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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2024 18:36:32 GMT 1
The first choice ( hurst manager ) wasn't an option after cotterill bottled it and sneaked off Along came dof & Taylor Taylor despite a crazy imbalanced squad , smaller budget and the worst injury crisis ever did enough to keep us up , but fans still Cried And then hurst was an option Whether the dof is on hold is debatable But where are the shouts for let's return to a head coach , manager isn't working 😝😝 Wycherley sacked Taylor and employed Hurst the rest is just noise 👍 yes, I forget its all noise until its gossip youve heard yourself |
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Oct 28, 2024 19:19:17 GMT 1
If funds really are as tight as they're claimed to be, then there doesn't seem a whole lot of point in paying Hurst and Moore's salaries, given Hurst's clearly been given essentially full control. I'm not sure either could particularly complain if they were the one to lose their job based on performance, or indeed if they both did. The first choice ( hurst manager ) wasn't an option after cotterill bottled it and sneaked off Along came dof & Taylor Taylor despite a crazy imbalanced squad , smaller budget and the worst injury crisis ever did enough to keep us up , but fans still Cried And then hurst was an option Whether the dof is on hold is debatable But where are the shouts for let's return to a head coach , manager isn't working 😝😝 Didn't particularly require another crowbarred attempt at defending Taylor's record here, but you do you I guess. We could have gone with a different manager if Hurst wasn't available post-Cotterill, and/or a different head coach after it was decided Taylor wasn't working. We could also have not appointed Taylor, whose only qualifications were a failed spell in League 2 and being Moore's mate. It's on Roland that we veered wildly between overall manager Cotterill, Head Coach and DoF Taylor/Moore and back to overall manager Hurst, with the latter two looking like failures and the former a failure in terms of legacy. Anyway, to get back on topic, Moore's record has been largely poor in his time here and it's looking like yet another in a string of poor appointments from Roland. Two good appointments since Turner left ten years ago (Mellon and Hurst Volume One, three if Cotterill judged purely on results I guess) and a load that for different reasons can only be described as failures (Askey, Ricketts, Cotterill off-pitch allegedly, Moore, Taylor and Hurst Volume Two) For what it's worth if and when Hurst goes I'm not against returning to a Head Coach/DoF model if Moore's still around and getting a wage anyway. I'd be surprised with Roland's record and Moore's so far if it proved to be a successful one though. |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 28, 2024 19:36:55 GMT 1
Because they’re so few and far between that we’re usually too stunned and overwhelmed to ask the questions Fact is We are the Shrewsbury We cry when we lose Unlike any other set of fans? Seems odd that this is a forum for fans to express opinions but they're belittled for doing so. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2024 19:37:12 GMT 1
The first choice ( hurst manager ) wasn't an option after cotterill bottled it and sneaked off Along came dof & Taylor Taylor despite a crazy imbalanced squad , smaller budget and the worst injury crisis ever did enough to keep us up , but fans still Cried And then hurst was an option Whether the dof is on hold is debatable But where are the shouts for let's return to a head coach , manager isn't working 😝😝 Didn't particularly require another crowbarred attempt at defending Taylor's record here, but you do you I guess. We could have gone with a different manager if Hurst wasn't available post-Cotterill, and/or a different head coach after it was decided Taylor wasn't working. We could also have not appointed Taylor, whose only qualifications were a failed spell in League 2 and being Moore's mate. It's on Roland that we veered wildly between overall manager Cotterill, Head Coach and DoF Taylor/Moore and back to overall manager Hurst, with the latter two looking like failures and the former a failure in terms of legacy. Anyway, to get back on topic, Moore's record has been largely poor in his time here and it's looking like yet another in a string of poor appointments from Roland. Two good appointments since Turner left ten years ago (Mellon and Hurst Volume One, three if Cotterill judged purely on results I guess) and a load that for different reasons can only be described as failures (Askey, Ricketts, Cotterill off-pitch allegedly, Moore, Taylor and Hurst Volume Two) For what it's worth if and when Hurst goes I'm not against returning to a Head Coach/DoF model if Moore's still around and getting a wage anyway. I'd be surprised with Roland's record and Moore's so far if it proved to be a successful one though. as I pointed out, Moore & Taylor did remarkably well during the circumstances, and its debatable what input Moore has had since hurst arrived there must be something in that as someones best argument against it is its noise  |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2024 19:42:04 GMT 1
Fact is We are the Shrewsbury We cry when we lose Unlike any other set of fans? Seems odd that this is a forum for fans to express opinions but they're belittled for doing so. on Saturday our fans sang we're ****ing s**t we're ****ing s**t how s**t must you be its only 2-0 if Roland sells were on the p**s and many individual disgusting heckles I've come up with a chant to sum them up, and dont apologise for it |
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Moore Out
Oct 28, 2024 20:02:18 GMT 1
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 28, 2024 20:02:18 GMT 1
So you think Hurst should be sacked because we're terrible but if that fans sing about us being terrible that's bad?
