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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 24, 2005 23:44:30 GMT 1
As I was saying.... If anyone has any topics for discusssion that are relevant to this group, please shout up It will be interesting to see how far the home strip selection process has got. I think from what people have been saying it would be a great touch to have something like "Gay Meadow 1910-2006" would be appropriate. These thoughts may also effect the choice of strip - although never fear someone has had the foresight to design a blue and amber quartered shirt. I will also be interested to know how far the talks with Nike got before they failed, and whether this means that a Nike away strip is out of the question. Also, a few weeks ago, I was concerned to see comments about shirt sponsors not being contacted about renewal - in fact not being contacted full-stop. Without going into the whys and wherefors of the individual case I would like to see the club's information management to be slicker than this case suggests it is. Fire away.
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Post by Shrews and Royals on Jan 24, 2005 23:54:08 GMT 1
A retro badging and Gay Meadow dates desn't have to be limited to shirts.
Plenty of opportunity for some limited edition pieces eg Scarves, tops etc. Other ltd editions eg Wade, Cornish Ware. Some higher end pieces to complement the lower end ones. A very special one could be to get Sally Tuffin (ex Morcroft now Dennis China Works). To do a very special commemorative tube lined loggerheads/crest design on a roundal/vase. Not cheap but I'd buy a couple!
Last Day Cover for the final day. Tallylyn did it when it originally shut.
Raffle with a huge prize linked to a key role in the final game at The Meadow. Assuming it was a friendly, it could be a squad place.
I'll think a bit more later!
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Post by Ratcliffesghost on Jan 25, 2005 0:04:55 GMT 1
A swear box in the Dun Cow for the Arsenal v Man Utd game could bring in 100 quid, 200 if I get to sit next to you know who
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Post by rob on Jan 25, 2005 0:05:50 GMT 1
some decent enamel pin badges wouldnt go amiss, i could put forward a couple of companies i've been hasseling in contact with (You wouldnt believe how much i know about these fecking things now )
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Post by rob on Jan 25, 2005 0:10:20 GMT 1
More STFC Pride of walesShropshire stuff too
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 25, 2005 23:03:57 GMT 1
Commemorative pottery hmmmmmmmm.
That's a good one. I know someone who does tile friezes and the like. The last one she did was of the Stiperstones.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 28, 2005 19:25:16 GMT 1
I'd also like to know how the Nike discussions went, very interested to hear whether they have looked to approach any other kit manufacturers.
I’d like to know whether they do believe a change to a leading sports manufacturer would improve sales, revenue and the quality of products (as it has at those clubs I contacted and who replied). If not, why. If so, what are they doing in order to move to a leading sports manufacturer?
I put the following question on the ShrewsWeb message board but as yet hasn’t been answered, could you please ask at the meeting…
It mentions on ShrewsWeb that the design\winning supporters design of the new home kit will be submitted to the club and kit manufacturers (plural) to see which designs are viable. How will this work? Is it a case that the club will use the kit manufacturer that is able to produce the kit closest to the winning design? Which kit manufacturers will the club contact and the kit be submitted to?
Is the club honestly looking to more than one manufacturer or will we be going with MG Sportswear again?
Thanks...
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 29, 2005 2:46:05 GMT 1
Well the kit designs will now be in the programme - see shrewsweb. Ian must have had a 'mare with this programme - no wonder he hasn't been posting much on the board this week.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 29, 2005 18:57:51 GMT 1
Correction its going to be in the Leyton programme. Lets hope MG Sportswear will be able to replicate the short-listed designs. Hopefully the delay in getting the vote started is justified by knowing that the kits we're voting on will not provide any problems for the manufacturer. If not, then it will also be interesting to see how many will be for sale on the launch date. Anyway. I'll be compiling the agenda this weekend.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 30, 2005 20:26:04 GMT 1
If we are going with MG Sportswear again, can you ask the club why they mentioned on the clubs website more than one company would be contacted with regards to manufacturing the kit?
