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Post by Theoneandonly on Jan 3, 2005 17:42:06 GMT 1
I could understand why some people would like you never to play for us again.
**edited to avoid hassle from a few induviduals**
What a Clique!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 3, 2005 17:42:42 GMT 1
hold on Geoff
wait until we know exactly what happened
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2005 17:42:48 GMT 1
Let us down badly
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Post by jamojunior on Jan 3, 2005 17:45:34 GMT 1
you muppet. I hope you never play for us again, you are a disgrace. Have to second that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2005 17:48:07 GMT 1
you muppet. I hope you never play for us again, you are a disgrace. Grow up Geoff, you're showing your age now. I haven't seen the incident have you?
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Post by Bilbo on Jan 3, 2005 17:52:40 GMT 1
Grow up Geoff, you're showing your age now. I haven't seen the incident have you? A little harsh Phil, i'm as frustrated as Geoff. We know now that Luke only has to fart and a ref is on his back. The Question is Luke a liability when Refs are sometimes seeming to pick on him for the slightest thing?
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Post by Theoneandonly on Jan 3, 2005 17:52:58 GMT 1
What will you say when you see it and see how silly he has been?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2005 17:54:33 GMT 1
What will you say when you see it and see how silly he has been? I'll admit I was wrong if that's the case. However to want him never to platy for the club again is just purely immature. Think of the amount of things he has done for this club, the goals he has scored and the performances he has put in. I didn't see you calling for Walton to pi$$ off after the Scunny game or Moss of O'Connor after the Chester game?
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Post by Theoneandonly on Jan 3, 2005 17:56:14 GMT 1
How is it Luke Rodgers fault that they scored 2 goals? Yeovil are down to 10 men too remember. because if he hadnt been so reckless we could have kept the pressure on with the extra man and there is no way they would have scored 2 with one less man. They have scored 2 because the 10 players they have on the pitch are better then ours, with lukes energy we could have played out time with the extra man (ie swansea)
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Post by rob on Jan 3, 2005 17:58:45 GMT 1
Having listened to it from 30mins in it sounds like yeovil have battered us for most of the game.... Even with Rodgers sending off we were still only playing 10 men with a goal advantage. Yet we still managed to conced 3 goals in 15 minutes. We lost a striker and had to defend a lead, we couldnt do that. Maybe Yeovil were just too good for us. As for Luke enver playing for us again. Well I feared people would go over the top.
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Post by Theoneandonly on Jan 3, 2005 18:02:12 GMT 1
I didn't see you calling for Walton to pi$$ off after the Scunny game or Moss of O'Connor after the Chester game? O'connor- cant blame him, We would all have done the same. Moss- he had been on the recieving end of a nasty challenge and wsas understandably very annoyed... Walton- can't remember him being sent off before, so even though I was annoyed it wasn't as frustrating as todays behavior from Luke. If we were chasing the game, ok fair enough, but we were in control, Hopefully GP will fine luke X amount of wages and finally adopt the "hardman" image he came here with.
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Post by rob on Jan 3, 2005 18:05:07 GMT 1
we lost Luke yeah thats bad.
But he can't be blamed for us conceding 3 goals in 14 minutes...... AGAINST 10 men
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2005 18:05:19 GMT 1
Lets think why Yeovil had a man sent off? That's right it was Rodger's fantastic run through the centre that caused the lad to produce a professional foul
I just don't see the point in comments like 'he should never play for the team again'.
And as for the comments about Mossy being on the end of a bad challenege at Chester - Rodgers was being kicked all over the place after we'd gone 2-1 up, no difference really is there?!?
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Post by timgallon on Jan 3, 2005 18:07:32 GMT 1
One thing for sure is he wont be playing for us for a least the next three games
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jan 3, 2005 18:11:15 GMT 1
point is, if were 2-1 up with a man advantage, you don't throw it away with stupidity, even if it was a foul on him which got their man sent off.
GP has got a team working for each other it seems to me, the last thing you want is someone like Luke waging his private battles on the pitch.
Yes he's got a reputation, there fore he has to go out of his way to not give them an excuse to send him off. many other players can do it - if he had half a brain cell h e could.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2005 18:13:33 GMT 1
point is, if were 2-1 up with a man advantage, you don't throw it away with stupidity, even if it was a foul on him which got their man sent off. GP has got a team working for each other it seems to me, the last thing you want is someone like Luke waging his private battles on the pitch. Yes he's got a reputation, there fore he has to go out of his way to not give them an excuse to send him off. many other players can do it - if he had half a brain cell h e could. Fair enough points. I'm not doubting whether ornot Luke should or shouldn't have been sent off. I'm questioning the way that people have all of a sudden jumped onto his back. In the opposite way it seems that Grant has become an instant hero for two decent performances. Are we just fickle fans?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 3, 2005 18:15:20 GMT 1
are you suyggesting this is Rodger's first ever indiscretion though Phil?
