stop rewriting history
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Post by stop rewriting history on Feb 16, 2005 20:28:15 GMT 1
i can't believe some of the crap you people say on this board!
readin through the posts on here slaggin off a manager who got us promoted! 1 year - 1 aim - ACHIEVED!!! END OF STORY!
listening to you worshipping the likes of jemson, alot of people out there didnt give cramb a chance! wat did jemson eva do 4 us??
i am still appalled from last year when hereford were in town and we cheered turner out the dug out and when we won 4-1 we showed quinn NO RESPECT!
peters is right in the fact our fans stink! they are to busy moaning and finding problems with the team!!!!
can't we just for once join together, stop the b***hing about ex staff and become fans re-known for there loyalty and commitment instead of the moaning and talk of bulls**t!
bring on kiddy...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2005 20:29:17 GMT 1
"can't we just for once join together, stop the bi!ching about ex staff " and in the same post you have a go at Jemmo ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Feb 16, 2005 20:30:37 GMT 1
wat did jemson eva do 4 us?? Scored 2 goals in the FA Cup that bought us hugh financial rewards !
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stop rewriting history
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Post by stop rewriting history on Feb 16, 2005 20:31:49 GMT 1
i only singled him out because he is over worshipped and over rated...every new player must be compared to old ones, atkins, jemson or turner
it is always about finding problems and making out like we were something great not so long ago.
i just dont see why we cant take players as they come and look to the future as a fresh start
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Post by SlimShandy on Feb 16, 2005 20:32:27 GMT 1
and for the record you spell it 'arrogant'
and 'wat' should have a h in it too
as for the tossers bit. well...
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Post by skunkie on Feb 16, 2005 20:36:09 GMT 1
Just type what you feel.but remember a fan base has many ideas i dont agree with some on the board and they heartely disagree with me,But we all must be true to the way we feel. 8-)and not close our minds to seeing a different story.
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Post by john on Feb 16, 2005 20:49:29 GMT 1
Have you actually signed up Mr SRH?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2005 21:20:16 GMT 1
If we all post crap on here then it looks like you will be made very welcome!!!!
Football is a game of opinions owd lad, and you've proven that in your criticism of everyone who doesn't agree with your view.
There's a lot of doers on this Messageboard and while opinion is split on so many subjects, the majority of us will be there on Saturday singing our hearts out.
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Feb 16, 2005 21:31:01 GMT 1
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Post by Ratcliffesghost on Feb 16, 2005 21:54:17 GMT 1
![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png) Only one person allowed to use To****s on this board ![;)](http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/winking/winking0070.gif) ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) And I am his target man
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Post by mattsnapper NLI on Feb 17, 2005 0:28:57 GMT 1
jemsons goals against everton got the money in the bank to pay for our escape out of the conference, otherwise we would be where York City are - simple as that ![???](//storage.proboards.com/1258782/images/ZEjvtQKOmLArVPumuTsh.png) Perhaps the fans showed Quinn no respect as the team's football was not awe inspiring. In my opinion Ratters, Fred, John Bond's teams played more watchable football. If I were to write a Meadow history book, Id simply put Quinn did achieve his aim of getting us promoted and that was it. Turner is a Town legend. You saying Graeme Souness shouldnt be cheered when he goes to Anfield with Newcastle..? Totally agree with the fans bit, but choose your arguments carefully !
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 17, 2005 0:36:59 GMT 1
different people have been arguing different opinions for the last few years on here
how does that make us all arrogant?
I just don;t understand
it is like you are saying B&A is one giant opinion or manifesto of belief when actually we spend all day arguing on here or most of us would not bother to read it anymore
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Post by pawlo on Feb 17, 2005 0:45:27 GMT 1
actually we spend all day arguing on here No we dont ![;)](http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/winking/winking0070.gif) ;D Have to agree with TBH. Why does slagging off the ex manager make us arrogant.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 17, 2005 0:49:05 GMT 1
each person has an opinion and puts it to paper on here
loads of people disagree
and I am yet to see a decent defence of Quinn bar what Exkeeper wrote
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Post by blueandamber on Feb 17, 2005 0:51:16 GMT 1
Personally, I think Quinn did allright. Fact: his job was to get us promoted within 2 seasons. result: pass. was the football pretty? no not all the time, we had a good couple of games. i.e hereford. and burton albion / accrington away. I respect him for having the honesty and respect to leave, letting us have a chance of staying up via a new manager. that is my personal view. anyway, that was last season, we are staying up, and we will beat kidderminster on saturday and climb to mid table. i believe. i am a believer. ![:-*](http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/love/love0051.gif)
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 17, 2005 1:07:54 GMT 1
i totally respect your opinion ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) and i also disagree with some bits ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) so who is beign arrogant, or maybe we are just footie fans?
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Post by scooter on Feb 17, 2005 1:28:47 GMT 1
I have to say that I thought Jimmy Quinn took a lot of unwarranted stick last season. The aim was always the play-offs, and we made them comfortably. After that it becomes a bit of a lottery, and WE WON ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Thanks to him for that (and don't forget his goals, we have had worse strikers at half his age ![:o](http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/scared/scared0015.gif) ) For whatever reason, he didn't make the necessary signings in the summer, and bowed out at the right time. Good luck to him in the future, I am sure he has learned a lot from the experience (like dumping Dave Cooke ? )
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Post by Pilch on Feb 17, 2005 2:56:30 GMT 1
the 5 goals in 6 games was very special at the time ao was the goal at morecambe in the league i was a big fan of quinny and i feel some of the players coaching staff let him down
ok maybe he couldnt control them
either way he took us up and if i'm right not many of us expected that pre season he jumped before he as pushed and maybe at the right time and until the last 2/3 games i think he may have done a better job than peters who knows what the future may have been ?
