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Post by SlimShandy on Feb 15, 2005 13:42:24 GMT 1
This word "owd"
I NEVER heard this word until about 2 years ago someone started going on about Shropshire words and 'what about 'owd'?'
Now my brother (TBH) uses the phrase 'owd lad' like he's been using it all his life and nearly every thread on here will have a post where someone uses 'owd'. It's as if we're trying to be ther Welsh and preserving a language from a bygone age.
Can we stop being so pointlessly rural, please! Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2005 13:44:24 GMT 1
Given that you have justified my continue use of this fabulous term, can I just say that I fully agree with you 'owd lad?
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Post by theriverside on Feb 15, 2005 13:46:01 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Feb 15, 2005 13:48:11 GMT 1
sright yerno
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Post by Gerry on Feb 15, 2005 13:49:38 GMT 1
I wouldn't anger the farmers if I was you, remember what happened to Alan Partridge? ("I can feel an udder on my leg!")
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Post by blueandamber on Feb 15, 2005 13:51:58 GMT 1
And there was me thinking people only said 'owd' because they couldn't pronounce their O's properly. ;D
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Post by Bilbo on Feb 15, 2005 13:53:54 GMT 1
You leave the upper wumma's alone. They have been using that type of talk from Hanhud to the Bog Owd Lad
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2005 13:55:09 GMT 1
I wouldn't anger the farmers if I was you, remember what happened to Alan Partridge? ("I can feel an udder on my leg!") Call Cliff Thorburn now.
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Feb 15, 2005 18:33:00 GMT 1
This word "owd" I NEVER heard this word until about 2 years ago someone started going on about Shropshire words and 'what about 'owd'?' Now my brother (TBH) uses the phrase 'owd lad' like he's been using it all his life and nearly every thread on here will have a post where someone uses 'owd'. It's as if we're trying to be ther Welsh and preserving a language from a bygone age. Can we stop being so pointlessly rural, please! Thanks. No probs, mucker owd lad ;D
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Post by alecwillis on Feb 15, 2005 18:42:51 GMT 1
You munna say dunna, it inna polite You canna say wunna, 'cos that inna right
from when my Aunt Peggy was trying to convert me from Shropshire to English in the mid 1950's
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Post by True_Shrew on Feb 15, 2005 19:00:28 GMT 1
Or combine the lot to make ' El Bacoish', a very rare south shropshire dialect that is usually spoken by intoxicated locals Ow bist der den owd moner?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 15, 2005 19:12:41 GMT 1
i dinna used to sy it owd lad, i dunna know why but it has crept on my like but i wunna if ya dunna wunna me to owd lad
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Post by Salop_Ian on Feb 15, 2005 19:48:05 GMT 1
Alrigt mon.
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Feb 15, 2005 20:27:22 GMT 1
You munna say dunna, it inna polite You canna say wunna, 'cos that inna right from when my Aunt Peggy was trying to convert me from Shropshire to English in the mid 1950's Top post, sounds just like me owd lad.
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Feb 15, 2005 23:45:58 GMT 1
You munna say dunna, it inna polite You canna say wunna, 'cos that inna right from when my Aunt Peggy was trying to convert me from Shropshire to English in the mid 1950's My Mum used to say that- and it was about the same time, too. But it was so I wouldn't pick up any "common" expressions from kids at school or something. She and her sisters had all had elecution lessons and spoke toff lingo. I love dialect words- my grandmother said, "lozzicking" as in "stop lozzicking around"- ( being lazy) But Market Drayton is almost a dormitory town for Stoke-on-Trent, isn't it? I think that's "pottery" rather than Shropshire. She also said "sneeped" as in. "She was really sneeped." (a sort of mixture of offended and hurt.) I only ever remember my Mum saying "owd" once- and she was criticizing my grandfather, her father-in-law. She didn't like him, and suddenly announced, "He's a mean owd mon!" It's the only time she didn't speak like the late Queen Mother!!!!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 16, 2005 1:05:42 GMT 1
it's an owd expression from owd times owd lad
dunna wunna be controversial me old mocker, right mon
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 16, 2005 2:20:56 GMT 1
"owd" just on its own is a word I have heard used between miners of different generations in Stoke on Trent.
sneeped and lozzicking is very familar to me too.
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Post by Johntylad on Feb 16, 2005 11:35:04 GMT 1
t'inna baaaad laaaaad! live in Sheffield and as far as they're concerned its yorkshire dialect...
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Feb 16, 2005 12:14:18 GMT 1
It seems to me that there are several varieties of Shropshire accent (accent as opposed to dialect!!)
The Telford end- they seem to speak a a bit Black Country- (And sound a beet theek an' Doz-eye!)
But the ones on the Welsh border- speak with a Welsh lilt, my grandmother on my father's side spoke like that.
Let me teach you how to pronounce "St Helens" (Any R.L. fans?) Scousers look down on St Helens people and call them "Woolley Backs" And Wigan- well- I don't think a lot of Scousers have been there!!)
To pronounce "St Helens" in their accent- you say "Sint 'elens" - but- it's a slow, dozy accent- so you hang on to "Sin" for a count of almost 2- "Sin....t'elens"!!!
Scouse? I worked with posh Scousers from Woolton and Allerton. It's a slightly different accent from the "real" scousers. They do, in any case, pronounce "no" quite unlike their Lancashire neighbours-(who say "naw") they say "noe" like mid-landers and southerners do.
They DO say "la"- but not "wack"- that's just a myth. They tend to run words together, and say "Yews lot"- (you lot!)
They often replace the last consonant of a word with a "h", which comes from the back of the throat. It's not "What?"- it's "whahhhh?" (only a bit gutteral.)
They say thinks like "Shurrup, yew lot or I'll barra yews!" (Be quiet or I will inflict corporal punishment on you.)
Wigan- they pronounce it "Wigon". I often wonder if they came up from other places like Cornwall- or even the mining area around what is now Telford? Because they speak a mixture of Northern and Southern - they say "Sit thee deown" (It's hard to try and put it in print!) They do say "owd", too- but it's pronounced "eowd" !!!
Billinge, where we live has a dialect of it's own. There's an old man in the village who's actually recorded some dialect poetry.
This is an example. I have a lot of difficulty understanding it, although I live here-
He's on about people shooting pheasants, from the pheasants point of view-
" Thur wur two chaps wee-u gun, ah thowt ney worra-have ah dun. Ah wur eht on mi feet, un wi cawn't run un't neet..."
Any offers to remind me of some Shropshire dialect words I might of forgotten, would be welcome!! I remember "djed" for "dead"!!
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Post by SlimShandy on Feb 16, 2005 13:41:38 GMT 1
it's an owd expression from owd times owd lad dunna wunna be controversial me old mocker, right mon You weren't even born there! And nobody at school used 'owd'. So where'd you get it from? I reckon it's the bad influence of blue-and-amberites
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 16, 2005 13:44:43 GMT 1
I used 'mon' a few times, and 'mocker'!
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Post by SlimShandy on Feb 16, 2005 14:42:36 GMT 1
When?
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Post by faginy on Feb 16, 2005 14:48:38 GMT 1
do you expect him to remember times and dates?
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Feb 16, 2005 14:53:20 GMT 1
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Post by Blue_is_the_colour on Feb 16, 2005 15:12:47 GMT 1
My uncles got some right old Salop sayings ,....
Jollop - anything you drink from coffee/beer/medicine
Lollicker - mouth
"get some of that jollop down yer lollicker
Sprawled over - fell over
Coni-wessant - crooked/wonkey
"that pictures conni wessant
"hes walking conni wessant"
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