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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 5, 2024 17:22:58 GMT 1
If I'm right then Hurst has now had the same amount of games (28) in charge as Taylor and the respective records are below:
Taylor - W9, D3, L16- Points 30
Hurst - W5, D8, L15- Points 23
Disclaimer- I was sad enough to do this, I wasn't sad enough to double-check it!
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Post by vladimir on Oct 5, 2024 17:37:11 GMT 1
No doubt he's had a shocker, though id say performance levels have been much better by and large to the utter dross that was served up under Taylor which wasn't punished in results.
Big few weeks of winnable league games against teams around us coming up for Hurst.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2024 17:52:00 GMT 1
Taylor either won or lost,
I called for Hurst to go after Tuesday and got criticised for it, I don't regret saying it.
I'll give him until Christmas, at least credit to him today for changing things around.
Draws are now starting to appear, I just hope some of them can be turned into wins.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Oct 5, 2024 18:46:04 GMT 1
According to BBC Town's worst start ever to a League campaign
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2024 19:10:20 GMT 1
It’s miraculous that Taylor had a better than one point a game average, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Town teams results be so much more than their performances deserved.
Hurst’s return has sadly not followed the fairy tale route, but instead the common sense and logic route.
Would still rather have him than Taylor though, in my head that’s not even a question.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 5, 2024 19:40:22 GMT 1
It’s miraculous that Taylor had a better than one point a game average, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Town teams results be so much more than their performances deserved. Hurst’s return has sadly not followed the fairy tale route, but instead the common sense and logic route. Would still rather have him than Taylor though, in my head that’s not even a question. glad you thought was Taylor did was miraculous , I thought it was too with what he had to work with , football wasn't great but it's all about results as we all know |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2024 19:47:45 GMT 1
It’s miraculous that Taylor had a better than one point a game average, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Town teams results be so much more than their performances deserved. Hurst’s return has sadly not followed the fairy tale route, but instead the common sense and logic route. Would still rather have him than Taylor though, in my head that’s not even a question. Well the football is better under Hurst that's for such, the result's aren't at the moment. Perhaps the answer is to give time. Interesting to see how it goes against the lesser teams and the run up to Christmas, if a change is made then it should happen at the start of January, else will just have to go until the end of the season. |
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 5, 2024 19:53:32 GMT 1
There won't be a change... it's up to the players now,to carry on from todays decent performance...should give em a little bit of confidence moving forward 👍👍
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Post by belfastshrew on Oct 5, 2024 19:58:27 GMT 1
I think Castledine is only a loan to January? So Hurst could loan in a new defender to sort out the leaky defence
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 5, 2024 20:32:04 GMT 1
I think its hard to judge on stats. Taylor inherited SC squad and had a full pre-season. Hurst inherited a MT squad that was not only low on confidence but were ridiculously unfit and then had to recruit nearly a whole squad with some magic beans and a few buttons.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 5, 2024 20:33:56 GMT 1
Taylor either won or lost, I called for Hurst to go after Tuesday and got criticised for it, I don't regret saying it. I'll give him until Christmas, at least credit to him today for changing things around. Draws are now starting to appear, I just hope some of them can be turned into wins. You did not get criticised, people just rightly pointed out that there is no chance of him getting the boot for a number of reasons. You can call for what ever you like at Christmas but it wont change the fact Hurst is going nowhere. |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Oct 5, 2024 22:15:42 GMT 1
I think Castledine is only a loan to January? So Hurst could loan in a new defender to sort out the leaky defence Pretty sure Castledine (and the other youngsters) are season long loans. However such a loan can be terminated in the January window by either club if they so wish. That is my understanding. |
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 6, 2024 0:01:13 GMT 1
It’s miraculous that Taylor had a better than one point a game average, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Town teams results be so much more than their performances deserved. Hurst’s return has sadly not followed the fairy tale route, but instead the common sense and logic route. Would still rather have him than Taylor though, in my head that’s not even a question. Taylor played the worst football at the town since the end days of Simpson, absolutely clueless, we should’ve sacked him earlier then we did after the debacle at Blackpool, I’ll always stand by that At the same time, no doubting Hurst’s record is cack, I’d have never got him back, and he’s got a massive next 6 games imo or fans will turn |
