed. so that is what you are saying Ade Plimmer is doing? The way I see it we have had some very small successes, but these are a platform on which we can build something significant I don't see anyone stopping or basking in anything I just see people working harder than ever
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Feb 18, 2005 14:24:07 GMT 1
Certainly not congratulating myself. Jesus we have so much work both club and fanbase it's untrue. With the Trust the hard work starts now, and that is why we need everyones involvement. The point I was trying to make was that there arent many clubs whose directors even pay lip service to questions that we might ask. In all the sceticism we forget that. No, there are things I'm not happy with, but I am happy with the basis of structure for dealing with issues and ideas, that certainly will need continous improvement and reviewing to make sure it works. With the members of the message board there is no danger of us not having ideas to improve it ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 18, 2005 14:40:48 GMT 1
Spot on Rob. There was nothing negative in my post at all.
I'll get excited when we are a solid third division team.
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