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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2024 20:24:37 GMT 1
Micky Moore has just been round mine for a coffee, he's got a new spin doctor , none other than Kier Starmer who has helped him with his latest update
and I have a copy of here
Thank you Shrewsbury fans and thank you for everything you are doing,
Good evening and its always great to be here in Shrewsbury, not just a town in the heart of our county, but also our plans for growth
as we announced 2 weeks ago, 2.1 million pounds of investment to create help for the future right here
our club, stabilised , foundations fixed, hope for the future restored, a long step on the difficult task of returning the club to where it once stood
we are getting on with the job of repairing the mess the last management left just before I arrived, a 3 million pound black hole, too scared to form a proper squad, thats why they ran away from that exercise, because of the damage they knew it would uncover
I will say this, if fans want to criticise the path we choose, thats their prerogative
but let them explain to other fans how they would improve the club and get promotion
If they think the budget is too low, let them explain to fans why the lessons of Steve Cotterill no longer apply
you want change and that is what you will get
because that is the mandate I will deliver
the only path to return Salop to service of town fans
ok, I'll get my suit ;-)
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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2024 20:25:40 GMT 1
So you think Hurst should be sacked because we're terrible but if that fans sing about us being terrible that's bad? if this was a labour conference someone will have dragged you out by now and I've not once said hurst should be sacked, not sure why you have to make things up |
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Oct 28, 2024 20:53:49 GMT 1
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 28, 2024 20:53:49 GMT 1
So you think Hurst should be sacked because we're terrible but if that fans sing about us being terrible that's bad? if this was a labour conference someone will have dragged you out by now and I've not once said hurst should be sacked, not sure why you have to make things up No but you think it based on what you say. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2024 21:00:47 GMT 1
if this was a labour conference someone will have dragged you out by now and I've not once said hurst should be sacked, not sure why you have to make things up No but you think it based on what you say. no, you might think it but I'm pretty clear what I say I thought you'd be happy with this thread, you are normally complaining that Hurst gets a free ride from fans and is immune from criticism And for what it's worth no , even though I campaigned against having hurst back , he's here and I'll support him to the bitter end , I'm happy to criticise him like I am to any manager , but pay him off for bad results and gamble on someone else , not a chance , that's why our ground doesn't have things like railings , I'd rather have railings in league 2 than listen to moaners at the wrong end of league 1 demanding success |
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Moore Out
Oct 28, 2024 22:02:47 GMT 1
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Post by lancsman on Oct 28, 2024 22:02:47 GMT 1
You have got that so wrong.
You have read and totally forgot what we have said since the weekend. Get your facts right.
It has so far been said that what we want is a team put together with the best we have got and to play to each players strengths. What we want to get out of that team is shape, good football, passion and the other most important thing are players who will pull on the salop shirt and put their bodies on the line for salop. If we get that then we’ve got a chance in this division. One other point here is that we have a coach who knows what he is doing and gets the best out of the players.