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 6, 2024 0:13:34 GMT 1
It’s a shocking record. Somehow Taylor produced some of the ‘worst’ wins my eyes have ever seen in his opening half a dozen games. Hurst hasn’t been so blessed with the early fixture but there is now a spell coming up that’ll be make or break.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Oct 6, 2024 11:45:31 GMT 1
If I'm right then Hurst has now had the same amount of games (28) in charge as Taylor and the respective records are below: Taylor - W9, D3, L16- Points 30 Hurst - W5, D8, L15- Points 23 Disclaimer- I was sad enough to do this, I wasn't sad enough to double-check it! The caveat is that Taylor inherited players the club couldn’t afford who took the club to a 12 place finish. |
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Post by zenfootball on Oct 6, 2024 11:47:48 GMT 1
I think Castledine is only a loan to January? So Hurst could loan in a new defender to sort out the leaky defence Pretty sure Castledine (and the other youngsters) are season long loans. However such a loan can be terminated in the January window by either club if they so wish. That is my understanding. i hope we can keep Castledine and the other loan players. i like Castledine . |
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Post by zenfootball on Oct 6, 2024 11:49:24 GMT 1
considering the stick other managers have got for poor runs, I think the fans have been amazingly tolerant.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2024 12:15:51 GMT 1
Pretty sure Castledine (and the other youngsters) are season long loans. However such a loan can be terminated in the January window by either club if they so wish. That is my understanding. i hope we can keep Castledine and the other loan players. i like Castledine . I'd definitely be wanting to keep hold of Castledine out of all the loan players. J.Feeney as well. I think Kayode may be the one that is sent back, only because of his injury record. Didn't Hurst forfeit signing Harvey Rodgers for Gilliead and Ojo just before the window. |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 6, 2024 12:26:03 GMT 1
considering the stick other managers have got for poor runs, I think the fans have been amazingly tolerant. I've always said , fans decide on day 1 how tolerant they are going to be with managers, and from that day forward they only see what they want to see I remember a recent manager getting the sack after a 2-2 away draw where we went 2-0 up, mind you he had lost one of the last 6 games  there was a major backlash as the equaliser was scored, I got stick for some reason too blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/101027/mkd-away?page=10then again, some managers could throw away a 3 goal lead and escape with hardly a peep  blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/103087/shrewsbury-doncaster-match-thread?page=2 |
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Post by zenfootball on Oct 6, 2024 13:48:10 GMT 1
i hope we can keep Castledine and the other loan players. i like Castledine . I'd definitely be wanting to keep hold of Castledine out of all the loan players. J.Feeney as well. I think Kayode may be the one that is sent back, only because of his injury record. Didn't Hurst forfeit signing Harvey Rodgers for Gilliead and Ojo just before the window. i did not know that about Harvey Rodgers , i do remember there were rumours we were after him. whilst Ojo is doing ok ,not so sure about Gilliead . |
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Post by markglasgow on Oct 6, 2024 14:03:03 GMT 1
Hurst has a pretty strong track record of nightmare starts to the season since he left us.
Ipswich in 2018 we all know about. Took him until his 12th league match to get his one and only Championship win, He was sacked soon after suffering two further league defeats. They had already been dispatched by Exeter in the EFL cup. A grand total of 1 win in 15 matches. A pathetic 6.7% win rate.
Another disaster of start when he joined Sc***horpe in 2019. Despite managing at L2 level Hurst could only manage one win in the first 12 matches. During this run Scunny were also dispatched from both cup comps. PH did recover however and strung some results together but was sacked in January after another 5 match winless run.
Hurst then returned to Grimsby at the end of 2021. Despite the club being 7pts clear of the relegation when the much maligned Holloway was sacked, Hurst worked his new found magic and ensured that Grimsby would be playing Non-League football that next season. The season in the Nat League is famous for that bonkers afternoon in the play offs. Grimsby did get off to a good start but fell out of the play off places and only a good run March/April got them back into contention. The season back in L2 was one of consolidation and GTFC never threatened to push for promotion. The season highlight was an impressive if somewhat unlikely FA Cup run spearheaded by Luke Waterfall.
Hurst penchant for poor starts to the season returned in 2023/24. Just the 2 wins in the first 10 games and Hurst was quickly dispatched by Grimsby towards the end of October with Grimsby floudering in 21st place in L2.
