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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 22, 2024 21:48:36 GMT 1
In Marquis defence he was knocked off his feet, got back up and tried to get back on side.
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Post by johnno on Oct 22, 2024 21:50:29 GMT 1
Lost for words really. Barnsley next at home, just hand them the 3 points now, we're either shocking or out of luck, so should be easy pickings for the Tykes.
If it wasn't so disappointing it would be funny, but something has to change or really has the club just given up on this season or purely waiting for the sale to go through.
I do feel sorry for Hursty I really do, but he surely must be surprised he's still in a job. I'm not saying sack him before I'm accused of moaning, just saying somethings got to happen to turn fortunes around
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Post by claphamshrew on Oct 22, 2024 21:54:06 GMT 1
The linesman didn't think there was anything wrong. The ref talked him into it. There was a Town player close to the goal but he wasn't interfering with play or blocking the keeper's vision. How could the ref say it was offside from where he was standing? Not sure about that. The whistle went as soon as the goal was scored but the players and cameras didn’t realise for a good 10 seconds or so. I suspect the lino had his flag up but by the time the cameras showed the ref talking to him he’d put it down whilst they discussed the offside. The lino was right to flag as Marquis was offside but the question then is whether he is interfering with play. It is then up to the ref to decide that as the lino is in no position to say. It looked to me like the ref guessed (possibly influenced by the lino) rather than giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team.
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Post by SamHarvey on Oct 22, 2024 21:54:20 GMT 1
I honestly don’t think we’d get much more from this team regardless of who’s in charge. And they likely would have little money to play with come January either. Add to all of this we probably can’t afford a change. All rather depressing really.
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Post by SamHarvey on Oct 22, 2024 21:56:02 GMT 1
The linesman didn't think there was anything wrong. The ref talked him into it. There was a Town player close to the goal but he wasn't interfering with play or blocking the keeper's vision. How could the ref say it was offside from where he was standing? Not sure about that. The whistle went as soon as the goal was scored but the players and cameras didn’t realise for a good 10 seconds or so. I suspect the lino had his flag up but by the time the cameras showed the ref talking to him he’d put it down whilst they discussed the offside. The lino was right to flag as Marquis was offside but the question then is whether he is interfering with play. It is then up to the ref to decide that as the lino is in no position to say. It looked to me like the ref guessed (possibly influenced by the lino) rather than giving the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team. Yeah this seemed to be the case from tv viewing … guess camdenshrew is giving an in person experience 😄 Things can seem a lot different when at the game
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Post by claphamshrew on Oct 22, 2024 21:58:17 GMT 1
In terms of the game you really can’t say we should have won comfortably. Yes we had decent chances but we looked pretty dreadful (as did they) and gave up possession in dangerous areas at an alarming rate.
Sagoe coming on for 15 minutes is a waste. He needs to be starting when the opposition are higher up the pitch. Even so, he caused them numerous issues during his brief cameo. I actually think he’s our best loanee and he’s the kind of player who doesn’t need the rest of the team to be playing well in order to create something.
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Post by lancsman on Oct 22, 2024 21:58:20 GMT 1
Once again the subs were on to late. When we got the ball in their half we didn’t know what to do. Appalling, again we couldn’t defend.In the first half marquis couldn’t get around the keeper and Young fell over his feet when it was easier to score. I have no doubt Hurst will find positives. The positive would be if he got his marching orders.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 22, 2024 21:58:32 GMT 1
hugely frustrating night, some awful play, some good play, subs were better but still at least 15 mins too late, half time would have been better some some of them, and then that one magic moment stolen from us with the kind of decision we only usually see at the likes of Anfield
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Oct 22, 2024 21:59:27 GMT 1
I think we've had it now. I'll still pop along in the hope of a miracle.
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Post by mattmw on Oct 22, 2024 21:59:30 GMT 1
At least with the offside decision by the linesman Hurst is only the second most useless individual in Bristol tonight.
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Post by SamHarvey on Oct 22, 2024 22:01:54 GMT 1
In terms of the game you really can’t say we should have won comfortably. Yes we had decent chances but we looked pretty dreadful (as did they) and give up possession in dangerous areas at an alarming rate. Sagoe coming on for 15 minutes is a waste. He needs to be starting when the opposition are higher up the pitch. Even so, he caused them numerous issues during his brief cameo. I actually think he’s our best loanee and he’s the kind of player who doesn’t need the rest of the team to be playing well in order to create something. Not necessarily comfortably, but we made enough chances to take something from this game. I actually think we have looked decent in spells in other games too. But ultimately we end up drawing, or more often losing, the games.
