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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 15, 2024 19:09:20 GMT 1
Tuchel out
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Post by Pilch on Oct 15, 2024 19:20:08 GMT 1
my opinion is the England manager should be English and a good stat to go with it... no manager has every won the World Cup with a country other than his own nationality |
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Post by venceremos on Oct 15, 2024 19:20:46 GMT 1
Interesting appointment. A good one, I think. Doesn't bother me whether the national manager's English or not.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Oct 15, 2024 19:21:22 GMT 1
It's a NO from me
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Post by belfastshrew on Oct 15, 2024 19:23:27 GMT 1
In my opinion...national managers should be of that nation 🤷♂️ it's just a job otherwise.
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 15, 2024 21:01:04 GMT 1
Me too.....but no English manager wants it..... they're on a loser straight away,and they know it🤷🤷
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 15, 2024 21:15:28 GMT 1
Whoever takes over from Southgate is on a loser unless they can get to major finals.
If they don't match that the press are just waiting to follow their back pages with the usual cr ap
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 15, 2024 22:09:29 GMT 1
If tuchel wins a euro,or world cup with England, he'll be an absolute hero,amongst the English folk.....German or not!!!
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Post by mullersalopian on Oct 15, 2024 22:44:21 GMT 1
Who do you want who is English? Rooney?
No English manager is close to tuchel unfortunately I'm happy it's just no lampard 😂
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 15, 2024 23:03:15 GMT 1
Warnock👍👍
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 15, 2024 23:22:17 GMT 1
Who do you want who is English? Rooney? No English manager is close to tuchel unfortunately I'm happy it's just no lampard 😂 Personally I would have stuck with Carsley and he did win an international tournament with the u21’s |
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Post by belfastshrew on Oct 15, 2024 23:33:22 GMT 1
If tuchel wins a euro,or world cup with England, he'll be an absolute hero,amongst the English folk.....German or not!!! of course, as with any nation. I agree there isn't much many English managers with his tactical prowess and his unaffiliation can also give an advantage in ways. Not bowing to the pressure of the nation for team selection etc. But I still maintain the manager of a nation should be of the nation. |
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Post by dibblydobbly on Oct 16, 2024 0:35:10 GMT 1
my opinion is the England manager should be English and a good stat to go with it... no manager has every won the World Cup with a country other than his own nationality With apologies for a rare moment of challenge with Pilch: If you look at the big footballing nations - Germany, France, Italy, Argentina, Brazil say, then some countries have only ever had native managers (Germany) and many others have had only one or two non-native in 100 years. So if only native managers are generally all the major countries choose, it is no wonder that only native managers win I gather Steven Naismith is available if that counts as native :-) |
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Post by secretshrew on Oct 16, 2024 6:54:40 GMT 1
Not for me. The issue is no outstanding English candidate. Blame Brexit 😉
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Post by shroppygold on Oct 16, 2024 7:52:01 GMT 1
Tuchel never rated him in all honesty.
I’ve never been one for foreign managers kind of got on with it with Sven and the Italian chap.
But a manager from our arch rivals the Germans it’s like klopp going to United from Liverpool nah
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Post by Pilch on Oct 16, 2024 8:09:21 GMT 1
Tuchel never rated him in all honesty. I’ve never been one for foreign managers kind of got on with it with Sven and the Italian chap. But a manager from our arch rivals the Germans it’s like klopp going to United from Liverpool nah he certainly remember his totally outwitting pep in the champs league final by doing nothing different, was doing fine at Chelsea, not really sure what went wrong there, however, finishing 3rd in the Bundesliga with Bayern 18 points off the top , you couldn't make that up , I guess time will tell, let hope we get the best from him |
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Post by harboroughshrew on Oct 16, 2024 8:10:35 GMT 1
I would prefer an English manager but Carsley's indecision about whether he wanted the job and the daft line-up he started with against Greece cost him the chance with the FA. Tuchel's CV looks superior when compared with those of the most prominent English contenders like Howe and Potter though I would worry a bit about his barren year with Bayern and his tendency to fall out with the people around him. Having said that he is an upgrade tactically on Southgate and he clearly does not suffer fools gladly so perhaps he is the man to improve the England team defensively and also to solve the conundrum of how to fit our attacking talent into a more effective unit in the big tournament games.
