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Post by Cynical Shew on Feb 12, 2005 11:37:52 GMT 1
Flicking through a book of former players for "der s**te" (Liverpool FC), I was struck by the physiques of many players of even relatively recent vintage, in how slim some looked. Skinny even, compared to today's players.
80s players such as Gary Ablett and Alan Hansen in particular stood out. Now, in the world away from football they were a perfectly normal shape and size for aerobically fit young men. These two were playing in championship winning sides fifteen years ago yet today one never sees (for example) an 11 stone-odd six footer. Why?
OK, training and fitness regimes may be much more scientific these days, but anyone with a slim build knows there is little point in trying to bulk up if one is not muscular to start with, and all round fitness is more important.
Leon Osman has attracted some attention as a rare example of a 'slight' footballer. Indeed, on the pitch he looks slightly weedy yet compared to the average bloke he is normally built and incredibly fit.
Are coaches/scouts ignoring footballing talent that couldn't double as a flanker or wing three-quarter. I remember from school, that being small for ones age means you must be that much more skilful (and then some) to be considered by the teachers for selection. Is this true in the football world at large?
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Post by siabod on Feb 12, 2005 11:52:02 GMT 1
Jon Stead, Peter Crouch ?
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Post by jamo on Feb 12, 2005 12:15:35 GMT 1
I see Enoch has found another computer to contaminate.
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Post by rob on Feb 12, 2005 12:19:17 GMT 1
Sam Aiston
Pete Wilding
Chris Murphy
colin cram, all of them are either very short or rather lanky and thin
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Feb 12, 2005 12:33:01 GMT 1
I fear the coward has a punch line to his original post and will be back tonight to deliver it
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Feb 12, 2005 13:15:16 GMT 1
Patrick Viera Marion spindle legs Melchiot Steve McManaman ex villa keeper damned if I can remember his name
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Post by rob on Feb 12, 2005 13:18:21 GMT 1
enkleman?
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Post by faginy on Feb 12, 2005 13:19:49 GMT 1
melchiot is built like a horse!
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Post by pawlo on Feb 12, 2005 13:21:53 GMT 1
melchiot is built like a horse! Suprised you noticed something like that
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Feb 12, 2005 13:27:17 GMT 1
Thats the chap, special qualities that lad has no doubt, loves to keep the best for the TV
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Feb 12, 2005 13:32:02 GMT 1
ex villa keeper damned if I can remember his name Blackburn Rovers now
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Post by Cynical Shew on Feb 12, 2005 18:44:08 GMT 1
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Feb 12, 2005 18:47:21 GMT 1
And your reaction to our win today is
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Feb 12, 2005 18:49:31 GMT 1
I fear the coward has a punch line to his original post and will be back tonight to deliver it Notthing clever at all. I'm just wondering why the slim half of the male population is not represented as pro-footballers?
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Post by dachshund on Feb 12, 2005 18:54:34 GMT 1
Djimi Traore is built like a plastic sh!thouse - the wind would knock him over
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Feb 12, 2005 19:00:40 GMT 1
And your reaction to our win today is He is clearly not interested in Shrewsbury Town Football Club. Just comes on here to put his twisted ideas over. A very sad git. For the record Lou I am delighted
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Feb 12, 2005 19:54:22 GMT 1
Cynical seems to forget that Arthur Rowley played for the team he (allegedly) supports, there's no one of Arthur's bulk around now.
If we are looking at Liverpool, Hansen played with the fat Dane whose name I've forgotten and his predessors in the Liverpool defence included Ron Yeats, Larry LLoyd and Tommy (the flying pig) Lawrence.
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Feb 12, 2005 20:02:25 GMT 1
Cynical seems to forget that Arthur Rowley played for the team he (allegedly) supports, there's no one of Arthur's bulk around now. If we are looking at Liverpool, Hansen played with the fat Dane whose name I've forgotten and his predessors in the Liverpool defence included Ron Yeats, Larry LLoyd and Tommy (the flying pig) Lawrence. 'Fat' players are generally bigger built men who are slightly overweight. Standards of fitness have improved over the years so they are less noticable and able to compete. If a Hansen comes along today is he 'bulked-up' at the gym (difficult with a physique such as that I reckon), or are slim players just cast-off as a bad lot?
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Post by jamojunior on Feb 12, 2005 20:02:25 GMT 1
I think we should pay cynical no heed.
In a perverse sort of way when he first arrived on the scene i actually enjoyed it a little. I totally disagreed with what he had to say but it was interesting to see the effect he had.
However it's now clear that he is very much a "one trick pony" and has absolutely nothing to add to any debate on here.
just ignore the spoon and he will move on elsewhere.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Feb 12, 2005 20:22:57 GMT 1
But aren't we waiting for him to make a ludicrous connection between 'bulked-up' and his bete noir? (pun intended)
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Post by rob on Feb 12, 2005 21:06:46 GMT 1
kanu,looks like he has an eating disorder.
Kanoute also looks pretty thin
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Post by CuyahogaBlue on Feb 12, 2005 22:26:12 GMT 1
But aren't we waiting for him to make a ludicrous connection between 'bulked-up' and his bete noir? (pun intended) That's what I've been waiting for Finger on the ZAP button.
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Feb 14, 2005 21:06:58 GMT 1
But aren't we waiting for him to make a ludicrous connection between 'bulked-up' and his bete noir? (pun intended) Why do you people always drag race into everything?
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Feb 14, 2005 21:11:04 GMT 1
kanu,looks like he has an eating disorder. Kanoute also looks pretty thin I wouldn't want to see you or your mates or family if you think that! ****ing hell! This is a serious matter for debate. There was a feature on Leon Osman in one of the weekend papers a while back, which centred on the fact that he is one of a dissapearing breed. Just look at the *size* of, say, Frank Lampard. Your mates playing the the Squirrel league don't all look like that, even allowing for the exponential differences in fitness.
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