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Post by meoleshrew2 on Feb 11, 2005 23:29:19 GMT 1
i am caught on this one, and to some extent i agree we do need more noise and support from the fans. but this is about the third time he has raised the issue, ok once twice not sure third time what the issue. i think most fans have got the message, just wonder at times if he is deflecting attention. Last match at home we win 4-1 I have the booing recorded on my phone, if anyone wants to hear it.
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Post by rob on Feb 11, 2005 23:31:39 GMT 1
really???
maybe you should move away from the wakeman stand??? centre stand?
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Feb 11, 2005 23:39:19 GMT 1
fix me 4 seats on the riverside please!!!!!!!!! New Meadow hurry up
Rob GP hears this crap, we need to move the dugouts too ;D
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Post by rob on Feb 11, 2005 23:41:10 GMT 1
Put them at the away end
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Feb 11, 2005 23:44:22 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2005 0:43:53 GMT 1
Bury Tuesday night.
500 STFC fans provided with a crap game but with some decent acoustics free of moaners (well apart from a fat moustached knobend) created a great atmosphere.
Personally, I think we need to sit behind the goal at the New Meadow.
It works at Spotland and it worked at Gigg Lane.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2005 5:38:29 GMT 1
Quite a few clubs seem to have their most vociferous support housed behind a goal. Why is that so because personally I don't much like the view from behind a set of goalposts.
People should always get behind the team whilst they are out there on the pitch. If anything needs saying it should really be left until the final whistle. I can't believe there were people booing on Saturday, what are they on?!
It would be nice if all the moaners stayed away but if that was the case then there would only be 1,000 in the ground and the club would be bankrupt pretty quickly.
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Post by mattsnapper2 on Feb 12, 2005 6:15:58 GMT 1
I agree Matt, arent sunderland supporters wonderfull?! Since things began to go wrong they've gone from 48,000 a week now down to an average of 27000 a week. Has there been a famine? Maybe a bomb dropped on sunderland? Because it looks like they've lost 20,000 fans.... Oh and West Ham, those loveable cockneys who boo the team and chant for their managers head reguardless of the score and the result... As for Stoke, very tense occassion, Aldershot had nothing to lose, we on the other hand had everything to lose, oh and we were spread out over 2/3rds of the ground as opposed to being predominantly based in one stand behind the goal.... Sunderland fans still give 100% when the team is in action - remember we had 8000 fans when playing Everton and Chelsea, we had 15000 when we went to Stoke, we are back down to 4000 - 27000 is still a lot from when we used to go to Roker Park and face the likes of Gordon Armstrong West Ham let in a goal to Leeds in the last minute - their fans still give their all and try and help the team rather then people leave 10 mins before the end at the meadow - what they do after is another kettle of fish - during 90 mins they support the team Your maths facts are correct AND you shoot yourself in the foot with my argument - !!! Stoke was tense eh..??! well that tenseness was relayed onto the pitch if you have 100% backing of the fans, you will try overhead kicks, shots from 35 yards anything.. some of the players are sh!t scared of making mistakes for the ridicule they will get - its human nature - ok they are professionals but it certainly helps - which is why Gary is harping on fans are supporters - some town fans dont support the team in the same way as other clubs - thats my point CROWD OF 4000 500 away fans 1200 Shrewsbury Town FANS - support the team, give encouragement 2300 are Shrewsbury Town SPECTATORS - expect to be entertained, otherwise moan and leave early
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Post by jamo on Feb 12, 2005 9:58:54 GMT 1
2,300 are spectators ? Sorry disagree, that implies that they only turn up at the occasional match whereas in reality, they are at all the games.
Supporters who stand on the Riverside have no right to assume that they are the only fans who consisitantly get behind the team. They arn't.
There are moaners in every section of the ground. Don't forget the fact that for a decade we have been subjected to dire football (with the odd exception) and people are approaching the games these days with almost a sense of wariness. This will take time to reverse.
Gp is right to point it out but could be guilty of over doing it a bit if he continues in this manner. Its up to him and his team to serve up the football that encourages crowd participation.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 12, 2005 10:23:51 GMT 1
I think at the New Meadow we need to get the vocal support behind one of the goals. I think its best to have an 'end' behind the goal because then the supporters who wish to sing etc. and grouped together (just as they are away from home) moreso than on a side stand. I think those who now sit at the Meadow who want to sing can't...as most in that area of the ground dont...that'll change at the New Meadow...
To be honest, and I dont understand why folk think otherwise, we are no different to EVERY club in the land...all clubs have their moaners, all have those who don't cheer and sing etc...
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Feb 12, 2005 11:03:17 GMT 1
2,300 Supporters who stand on the Riverside have no right to assume that they are the only fans who consisitantly get behind the team. They arn't. There are moaners in every section of the ground. Don't forget the fact that for a decade we have been subjected to dire football (with the odd exception) and people are approaching the games these days with almost a sense of wariness. This will take time to reverse. quote] The concentrated noise comes from the Riverside, noise is what GP wants. This decade rubbish is harming the present set of players, if we get relelgated, I would be first on here to ask for a complete board change at GM let alone players etc, what choice do we have, how does booing when we are winning work, it takes time to sort out the problems that our club has, the problems start off the pitch, in many areas, it feeds through, we need a professional outfit, when the trust gets involved this hopefully will become the case, ie the free coaches, supporters bar, this has an effect on matchdays,. The day of the meeting in the telepost about the supporters bar, the atmos at the GM was like a morgue, so the decade stuff is more than what we have or haven't been served up on the pitch, now who has been in charge for about 10 years?
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Post by rob on Feb 12, 2005 12:15:29 GMT 1
difference is Matt 15000 for one game, we havent built a ground to accomadate those 15000 fans.
Surely if 20000 fans naff off that is a sign of apathy amongst the supporters base???
I'm pretty sure Peter Reid (towards the end of his reign) and Harry Bassat didnt recieve all to great receptions.
Reguardless of what you say, its clear to here from West Ham fans, they they have no confidence in the chairman, manager or many of the players, couldnt you hear then chanting for the managers head against Derby???
I wouldnt compare Stoke to Sunderland/west ham, because for us it represented a must win game, if we won, we'd be alright, if we lots our furture looked very bleak.
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Feb 12, 2005 14:49:01 GMT 1
Agree to a certain extent. I did notice against orient that we where 4 nil up and we should all have been on top of the world, really giving the lads a cheer or two, but loads of people where leaving. However, did the club say not long ago that a drum would not be let in? Drums are now allowed in - a special area is set aside on the Riverside halfway between there and the Station End. We have had no response to the Supporters Band idea. If anyone has a drum and would like to bang it, please get drop us a PM.
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Post by dachshund on Feb 12, 2005 15:19:10 GMT 1
i utterly agree with gary - a team with a good fan base - west ham, sunderland, celtic etc.. their fans go crazy regardless of the result Simply not true - I've been to dozens of Sunderland games, season ticket holders in the family, and the atmosphere is inconsistent, just like at the meadow. They can whinge with the best of em, leave early with the best of em, and stop coming just like anyone else. Look what happened to attendances at both North-East clubs at the turn of the nineties when on the pitch performances declined - these ultra loyal fans stopped going, for the most part. Football fans are more or less the same wherever you go. EDIT - you ever wish you'd read a whole thread before replying?
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