Now with those facts work out whether the manager we have is the right one to do the above.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2024 22:17:39 GMT 1
You have got that so wrong. You have read and totally forgot what we have said since the weekend. Get your facts right. It has so far been said that what we want is a team put together with the best we have got and to play to each players strengths. What we want to get out of that team is shape, good football, passion and the other most important thing are players who will pull on the salop shirt and put their bodies on the line for salop. If we get that then we’ve got a chance in this division. One other point here is that we have a coach who knows what he is doing and gets the best out of the players. Now with those facts work out whether the manager we have is the right one to do the above. are you feeling ok ? |
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Moore Out
Oct 28, 2024 22:20:48 GMT 1
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Post by lancsman on Oct 28, 2024 22:20:48 GMT 1
You obviously are not.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2024 22:30:21 GMT 1
but who was that rant aimed at and what was it about ? |
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Moore Out
Oct 29, 2024 11:44:10 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 29, 2024 11:44:10 GMT 1
if this was a labour conference someone will have dragged you out by now and I've not once said hurst should be sacked, not sure why you have to make things up No but you think it based on what you say. We are honoured to have a mind reader as one of our posters. Fancy testing your powers by posting the details of tomorrow's budget on the political sub board? |
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Oct 29, 2024 13:16:17 GMT 1
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 29, 2024 13:16:17 GMT 1
No but you think it based on what you say. We are honoured to have a mind reader as one of our posters. Fancy testing your powers by posting the details of tomorrow's budget on the political sub board? Based on what you say... Based on the observable evidence. If you don't say you vote Tory but you slate everything Labour does and says then people have a similar conclusion. 🙂 |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 29, 2024 13:24:12 GMT 1
We are honoured to have a mind reader as one of our posters. Fancy testing your powers by posting the details of tomorrow's budget on the political sub board? Based on what you say... Based on the observable evidence. If you don't say you vote Tory but you slate everything Labour does and says then people have a similar conclusion. 🙂 Once again , I think that's aimed at me , I've never voted Tory , never will, and was amongst those saying Boris should not have resigned but been sacked instead I'm losing count of the false accusations you've made way way in the past year or so Saying that I know where you're coming from , there are a few on here that I swear don't support the town , everything they say is anti the club , they even attack those that clearly do support the club , they don't like being accused of it either |
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Moore Out
Nov 1, 2024 17:47:45 GMT 1
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Post by pensh on Nov 1, 2024 17:47:45 GMT 1
Are we due an update from Moore anytime soon on his role and thoughts on how the season is progressing? It’s pretty easy doing these updates in the close season or when things are going well, but a true worth of them is really in tough times like this when results aren’t going well It's pretty easy asking for updates when things are going bad , why dont fans ever ask for them after a decent win ? 🤔 |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 1, 2024 17:50:03 GMT 1
Based on what you say... Based on the observable evidence. If you don't say you vote Tory but you slate everything Labour does and says then people have a similar conclusion. 🙂 Once again , I think that's aimed at me , I've never voted Tory , never will, and was amongst those saying Boris should not have resigned but been sacked instead I'm losing count of the false accusations you've made way way in the past year or so Saying that I know where you're coming from , there are a few on here that I swear don't support the town , everything they say is anti the club , they even attack those that clearly do support the club , they don't like being accused of it either Sorry you've lost me on the politics. I've no idea who you vote for. It was just an example. Insert Lib Dems at your pleasure! |
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Post by Pilch on Nov 1, 2024 18:11:59 GMT 1
Once again , I think that's aimed at me , I've never voted Tory , never will, and was amongst those saying Boris should not have resigned but been sacked instead I'm losing count of the false accusations you've made way way in the past year or so Saying that I know where you're coming from , there are a few on here that I swear don't support the town , everything they say is anti the club , they even attack those that clearly do support the club , they don't like being accused of it either Sorry you've lost me on the politics. I've no idea who you vote for. It was just an example. Insert Lib Dems at your pleasure! its simple slagging of Labour isn't evidence that someone is a tory otherwise it could mean anyone having a pop at the town must be a telford fan ;-) |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 1, 2024 18:43:48 GMT 1
I guess that comes down to what "having a pop" actually means.
Some businesses have suggestion boxes and surveys and focus groups of their customers.
Some just get angry if anyone questions anything or makes a suggestion.
I guess it depends on your own personal sense of security, or your own attitude to your customers, or both.
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Post by dachshund on Nov 1, 2024 20:12:35 GMT 1
Micky Moore is the worst signing this club has made in my lifetime
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Post by Pilch on Nov 1, 2024 20:32:23 GMT 1
Micky Moore is the worst signing this club has made in my lifetime you are a telford fan |
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