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Post by shrewinspain on Nov 11, 2024 19:10:45 GMT 1
What is going on ? Why is b&a so quiet ? This is one of the tumultuous times I've known and yet there is barely a peep. Even if everyone had given up I'd expect a bit more noise than this.
Is it just my impression or are there any stats on posting volumes to give me some assurance that everyone has not given up ?
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Post by hectord0g137 on Nov 11, 2024 19:16:41 GMT 1
I want to be apathetic but can't be ar@ed
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Post by dewsburyshrew on Nov 11, 2024 19:26:17 GMT 1
I have been thinking this for a while. These are tumultuous times by STFC standards, and yet reading this forum you would hardly know. I don't think people don't care, they are perhaps overwhelmed by cynicism!
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Post by gobowenshrew on Nov 11, 2024 19:28:33 GMT 1
Because every thread seems to descend into predictable point scoring.
No end of good posters are MIA or don't post like they used to. Maybe there's other reasons but it seems clear to me where the issue lies
Twitter on the other hand seems fairly rife with opinion but it's not a medium I'm particularly fond of.
Oh and the general state of disillusion around the club.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 11, 2024 19:30:24 GMT 1
its the calm before the storm
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Post by shrewinspain on Nov 11, 2024 19:44:24 GMT 1
I have signed up to X and have managed to follow both Shrewsbury Town FC and Salopcast; but how do I see the B&A type chat?
Why can things not stay the same ? I much prefer this kind of message board.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Nov 11, 2024 20:07:30 GMT 1
I think a good number of members have realised this message board is controlled by the FC so prefer to communicate on certain subjects elsewhere in private, although still posting on here as well
Take from that what you want
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Post by Pilch on Nov 11, 2024 20:13:57 GMT 1
I think a good number of members have realised this message board is controlled by the FC so prefer to communicate on certain subjects elsewhere in private, although still posting on here as well Take from that what you want Wow , total bulls**t , it's never happened once and never will In fact it had happened once , the club contacted us and asked if we could remove Omar Rizas name as we were about to sign him and the cat got out and the club were worried someone else might spot it and steal him That backfired 😝 But no , let's just get it straight once and for all , it DOES NOT HAPPEN
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Post by kenwood on Nov 11, 2024 23:31:23 GMT 1
I love conspiracy theories . The FC controlling this board is one of the best yet . Oh well , maybe we should have a separate board entitled “ STFC conspiracy theories “ . Everyone can then post absolute ballocks and try to outdo each other for the swivel eyed loon accolade .
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Post by Scarecrow on Nov 11, 2024 23:52:57 GMT 1
Fans will always find channels to express their voices. This place doesn’t have a monopoly of their voice and maybe fans have just had a chance to reassess their options and are voting with their feet.
The place is dead though and that maybe says a lot. I’m still talking though, you just can’t hear me here…
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Post by Scarecrow on Nov 11, 2024 23:57:01 GMT 1
its the calm before the storm There is no storm coming on this message board. I promise you that.
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Post by pughywasfree on Nov 12, 2024 7:42:50 GMT 1
We have been having the same discussion on here after every defeat since the start of the season. It's been done to death.
We know the defence is s**t We know the midfield are extremely limited We know we are stuck with 2 s**t strikers There is nothing we can do we have not tried.
Until we get a new managers and/or owners nothing is going to change so there is nothing to discuss.
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Post by secretshrew on Nov 12, 2024 7:50:19 GMT 1
There are also different platforms for people to cast their opinions on. I don’t really ‘do’ social media for personal stuff so I prefer this platform. I also like the anonymity on here! 👀
There is an element of same old, same old. Impending sale of the club seems to have gone on and on. Searching for a manager who is good fit for the club that can take us somewhere on a small budget. Same old squad problems as previous posters have mentioned. And a tiny dusting of the same posters having the same discussions!!
I don’t look at other football boards that often but I think ours is fairly well used compared to some other clubs.
Keep on, keeping on!
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Post by Pilch on Nov 12, 2024 8:23:55 GMT 1
Funny how the most bitter ones are those who have campaigned for 6 years for us to bring hurst back I went against the chairman and said he was s**te, the worst Manager in the EFL I said , don't bring him back Even the chairman stepped forward an said he'd got t wrong with Hurst But hey , he's gone , move on to the next target as usual , lets attack B&A again, its always good for an argument 💤
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Post by hectord0g137 on Nov 12, 2024 9:09:24 GMT 1
I didn't want Hurst. And worried about life after Roland. I do think people on here need to smell the coffee. The Welsh thing isn't going to happen and frankly I for one don't want my club taken over by self publicists
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Post by ProudSalopian on Nov 12, 2024 10:39:28 GMT 1
There's probably a few different factors
The apathy on matchday has extended to the general following of fans towards the club. In the same way crowds drop on matchday, the engagement levels on here drop off too, it can be depressing writing about a terrible match you've just witnessed.