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Post by johnno on Oct 22, 2024 22:02:52 GMT 1
hugely frustrating night, some awful play, some good play, subs were better but still at least 15 mins too late, half time would have been better some some of them, and then that one magic moment stolen from us with the kind of decision we only usually see at the likes of Anfield Oh give it a rest
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 22, 2024 22:09:04 GMT 1
Honestly 6 goals would not have flattered us with the chances we created for the forwards tonight. Anyone look to blame the defence needs to watch the highlights.
Our performances and results have not improved since we went to 5 3 2, in fact I think our attacking threat has got worse. We built a squad of wingers and are playing with no wingers.
We have got to start picking up points.
What happened to the Hurst team that could outrun any team, that would be playing like it was the 5th minute in the 93rd! what happened to the tactics that kept the ball out of the net, got in front and was impossible to break down. The longer Hurst is here the more it confirms for me that the first spell was despite him not because of him. Luckily for him he got his big payday with Ipswich because this time next year he will be a non-league manager.
If I hear "the fans need to remember the situation we are in" any more I am going to burst a blood vessel. He resigned Pierre and he signed Nsiala, who are both the blame for most of our losses. It's ok though, we have 4 wingers when we don't play with wingers and 5 midfielders when we only play with 2! To top it off we have 2 strikers that need a dozen chances between them to get 1 goal!
The pot may be small but its been wasted big time. It does not take a football guru to work out that this season was going to backs against the wall so why have we spent so much on attacking players??
Rant over, see you Saturday.
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 22, 2024 22:19:32 GMT 1
Pierre totally unfit,and blowing through his arse....there goal was scored by a midfield player just waiting on the edge of box totally unmarked and similar to one of the goals Brum scored in league trophy game....we just don't learn,and the defence will take us down without a shadow of a doubt🤦🤦
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 22, 2024 22:20:10 GMT 1
And the attack!!!!!!🤦
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Post by MetaShrew on Oct 22, 2024 22:21:19 GMT 1
We wanted 'ship-shape and Bristol fashion'.
We got... well, make your own jokes.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 22, 2024 22:22:02 GMT 1
hugely frustrating night, some awful play, some good play, subs were better but still at least 15 mins too late, half time would have been better some some of them, and then that one magic moment stolen from us with the kind of decision we only usually see at the likes of Anfield Oh give it a rest Ok , subs were 20 mins late
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Post by claphamshrew on Oct 22, 2024 22:28:23 GMT 1
Honestly 6 goals would not have flattered us with the chances we created for the forwards tonight. Anyone look to blame the defence needs to watch the highlights. Pughy if you think that then you must be on another planet. Two goals would have been about right based on the number and quality of chances we created. On another day, and with a stout defence, we might have snuck a win, but we gave up a number of chances and can’t be aggrieved at not keeping a clean sheet. When we lose the ball in midfield and the opposition run at our defence we look absolutely woeful. We are poor at both ends of the pitch and we are nailed on for relegation. Whilst we look competitive in most games it’s becoming too much of a recurring theme and has happened in too many games to believe it can change. I’d love to be proved wrong but I just can’t see it.
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Post by chameleon on Oct 22, 2024 22:35:12 GMT 1
Honestly 6 goals would not have flattered us with the chances we created for the forwards tonight. Anyone look to blame the defence needs to watch the highlights. Pughy if you think that then you must be on another planet. Two goals would have been about right based on the number and quality of chances we created. On another day, and with a stout defence, we might have snuck a win, but we gave up a number of chances and can’t be aggrieved at not keeping a clean sheet. When we lose the ball in midfield and the opposition run at our defence we look absolutely woeful. We are poor at both ends of the pitch and we are nailed on for relegation. Whilst we look competitive in most games it’s becoming too much of a recurring theme and has happened in too many games to believe it can change. I’d love to be proved wrong but I just can’t see it. It does look like we’re nailed on for relegation. What a sad ending to Roland’s reign.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 22, 2024 22:35:29 GMT 1
Honestly 6 goals would not have flattered us with the chances we created for the forwards tonight. Anyone look to blame the defence needs to watch the highlights. Pughy if you think that then you must be on another planet. Two goals would have been about right based on the number and quality of chances we created. On another day, and with a stout defence, we might have snuck a win, but we gave up a number of chances and can’t be aggrieved at not keeping a clean sheet. When we lose the ball in midfield and the opposition run at our defence we look absolutely woeful. We are poor at both ends of the pitch and we are nailed on for relegation. Whilst we look competitive in most games it’s becoming too much of a recurring theme and has happened in too many games to believe it can change. I’d love to be proved wrong but I just can’t see it. The thing is we did have 3 good chances and several Half chances , it's ok saying we could have scored 6 , had everything gone right maybe we could but let's be honest , whatever we could have done tonight so could bristol without a doubt , every time they attacked we looked shakey , we pumped aimless balls down their keepers throat most of the night , at the same time our keeper is trying his best to chuck one in for them , not for the first time this season we managed to find a way to lose
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 22, 2024 22:41:48 GMT 1
Mons....nothing will change with our defence..no closing down,poor marking,poor passing out from defence,opposing wingers given far to much room to cut ball back...anything I've missed???🤦🤦
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 22, 2024 23:22:08 GMT 1
Honestly 6 goals would not have flattered us with the chances we created for the forwards tonight. Anyone look to blame the defence needs to watch the highlights. Pughy if you think that then you must be on another planet. Two goals would have been about right based on the number and quality of chances we created. On another day, and with a stout defence, we might have snuck a win, but we gave up a number of chances and can’t be aggrieved at not keeping a clean sheet. When we lose the ball in midfield and the opposition run at our defence we look absolutely woeful. We are poor at both ends of the pitch and we are nailed on for relegation. Whilst we look competitive in most games it’s becoming too much of a recurring theme and has happened in too many games to believe it can change. I’d love to be proved wrong but I just can’t see it. There was gaps at the back because we was giving it a good go at getting 3 points. I'd rather that than trying to hold on for a draw with 11 men sitting deep. I can't think of too many diffensive mistakes but I can think of numerous wasted chances.
