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Post by totallytown on Feb 8, 2005 14:40:48 GMT 1
The bury coach shambles surely serves as a timely reminder why, come hell or high water, as many of us as possible need to get to the shrewsTrust meeting on Wednesday.
The coach thing is far more likely to be cXck up than conspiracy, but no less fustrating for that. And its not the first or last instance is it? (e.g. speaking as one of many who didn't get their season ticket before the season started).
I'm definitely not knocking the club or its hard pressed staff. I simply think we have to be realistic and take better control of our own affairs. We can come up with a million arguments as to why fans are the most important part of the club. But, like it or not, things aren't always treated that way. Sometimes deliberately, sometimes accidently and sometimes simply because there are a myriad other priorities to attend to.
The Supporters Trust concept is a practical way to address that. It isn't a panacea and it wont create miracles. But it is a proven formula for dragging fan affairs back up the agenda, week-in, week-out. Ideally in a spirit of co-operation, but if necessary also with a bit of punch. And, over a longer period, it could build into much much more.
We'd be mad not to grab it with both hands. I know that I'm preaching almost entirely to the converted on this site. But if there are a few like me, then good intentions sometimes don't convert into a bum on a seat at a meeting. It has stiffened my resolve to go and I hope it does the same for others.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2005 14:44:19 GMT 1
The board have done an excellent job in terms of stabilising the football club's finances and working for the New Meadow.
However there are many issues that I believe we can work with them to improve and develop on - marketing, PR etc etc
A supporters' trust is a wonderful opportunity for the club to utilise what should be its biggest asset - the fans.
Hope to see you all there tomorrow night, work permitting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2005 14:45:32 GMT 1
The way I see it, the club could have said a week or so ago (when this deal was about to be nailed):
"Right Trust, we need as many people there as possible to try and limit our costs - we'll help financially, what can you do"
The Trust could then have worked with Chris to book coaches, seek sponsorship from businesses to pay for this and tried to get a real good feel factor about going to Bury tonight - how about "Can we get 1,000 to Bury?" campaign.
Just a thought.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 8, 2005 15:18:48 GMT 1
With regards to the Bury coaches, can I ask what the club did actually have in mind then...I'm a tad unsure? What has gone wrong here?
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Post by mattsnapper2 on Feb 8, 2005 15:22:20 GMT 1
whats gone wrong..?
lack of communication, weak management, lack of innovation
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Post by Pilch on Feb 8, 2005 15:30:18 GMT 1
my guess is that todays coach bill goes straight to stfc which means someone doesnt get any cut today and is not very happy or helpful
maybe stfc should try opening the yellow pages and ringing around a few coach companies, it cant be that hard surely ?
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Post by mattsnapper2 on Feb 8, 2005 15:36:35 GMT 1
STFC will lose money over this game (i) pay Bury what is owed and not get much support leaving Gary Peters' men possibly struggling or (ii) instead of pay Bury, use the money to reward the faithful few, to gain extra support for an important relegation away tie and give the team a confidence boost now which shall it be..!?
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Post by Grinfish nli on Feb 8, 2005 15:45:22 GMT 1
Both, not like STFC to go in only one direction at a time, they prefer trying to go in all of them at once, thus getting nowhere!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 8, 2005 16:12:35 GMT 1
whats gone wrong..? lack of communication, weak management, lack of innovation Yeah, I understand that...but what was offered to supporters and what was meant to be offered to supporters?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 8, 2005 16:16:52 GMT 1
free coach travel and free coach travel
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Post by mattsnapper2 on Feb 8, 2005 16:19:57 GMT 1
a message was relayed explaining the logistics of the Bury trial, won by Mr Poole - we pay Bury if poor crowd turns up for compensation
Gary wants lots of support thus free coach travel
no one is taking the bull by the horns at the club
poor programme sales - they go to kevin davies, not our fault coaches - chris smith, we dont book them M+G make the kits, not us, sorry if they are late the non-supporters bar was down to alaska doing the footprint the pies are cold - well blame the catering company
blah blah blah...
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 8, 2005 16:20:15 GMT 1
I hope this isn't going to hijack the meeting tomorrow. I don't want one of the directors getting up and putting his arm round Ade Plimmer whilst giving a blow by blow account of what happened and why it happened.
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Post by mattsnapper2 on Feb 8, 2005 16:25:12 GMT 1
but on the otherhand, its a prime example of why the faithful few are still faithful but an angry, cheated mob at the same time
I for one dont have the money so havent got the license to say I can do better, but its time people are made accountable for running the club in terms of enterprise and ventures new AND the new stadium
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Post by Pilch on Feb 8, 2005 16:31:47 GMT 1
hands up if you normally go on the bus and are paying to go on the bus to bury dont all shout at once
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Post by guest on Feb 8, 2005 16:38:20 GMT 1
my guess is that todays coach bill goes straight to stfc which means someone doesnt get any cut today and is not very happy or helpful I'm not exactly sure what you are implying by that, but without the full facts I don't think you should cast judgement on people
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Post by Pilch on Feb 8, 2005 16:52:08 GMT 1
I'm not exactly sure what you are implying by that, but without the full facts I don't think you should cast judgement on people oops did i express an opinion in my own name damn i forgot to hide behind a guest name err if you have the full facts maybe you should reveal them, if you don't then don't presume i don't apart from that i stand by my original post
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