The fact most interesting threads on here descend into arguments and get anchored/locked so people think why bother.
Genuine concern/challenge/questions of the clubs are often dismissed by some as moaning/negative, when you are bottom of the league and have financial problems, it baffles me that some are surprised that a lot of fans aren't particularly positive.
And finally, I've noticed a few posters have deleted their accounts and without them, the post engagement naturally drops off
I disagree on the theory that people aren't talking here because it's the same old conversations, we are a small town football club, generally you are discussing the same thing week in, week out but B&A has managed to keep going for 20+ years. If anything with us, it's 'exciting' times as we have sacked our manager and are going through a takeover process, if the board is quiet now then it doesn't bode well for a more stable period.
Personally, I check the site fairly regularly but don't post much because there simply isn't much to respond to. And I certainly don't see this thread as attacking B&A, in fact I see it as the opposite, someone is raising a concern as to why it's quiet, I would have thought it would make sense to listen to why people aren't posting on here so much
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 12, 2024 11:03:19 GMT 1
There's probably a few different factors The apathy on matchday has extended to the general following of fans towards the club. In the same way crowds drop on matchday, the engagement levels on here drop off too, it can be depressing writing about a terrible match you've just witnessed. The fact most interesting threads on here descend into arguments and get anchored/locked so people think why bother. Genuine concern/challenge/questions of the clubs are often dismissed by some as moaning/negative, when you are bottom of the league and have financial problems, it baffles me that some are surprised that a lot of fans aren't particularly positive. And finally, I've noticed a few posters have deleted their accounts and without them, the post engagement naturally drops off I disagree on the theory that people aren't talking here because it's the same old conversations, we are a small town football club, generally you are discussing the same thing week in, week out but B&A has managed to keep going for 20+ years. If anything with us, it's 'exciting' times as we have sacked our manager and are going through a takeover process, if the board is quiet now then it doesn't bode well for a more stable period. Personally, I check the site fairly regularly but don't post much because there simply isn't much to respond to. And I certainly don't see this thread as attacking B&A, in fact I see it as the opposite, someone is raising a concern as to why it's quiet, I would have thought it would make sense to listen to why people aren't posting on here so much There's a lot of truth in this. People definitely have voted with their feet.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 12, 2024 11:15:06 GMT 1
There's probably a few different factors The apathy on matchday has extended to the general following of fans towards the club. In the same way crowds drop on matchday, the engagement levels on here drop off too, it can be depressing writing about a terrible match you've just witnessed. The fact most interesting threads on here descend into arguments and get anchored/locked so people think why bother. Genuine concern/challenge/questions of the clubs are often dismissed by some as moaning/negative, when you are bottom of the league and have financial problems, it baffles me that some are surprised that a lot of fans aren't particularly positive. And finally, I've noticed a few posters have deleted their accounts and without them, the post engagement naturally drops off I disagree on the theory that people aren't talking here because it's the same old conversations, we are a small town football club, generally you are discussing the same thing week in, week out but B&A has managed to keep going for 20+ years. If anything with us, it's 'exciting' times as we have sacked our manager and are going through a takeover process, if the board is quiet now then it doesn't bode well for a more stable period. Personally, I check the site fairly regularly but don't post much because there simply isn't much to respond to. And I certainly don't see this thread as attacking B&A, in fact I see it as the opposite, someone is raising a concern as to why it's quiet, I would have thought it would make sense to listen to why people aren't posting on here so much There's a lot of truth in this. People definitely have voted with their feet. 7 member deletes in 2024 275 new members
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Post by servernaside on Nov 12, 2024 11:31:55 GMT 1
It's not so much apathy as complete disillusionment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2024 11:35:54 GMT 1
It's the mental gymnastics done the moment the club is even suggested to be at fault. Not managers or players, question the board or Roland and you get claims of doctored footage, gaslighted and locked threads.
Who wants to be on an "independent" forum like that.