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Post by mullersalopian on Oct 22, 2024 23:59:13 GMT 1
Pughy if you think that then you must be on another planet. Two goals would have been about right based on the number and quality of chances we created. On another day, and with a stout defence, we might have snuck a win, but we gave up a number of chances and can’t be aggrieved at not keeping a clean sheet. When we lose the ball in midfield and the opposition run at our defence we look absolutely woeful. We are poor at both ends of the pitch and we are nailed on for relegation. Whilst we look competitive in most games it’s becoming too much of a recurring theme and has happened in too many games to believe it can change. I’d love to be proved wrong but I just can’t see it. There was gaps at the back because we was giving it a good go at getting 3 points. I'd rather that than trying to hold on for a draw with 11 men sitting deep. I can't think of too many diffensive mistakes but I can think of numerous wasted chances. I'm starting thinking pughy is either Hurst or moore with these opinions 😂 fine margins will be next 😉
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 23, 2024 0:12:09 GMT 1
A draw would’ve been fair. I think overall we were arguably the better of two poor teams but you can’t discount the two off the woodwork for them.
The offside goal is incredibly harsh. That’s just the way it’s going, but we’re not miles away from victories. That’s not to say we’ll have enough quality to stay up, cos we won’t, but we’re not the worst looking crap Town team I’ve seen.
Please can we start Sagoe Jr/TOR and Castledine together, though?
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Post by suttonshrew on Oct 23, 2024 0:36:05 GMT 1
I’m probably going to get slated for this but it’s really sad to see so many town fans who seem to have given up the fight already.
Coming into this season it was obvious we were going to be scrapping for our lives, the league hasn’t just shifted up a gear, it’s shifted up 2 or 3 gears. I’d be amazed if we haven’t got the smallest budget in the league, and also the financial situation we have been left in means we have had to cut our cloth to safeguard the club. The fact is we have been here before many times, the situation has been worse than this but we will only have a chance to survive by the fans sticking with us.
We are in an out and out dog fight to stay up, one of which we are underdogs in, so let’s try and fight our way out of it, if we are going to go down let’s go down swinging and proud of our club and town.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 23, 2024 6:33:33 GMT 1
There was gaps at the back because we was giving it a good go at getting 3 points. I'd rather that than trying to hold on for a draw with 11 men sitting deep. I can't think of too many defensive mistakes but I can think of numerous wasted chances. I'm starting thinking pughy is either Hurst or moore with these opinions 😂 fine margins will be next 😉 Im not defending the performance, I just don't think blaming the defence for the loss is correct.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 23, 2024 6:36:45 GMT 1
A draw would’ve been fair. I think overall we were arguably the better of two poor teams but you can’t discount the two off the woodwork for them. The offside goal is incredibly harsh. That’s just the way it’s going, but we’re not miles away from victories. That’s not to say we’ll have enough quality to stay up, cos we won’t, but we’re not the worst looking crap Town team I’ve seen. Please can we start Sagoe Jr/TOR and Castledine together, though? There is no point playing Castledine if we do not have players able to link up with him. He was poor last night and struggled to get into the game. Our long ball style completely took him out of the game. Sagoe, Castledine, TOR with Bloxham up top are our best chance imo. They are raw enough not to get bogged down with the loss of confidence. They have their limits but they also have that special something to win a game of football.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 23, 2024 6:57:36 GMT 1
Decent honest interview
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 23, 2024 7:08:51 GMT 1
Extended highlights
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Post by Minormorris64 on Oct 23, 2024 9:04:55 GMT 1
They did hit the bar twice and the post.
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