We've seen this before again and again and again
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2005 18:17:14 GMT 1
Passions run high when a certain expectation of defeat away to a team as good as Yeovil suddenly seems to be turning into a potential shock win then for it to all go pear-shaped. At the end of the day that is what football is all about - incident and uncertainty.
Better than a boring 0-0?
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Post by peterjones1 on Jan 3, 2005 18:19:29 GMT 1
are you suyggesting this is Rodger's first ever indiscretion though Phil? We've seen this before again and again and again Ditto Darren Moss. Take Wayne Rooney as another example. Constantly in trouble for petulant or rash behaviour, but I wonder how many England fans will moan when he is in the side for their next fixture? Not the best example admittedly but an example never the less...
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Post by rob on Jan 3, 2005 18:20:40 GMT 1
No but he has certanly improved his behaviour....
Just a shame that one mistake, moment of madness and people instantly forget the improvement over the last season and a bit of his discipline......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2005 18:21:05 GMT 1
are you suyggesting this is Rodger's first ever indiscretion though Phil? We've seen this before again and again and again Very true, but we've also seen it with the likes of Mossy before and Sammy, not to mention Jemmo in seasons gone past.
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Post by blue 44 on Jan 3, 2005 18:28:01 GMT 1
Fair enough points. I'm not doubting whether ornot Luke should or shouldn't have been sent off. I'm questioning the way that people have all of a sudden jumped onto his back. In the opposite way it seems that Grant has become an instant hero for two decent performances. Are we just fickle fans? Excellent post! lets not forget how much Luke has done for us over the years Some of the reaction to todays events is over the top and shows Luke isnt the only one who loses his head at times
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Post by jamo on Jan 3, 2005 18:33:21 GMT 1
It's all a bit harsh to criticise anyone for expressing what are undoubtedly heartfelt emotions. People react in different ways in all manner of circumstances , that's what's happening here.
Sure we are all disappointed but then some of us have the benefit of having been around a few years and have generally experienced this type of situation before. I will readily admit to have been hot headed and opinionated in my youth therefore i understand entirely some of the points being made here.
What i would say is this. Reflect on the situation after you have digested EVERYTHING that has occurred today. We didn't expect a result at Yeovil and all our direct opponents suffered defeats. This is not a disaster for STFC.
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Post by hooverfoxat2 on Jan 3, 2005 18:36:35 GMT 1
All this fuss about Rodgers - can somebody please tell me just what positives (on a consistent basis) he has contributed to the club since August 2003/2004 during the Conference season and since August 2004 during this season. OK - the arguments for are fair regarding his pace and battling qualities but the goals for column is pretty bleak, the yellow cards and red cards outweigh his goal scoring record and the subsequent loss through bans is or should I say was sorely missed. The fact is that for the last few games we haven't had him in the side and did we miss him - I think not. To Rodgers benefit though Gary Peters and the 4th official both state that Luke was innocent of committing any foul with the 4th official stating that he will be speaking to the referee after the game to verify that fact. Doesn't alter the fact though that we may miss him for another 3 games pending an appeal. On a positive note - Peters is geling a team together that is beginning to resemble a football 'team', the whole squad oozes confidence and the work rate and ethics are commendable. Gary Peters - the best Town manager in many a year!!!!
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Post by Theoneandonly on Jan 3, 2005 18:39:54 GMT 1
If he has not done anything I will apoligize.
Simple.
But i doubt he has been sent off for 'no reason'
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Jan 3, 2005 18:40:31 GMT 1
I don't know what happened- all i had to go on was Radio Shropshire.
According to Stuart Dunne, the incident happened right in front of Peters, so he should know.
O.K- Luke has a short fuse- he gets baited.
According to the commentary, when Luke came on, the game began to go our way- it's so frustrating that he was sent off.
Often -it's that bit of aggression that gives a player that extra determination and energy- it's like that with Sam, isn't it. He's been lucky to get away with some things- I've been there when he has!!
It's not an excuse, I know. But, frustrating as it is- let's not over-react and say he shouldn't play for us again.
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Post by rob on Jan 3, 2005 18:45:21 GMT 1
Indeed Luke Rodgers has done feck all for STFC Hooverfoxat.
he's only been our leading goalscorer for 3 seasons running.
And I believe he's leading scorer thus far this season.....
Seems to me like he's been our most crucial player over the last 3 or so seasons....
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Post by Theoneandonly on Jan 3, 2005 18:46:39 GMT 1
Wasn't Cramb our top scorer last season??
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