Also, can you please discuss with the group whether its possible for us to arrange for sports brands to come and meet the club to discuss the clubs official kit supplier. Seems clear the club can't (or won't) do this...maybe we could get the likes of Nike, Admiral etc to present their programs to the commercial group...we could then look to which is more beneficial for the club?
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 30, 2005 23:50:33 GMT 1
What a good idea David - and straight out of the blue as well.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 31, 2005 9:42:20 GMT 1
Indeed... ;D Nah, I've been thinking this for a while our kid. Makes the whole area more transparent for us supporters I think...
I have the contact details for both Nike and Admiral, its easy to get the contact details from other manufacturers I'm sure. I guess there is no harm asking them whether they would be happy to visit Shrewsbury to attend one of the commercial groups to present and answer questions that need to be answered regarding the kit and merchandise?
Best way forward I reckon...if the club representatives on the commercial group agree of course...
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Post by DiglisShrew on Jan 31, 2005 9:58:31 GMT 1
Sean , I,ve handed Ade some correspondence which shows how NOT to treat long term (now potentially EX)sponsors which the Group might be interested to see .
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 31, 2005 12:44:20 GMT 1
Thanks for the Colin.
David - The only thought against what your suggesting is this - salesmen work to annual targets and the home top will not be due for renewal again until 2007.
However we should doggedly build the case on a commercial basis. That case is a clear one and was set out in the work you did.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 31, 2005 13:57:09 GMT 1
My understanding is that there is some contract in place with MG Sportswear, not too sure when it ends but I would that this is the last home shirt that falls into the current contract. This is something we need to find out. We have the new away shirt to be released next summer. With the release of the next away shirt coming next year then we need to start discussions with sports manufacturers ASAP for two reasons...to persuade the club that a change is required and we should look to move to a leading sports brand and to get the wheels in motion for the release of the new away shirt. If we are gonna move from MGS then at one point we'll have two kit manufacturers (unless we release home and away at the same time, sommat I think should be avoided). So, if we can look to get representatives to attend the commercial group meetings in order to provide information about what they can provide and to the questions the club has...then I think it will benefit. The club are just gonna sit tight and say sommat like 'the quality is not good', 'we will end up with too much left over stock', 'they won't bother with us cos we are a small club'...all of which no one can disprove while no one knows any better. Get the companies to come to the club and answer the clubs concerns...and lets have these discussions with supporters present... So if we want the next away top made by someone other than MGS then we have to start working towards that now...
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 31, 2005 14:46:57 GMT 1
Is the away shirt cake a big enough bite?
Of course its the other branded stuff on the back of that. Definitely still worth a go.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2005 16:04:39 GMT 1
Can you bring up the fact that there are still not programme sellars in the Narrows and that when I volunteered to do this at the Boston game (having shifted some programmes in the Crown and Seven Stars with the help of Soupie), I was told that there were already enough programme sellars.
However, last Saturday there were still not enough about, or being visible enough.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jan 31, 2005 16:22:20 GMT 1
Will be done. Already something that the club is aware of. Positioning is a more important issue for me. Two in the narrows and sales more than likely would increase.
Of course where the club's programme sellers stand is entirely outside of the gift of the fans. I'd like the club to find a way of controlling that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2005 16:36:52 GMT 1
Something TBH has mentioned is the purchase of a programme cabin type thing which is seen at other grounds.