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Post by davycrockett on Nov 12, 2024 11:47:25 GMT 1
I didn't want Hurst. And worried about life after Roland. I do think people on here need to smell the coffee. The Welsh thing isn't going to happen and frankly I for one don't want my club taken over by self publicists People have been smelling the coffee far too long! Too many bad brews if late ☕️……too slow to move with the times too many heart leading head moments.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Nov 12, 2024 11:57:08 GMT 1
There's a lot of truth in this. People definitely have voted with their feet. 7 member deletes in 2024 275 new members When you click on members and sort by Date Registered, the first page has 50 members registered since August 2024, those 50 members have made 11 posts between them.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 12, 2024 12:06:05 GMT 1
It's the mental gymnastics done the moment the club is even suggested to be at fault. Not managers or players, question the board or Roland and you get claims of doctored footage, gaslighted and locked threads. Who wants to be on an "independent" forum like that. I posted something yesterday that was true and straight away I got shut down by someone calling me a liar If I break rules there are always several reports straight away Threads are only locked when the debate gets personal Prove otherwise or just stop gaslighting Thanks
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Post by Pilch on Nov 12, 2024 12:11:26 GMT 1
7 member deletes in 2024 275 new members When you click on members and sort by Date Registered, the first page has 50 members registered since August 2024, those 50 members have made 11 posts between them. New users are always shy unless they are just here as a resurrection Its always quiet in here when we hover around rock bottom And someone always starts this thread , and point fingers We need to blame someone at all costs this forum usually reflects the stands of the meadow Same at any football club I bet my post count is down too 😝
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 12, 2024 12:12:54 GMT 1
It's the mental gymnastics done the moment the club is even suggested to be at fault. Not managers or players, question the board or Roland and you get claims of doctored footage, gaslighted and locked threads. Who wants to be on an "independent" forum like that. Whether it's fair or not that's certainly how a lot of people feel. I was quite surprised to see and hear on Twitter the negativity about this forum.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 12, 2024 12:37:41 GMT 1
It's the mental gymnastics done the moment the club is even suggested to be at fault. Not managers or players, question the board or Roland and you get claims of doctored footage, gaslighted and locked threads. Who wants to be on an "independent" forum like that. Whether it's fair or not that's certainly how a lot of people feel. I was quite surprised to see and hear on Twitter the negativity about this forum. Well Dave , it only takes a few bitter and twisted anonymous cowards to devote their lives to copy and pasting pages from blue and amber and throwing abuse this way , that's the society we currently live in I try and limit the personal abuse on here and some don't like it but that's the way it is And some are just here to disrupt full stop Last week someone tried to register using the name jamo I rejected it , if it's the jamo we know then he already has an account , if he can't access his account ( it's not banned and never has been ) he could mention this whilst registering , or is it someone else who wants to pretend to be jamo , as much as we don't see eye to eye I'm not going to let that happen , I'd only get accused of being behind it anyway , it could just be someone with the same nickname , again I wouldn't allow it Anyway they have registered again yesterday When I reject it again they will go crying on Facebook or twitter saying they are being silenced That Just the average day on the s**thole We heard over 50% of fans crying out for hurst this time Last year and I've not seen one of them admit they were wrong
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 12, 2024 13:08:26 GMT 1
No-one wanted Hurst back to a bankrupt football club with an inept Director of Football and a lack of leadership due to an ongoing takeover.
I'll reserve judgement until I know a new manager has managed to fix everything with the same constraints.
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Post by shrewdownsouth on Nov 12, 2024 13:12:42 GMT 1
I rarely post on here. I used to visit once or twice a day, but now it's probably twice a week.
I agree that it's mainly because the posts seem to descend into the same old battles, so you rarely learn anything new. It always ends up being claims of M Moore stealing a living, whether or not you're someone who wanted Hurst back at the club, or whether Roland should have paid more attention when his club was being fleeced.
To throw an original thought into the mix, I also think it's partly because of the Shroppy Star paywall. I used to read content on their site, and then come on here and see what people thought about it. There's no way I'm paying £6 a month to access a few articles of Star content, and I suspect that's the same with most other posters on here. Which means that a lot of the day-to-day stuff doesn't get discussed anymore.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 12, 2024 14:28:23 GMT 1
It's the mental gymnastics done the moment the club is even suggested to be at fault. Not managers or players, question the board or Roland and you get claims of doctored footage, gaslighted and locked threads. Who wants to be on an "independent" forum like that. Fortunately there are always alternatives where voices can be heard and respected. And yet I challenged him to prove what he claimed but he chose to run instead and promptly deleted his account , and what did he do next he deleted his burner account If people played by the rules on here and played fair and just debated their point instead of name calling , pretending they are someone they aren't , be honest then we'd either get along fine or at least agree to disagree The sad thing is he will probably be back next week as Joe bloggs with a grudge Shame we have to have this debate every time town lose a few games In the meantime , town have a game tonight , no match thread , all people want to do is moan these days
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Post by pughywasfree on Nov 12, 2024 14:51:56 GMT 1
Why is there so many deleted accounts lately?
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