Hurst must have been pinching himself when the call from RW came in. We have reaped what we have sowed.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 6, 2024 14:18:39 GMT 1
Hurst has a pretty strong track record of nightmare starts to the season since he left us. Ipswich in 2018 we all know about. Took him until his 12th league match to get his one and only Championship win, He was sacked soon after suffering two further league defeats. They had already been dispatched by Exeter in the EFL cup. A grand total of 1 win in 15 matches. A pathetic 6.7% win rate. Another disaster of start when he joined Sc***horpe in 2019. Despite managing at L2 level Hurst could only manage one win in the first 12 matches. During this run Scunny were also dispatched from both cup comps. PH did recover however and strung some results together but was sacked in January after another 5 match winless run. Hurst then returned to Grimsby at the end of 2021. Despite the club being 7pts clear of the relegation when the much maligned Holloway was sacked, Hurst worked his new found magic and ensured that Grimsby would be playing Non-League football that next season. The season in the Nat League is famous for that bonkers afternoon in the play offs. Grimsby did get off to a good start but fell out of the play off places and only a good run March/April got them back into contention. The season back in L2 was one of consolidation and GTFC never threatened to push for promotion. The season highlight was an impressive if somewhat unlikely FA Cup run spearheaded by Luke Waterfall. Hurst penchant for poor starts to the season returned in 2023/24. Just the 2 wins in the first 10 games and Hurst was quickly dispatched by Grimsby towards the end of October with Grimsby floudering in 21st place in L2. Hurst must have been pinching himself when the call from RW came in. We have reaped what we have sowed. you might find it was hurst who came looking to see if he could have his old job back |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 6, 2024 16:13:00 GMT 1
If I'm right then Hurst has now had the same amount of games (28) in charge as Taylor and the respective records are below: Taylor - W9, D3, L16- Points 30 Hurst - W5, D8, L15- Points 23 Disclaimer- I was sad enough to do this, I wasn't sad enough to double-check it! The caveat is that Taylor inherited players the club couldn’t afford who took the club to a 12 place finish. And Hurst managed those same players for 18 games but had a worse record than Taylor |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 6, 2024 16:26:51 GMT 1
The caveat is that Taylor inherited players the club couldn’t afford who took the club to a 12 place finish. And Hurst managed those same players for 18 games but had a worse record than Taylor And most of which had recovered from the injury they had at the start of the season It really is a glaring stat that many fans don't want to discuss |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2024 16:28:21 GMT 1
And Hurst managed those same players for 18 games but had a worse record than Taylor And most of which had recovered from the injury they had at the start of the season It really is a glaring stat that many fans don't want to discuss Except people are actually discussing it… |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 6, 2024 16:37:31 GMT 1
And most of which had recovered from the injury they had at the start of the season It really is a glaring stat that many fans don't want to discuss Except people are actually discussing it… I can one or 2 are opening their eyes and talking But once again it's a glaring stat that many don't want to discuss |
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Post by davycrockett on Oct 6, 2024 16:42:03 GMT 1
Except people are actually discussing it… I can one or 2 are opening their eyes and talking But once again it's a glaring stat that many don't want to discuss Show it to Roland and ask why he sacked him |
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Post by Pilch on Oct 6, 2024 16:45:25 GMT 1
I can one or 2 are opening their eyes and talking But once again it's a glaring stat that many don't want to discuss Show it to Roland and ask why he sacked him who me ? why ? thread is about Hursts poor record in comparison to Taylors |
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Post by zenfootball on Oct 6, 2024 17:14:01 GMT 1
Hurst has a pretty strong track record of nightmare starts to the season since he left us. Ipswich in 2018 we all know about. Took him until his 12th league match to get his one and only Championship win, He was sacked soon after suffering two further league defeats. They had already been dispatched by Exeter in the EFL cup. A grand total of 1 win in 15 matches. A pathetic 6.7% win rate. Another disaster of start when he joined Sc***horpe in 2019. Despite managing at L2 level Hurst could only manage one win in the first 12 matches. During this run Scunny were also dispatched from both cup comps. PH did recover however and strung some results together but was sacked in January after another 5 match winless run. Hurst then returned to Grimsby at the end of 2021. Despite the club being 7pts clear of the relegation when the much maligned Holloway was sacked, Hurst worked his new found magic and ensured that Grimsby would be playing Non-League football that next season. The season in the Nat League is famous for that bonkers afternoon in the play offs. Grimsby did get off to a good start but fell out of the play off places and only a good run March/April got them back into contention. The season back in L2 was one of consolidation and GTFC never threatened to push for promotion. The season highlight was an impressive if somewhat unlikely FA Cup run spearheaded by Luke Waterfall. Hurst penchant for poor starts to the season returned in 2023/24. Just the 2 wins in the first 10 games and Hurst was quickly dispatched by Grimsby towards the end of October with Grimsby floudering in 21st place in L2. Hurst must have been pinching himself when the call from RW came in. We have reaped what we have sowed. most club owners looking at the stats would not touch him with ten foot barge pole, yet our chairman did. |
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 6, 2024 17:18:04 GMT 1
Perhaps if they sack Hurst,they can go back in for Taylor, seeming that he's got a much better record than Hurst👍🤦🤦🤦
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