If this could be costed and would be used at New Meadow, then it's something the supporters may be able to fund (i.e. it's a money-maker, rather than a John Keister)
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Post by SlimShandy on Feb 3, 2005 14:11:33 GMT 1
Product ideas: How much would it cost to produce and sell a 'STFC greatest players' top trumps style card game? There would be knock on sales to card collectors as well. I'd be happy to plan out/design the cards (I work with 4 graphic designers every day). How about an STFC yo yo given that we seem to be going down-up-down?-up(hopefully)
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 4, 2005 0:56:32 GMT 1
Something TBH has mentioned is the purchase of a programme cabin type thing which is seen at other grounds. If this could be costed and would be used at New Meadow, then it's something the supporters may be able to fund (i.e. it's a money-maker, rather than a John Keister) I was thinking about one of those folding kiosks that you get at big games you'd probably only need one at the entrance to the New Meadow as most people will walk past the same point If three people could serve at a time, then everyone knows when and where to go for a programme There were Wycombe fans walking around GM on Saturday stopping people and aksing to buy a programme but no-one knew where there would be a seller, and if there was one in the away end or not
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 4, 2005 17:36:47 GMT 1
I'll mention that away fan aspect with regard to a kiosk.
In the past the club have asked whether or not more people could come forward to sell the programme. And they would stilll like to hear from people who would like to do that. Go to reception on a match day.
The distribution of the programme is an agenda item for the next meeting. The could do with two people in the narrows in my opinion.
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Post by timgallon on Feb 4, 2005 18:35:57 GMT 1
For those of you who are interested here is the Agenda for the meeting:
Commercial Working Group AGENDA
Tuesday 15th February 2005 7.30pm ARTHUR ROWLEY PLAYERS BAR
GAY MEADOW – SHREWSBURY TOWN FOOTBALL CLUB
1. Apologies.
2. Minutes from last meeting
3. Commercial developments in the last quarter
4. The home kit competition
5. Alternative kit suppliers
6. Matchday and kit sponsors
7. Matchday programme
8. Club badge
9. Gay Meadow Memorablia and mementoes
10. Any other business
11. Date of next meeting.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 6, 2005 18:50:00 GMT 1
With the next home shirt what sort of collar would we like?
How does the material in the current home strip compare to previous ones?
Personally I think the material is better but I could do without the pattern across the chest. Could it be improved?
The rounded collar on the Leyton Orient top is an increasingly prevelant design and looks more comfortable than the rounded collars that we have had in the past from Patrick and MG Sportswear.
I don't know if that sort of design is beyond MG Sportwear. There is nothing like it on the MG Sportswear website.
The best collar we have had in recent years has been the v-neck on the previous home shirt, and as I recall that was changed from a round collar upion the request of the players at the pre-production stage.
Looking at the matchday programme again there is the same propensity for the collars to be off centre that also existed with Patrick.
I do not want our influence to stop at the voting stage. Attention to detail will enhance the overall effect and result in an excellent product which is comfortable to wear and looks good.
Any comments - or any other possibilities?
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Post by rob on Feb 7, 2005 2:36:58 GMT 1
Personnally prefere collars, as it covers the (sometimes) spotty neck The all white away shirt we had a season or two ago had a round neck (for reference perposes) Surely now would be the time for the club to start trumping up (parden the pun shadey ) Matt Ashtons iconic pictures of Gay meadow games, in the run up to the new era......
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Post by Blues in Crewe on Feb 7, 2005 3:05:32 GMT 1
I probably wouldnt buy a roundneck I just find it really uncomfortable to have anything too close around my neck
I have no problems with the current collar like the STFC detail on the back, but the logo started falling apart off my home shirt after only a couple of months and I would rather no pattern in the material unless it was relavent to the club
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 7, 2005 13:56:31 GMT 1
I probably wouldnt buy a roundneck I just find it really uncomfortable to have anything too close around my neck. That has been the problem with recent round-neck tops.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2005 14:16:40 GMT 1
I'm not a big fan of round-neck designs either.
On Tim's post it has 'club badge' as one of the minutes for the next meeting - what is being discussed about it?
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 7, 2005 14:42:33 GMT 1
club badge - getting it (in the various versions that remain active) registered as a trademark of the football club.
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Post by rob on Feb 7, 2005 16:27:55 GMT 1
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