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Post by OldGit on Feb 17, 2005 10:42:45 GMT 1
What about this Gary Peters bloke? All he does is whinge and moan, bring back Kevin Ratcliffe I say, and lets have Chris Freestone and Jenks too
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2005 12:18:22 GMT 1
Jimmy Quinn got it right at two important times at STFC. One was the period from July – early September 2003, when he gave us some self-respect back and managed to turn a relegated club into one that was entirely more optimistic. The fact that he was able to do this was thanks partly to the cash generated by the FA Cup run and the incredible response of the Shrewsbury fans in their continued support through the turnstiles, but still Quinn's part needs to be recognised.
The second period was from the defeat down at Hereford onwards. We turned into a much more solid side from then until Stoke with a much harder attitude. How much of this was down to Quinn and how much down to the emergence of Martin O’Connor as a real leader, Darby as a goalscorer and Howie as a superman? I don’t know. But again, if we’re going to blame him for other events, we must give him credit for this part of the season.
From May 16th onwards, most decisions made by Quinn backfired. Our dire pre-season was caused by a poorly implemented tactical system, and this took away any momentum that we should have had going into our season. This cost us big-time and by the time Quinn left in October we were in a terrible state. Dire football, no goals and falling attendances.
Why did Quinn leave? Did he fall on his sword in the most honourable way possible, recognising he was not up to the task of keeping Shrewsbury Town in the Football League? No chance. If he’d been given the Board’s full backing financially and in terms of decision-making, would he have stayed on until May 2005? Almost definitely. And if he had, there is every chance he would have left the club in far worse circumstances than when he joined.
But he didn’t. And so the fact that he left in October, and that he was replaced by a very able manager, who seems very likely to keep us in the Football League, will ultimately have a massive impact on how he is viewed historically.
The success of a Leader is not just down to their achievements whilst in power, but also down the timing of their departure and the subsequent achievements of their successor.
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Post by tattooshrew on Feb 17, 2005 12:22:27 GMT 1
I too think quinn is hard done by, after all he did get us promoted and i also wasnt jemmos greatest fan but those are my opinions and i dont expect anybody else to share them. Its because we all love stfc that we have different opinions. We are passionate about the team we support like all real fans. Wouldnt life be boring if we all agreed. Personally i have always found every one to be treated with respect on here even though they have differing opinions. And surely calling people arrogent t*****s aint the best way to get people to pull together. We all have different opinions. Live with it. Floreat Salopia ![8-)](http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/innocent/innocent0009.gif)
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 17, 2005 12:51:40 GMT 1
It was a good day when Jimmy Quinn left the club.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 17, 2005 13:10:56 GMT 1
i remember us being very unlucky against rushden and the team got booed off
no wonder quinny left
the worst games i saw this season were
southend,histon,mansfield,boston,rochdale,wycombe
best game has to be us brushing bournemouth aside a week after they went to a premier club and won
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2005 13:15:34 GMT 1
i remember us being very unlucky against rushden and the team got booed off no wonder quinny left the worst games i saw this season were southend,histon,mansfield,boston,rochdale,wycombe best game has to be us brushing bournemouth aside a week after they went to a premier club and won A midweek LDV game PILCH? You must be on some strong medication. That Rushden game was the moment I realised QUinn had taken us as far as he could. The players gave it 100% but we were utterly toothless and gave away a stupid goal. The worst games were the ones after Quinn left?! No way.
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Post by stainesr on Feb 17, 2005 13:28:30 GMT 1
Re: Quinn
Look back at our pre-season fixture list and the first club we played was Peterborough.
Who is Jimmy Quinn's big mate? Barry Fry.
Which club did Jimmy go to after just looking like he couldn't be arsed for two months? Surprise, surprise, it was Peterborough.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 17, 2005 13:32:01 GMT 1
lets look on the bright side and look to the future even a chic bates team could beat kiddy ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/1258782/images/pqnQOqOSibedLgQPAcub.png)
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Post by timgallon on Feb 17, 2005 13:57:57 GMT 1
Singing Turners name was a dig at the Hereford fans to the effect that your manager is one of us!!
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Post by DDAS 5 on Feb 17, 2005 14:23:41 GMT 1
I believe JQ did the job he was brought in to do and that was get us out of the conference and for that I thank him, but in no way does he deserve the same place in our history as GT or the same level of respect.!! has nobody else noticed how well him and his mate BF are doing at the posh!!! Hopefully unless BF makes him his latest scapegoat will meet again next season and I for one know who I would prefer in charge of the town and I am confident GP will vindicate that with 2 wins over the Posh next Season.
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 17, 2005 17:22:05 GMT 1
I don't think I'm arrogant at least I hope not. But I do have my views and sometimes I come on here and find that others agree with me and sometimes they don't. That's good because it gives me another perspective on what I think. I was a Jemmo fan just because of his personality and the way it could make me laugh - and there is no doubt that financially he did us the best favour ever. As I've said before on here I would never have seen the great Zola play if it wasn't at the Meadow. I agree JQ did exactly what he was paid to do - he got us back up. I don't know what went wrong after that - perhaps he's one of these blokes who needs to be an Assistant Manager as he just doesn't have the financial accumun (? spelling) to be a manager. I would never really criticise a previous player or manager because: (a) I'm not confident enough to really know what I'm talking about and (b) Would they really care about my opinion? I only have one regret about the past: Why didn't KR find a lift before our last matches of that season - you never know what might of happened ![;)](http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/winking/winking0070.gif)
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Post by gilster on Feb 17, 2005 18:22:23 GMT 1
yeah, give Quinny some respect. His objective was to get us into the league within 2 years. He achieved this in 1. Somehow. Also he showed the courage to hand over the resign when he realised he couldn't take the club any further. Good luck to GP.
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