Willkommen Thomas!
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Post by rickyspanish on Oct 16, 2024 14:13:27 GMT 1
Tuchel has apologised for being German.
New England head coach Thomas Tuchel on unhappy supporters: "I am sorry I have a German passport. Maybe these supporters felt my passion for the Premier League and the country, how I love to live here and work here. Hopefully, I can convince them and show them how I am proud to be the England manager. I am proud."
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Post by MetaShrew on Oct 16, 2024 14:24:57 GMT 1
All I can say is that if he wins the World Cup, he will become English – no doubt about that!
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Post by shroppygold on Oct 16, 2024 15:09:26 GMT 1
Tuchel never rated him in all honesty. I’ve never been one for foreign managers kind of got on with it with Sven and the Italian chap. But a manager from our arch rivals the Germans it’s like klopp going to United from Liverpool nah he certainly remember his totally outwitting pep in the champs league final by doing nothing different, was doing fine at Chelsea, not really sure what went wrong there, however, finishing 3rd in the Bundesliga with Bayern 18 points off the top , you couldn't make that up , I guess time will tell, let hope we get the best from him Oh so because he out witted pep he’s world class. Didn’t Erik outwit pep a few months back |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 16, 2024 15:18:00 GMT 1
Not sure why being Germans being bounced about even by him, being foreign when the majority want an English manager's the thing. Are they going to close St George's Park managers pathway programmer?
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Post by venceremos on Oct 16, 2024 15:48:40 GMT 1
Winning the Champions League with a Chelsea team that was nowhere near the best in England, never mind Europe, was a huge achievement.
He's won something everywhere he's been - German Cup at Dortmund, French league twice at PSG, German league at Bayern, as well as that CL at Chelsea - that more than overshadows the one dud season at Bayern.
He clearly demands things be done his way - quite rightly - so he'll ruffle feathers no doubt. Maybe that's what England need to push on and convert tournament successes into actual wins.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Oct 16, 2024 15:49:53 GMT 1
The thing that's got my goat is an ex wrexham player being his assistant. What has become of us fffff k
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 16, 2024 16:48:32 GMT 1
The thing that's got my goat is an ex wrexham player being his assistant. What has become of us fffff k Actually his appointment as no2 is a positive as he was Martinez assistant at Belgium and Portugal before going to Bayern to be Tuchel number 2. So based on that he will have experience with 2 top national teams which will be useful. The fact he played 31 games for Wrexham in 2016 is irrelevant…. |
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Post by hectord0g137 on Oct 16, 2024 16:56:18 GMT 1
Tee hee I knew someone would have an opinion.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 16, 2024 17:52:54 GMT 1
he certainly remember his totally outwitting pep in the champs league final by doing nothing different, was doing fine at Chelsea, not really sure what went wrong there, however, finishing 3rd in the Bundesliga with Bayern 18 points off the top , you couldn't make that up , I guess time will tell, let hope we get the best from him Oh so because he out witted pep he’s world class. Didn’t Erik outwit pep a few months back talk about taking things out of context  |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 16, 2024 18:04:33 GMT 1
Tuchel never rated him in all honesty. I’ve never been one for foreign managers kind of got on with it with Sven and the Italian chap. But a manager from our arch rivals the Germans it’s like klopp going to United from Liverpool nah you could argue its like Klopp going to Liverpool |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 17, 2024 7:48:01 GMT 1
One question , is he going to be like most previous managers and just select from the so called big sides ?
I see Dominic solanke recently got giving his 2nd cap having just signed for spurs , he made in England debut in 2017 having just signed for Liverpool but hadn't actually scored for them or even started for them , Nothing in between despite him scoring almost 80 goals for Bournemouth
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Oct 17, 2024 8:08:40 GMT 1
Last English manager to win the Premier League, Howard Wilkinson in 1992-93! Last English manager to win a trophy, Harry Redknapp in 2008! And people wonder how the FA struggle to find an English manager! Rather have a foreign winner than an English loser!
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Post by belfastshrew on Oct 17, 2024 10:19:31 GMT 1
Was that when Harry Redknapp was at Portsmouth? Won the cup but got relegated?
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