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Post by northwestman on Sept 16, 2024 11:06:50 GMT 1
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Post by rob62 on Sept 17, 2024 18:01:02 GMT 1
I think Corbyn was wrong on most issues, but at least he had principles and stuck to his hard left beliefs.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Sept 17, 2024 20:47:56 GMT 1
Corbyn has integrity, but was totally unelectable as Labour leader.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 19, 2024 16:17:10 GMT 1
Corbyn has integrity, but was totally unelectable as Labour leader. Like Michael Foot |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 19, 2024 16:25:55 GMT 1
An insight into the murkey world of politics whilst Starmer won, 15 years of awful government , a tsunami of sleeze and the most incompetent shoot myself in the foot on a daily basis Sunak campaign all helped. Even with this the Labour vote was not huge. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 19, 2024 16:28:43 GMT 1
Corbyn may have been unelectable, he did manage to engage with young voters something the conservatives did not do. I also don't get the impression that Starmer has been able to do it either.
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Post by northwestman on Sept 19, 2024 16:41:54 GMT 1
Corbyn may have been unelectable, he did manage to engage with young voters something the conservatives did not do. I also don't get the impression that Starmer has been able to do it either. No. I don't think Starmer will now be quite so keen to give the vote to 16-18 year olds, as I think he's realised that most would not be likely to be voting for him. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 19, 2024 17:19:12 GMT 1
Corbyn may have been unelectable, he did manage to engage with young voters something the conservatives did not do. I also don't get the impression that Starmer has been able to do it either. No. I don't think Starmer will now be quite so keen to give the vote to 16-18 year olds, as I think he's realised that most would not be likely to be voting for him. As most won't vote conservatives, I suspect the ones who will vote ,will go with the greens or even the lib Dems with some voting labour My daughter did not trust Starmer and voted for the greens, it is sad there such apathy amongst young voters but sleaze and blatant cronyism will do that. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2024 16:48:27 GMT 1
No. I don't think Starmer will now be quite so keen to give the vote to 16-18 year olds, as I think he's realised that most would not be likely to be voting for him. As most won't vote conservatives, I suspect the ones who will vote ,will go with the greens or even the lib Dems with some voting labour My daughter did not trust Starmer and voted for the greens, it is sad there such apathy amongst young voters but sleaze and blatant cronyism will do that. And that apathy stretches into local council elections, even more so when 7 even up to 8 out of 10 don't bother casting a vote.How do you engage with the disenfranchised? A far from easy task. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 20, 2024 17:54:20 GMT 1
As most won't vote conservatives, I suspect the ones who will vote ,will go with the greens or even the lib Dems with some voting labour My daughter did not trust Starmer and voted for the greens, it is sad there such apathy amongst young voters but sleaze and blatant cronyism will do that. And that apathy stretches into local council elections, even more so when 7 even up to 8 out of 10 don't bother casting a vote.How do you engage with the disenfranchised? A far from easy task. Yes your right, |
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Post by northwestman on Sept 24, 2024 11:06:01 GMT 1
Sir Keir Starmer faces a fresh backlash over his relationship with Lord Alli because of the role played by one of the donor’s former staff members in choosing prospective Labour MPs.
Matthew Faulding, who was in charge of candidate selection for this year’s general election, worked in Lord Alli’s office on secondment from his firm BM Creative Management in the months before the poll.
He was blamed by critics of Sir Keir for “parachuting” favoured candidates into constituencies, imposing them on local Labour associations. He is now Secretary of the Parliamentary Labour Party, “keeping them all in check” according to one former member of Labour’s National Executive Committee (NEC), who described the arrangement as “rotten to the core”.
Daily Telegraph.
Faulding was instrumental in running the selection of candidates for Westminster. The result has been a list of Starmer allies – rather than left wingers – standing for seats at the election. He worked together with McSweeney to achieve this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2024 15:14:55 GMT 1
If Labour had coalesced behind Corbyn in 2017 they would have won the election or at least become the largest party, but the backstabbing from the likes on Stephen Kinnock prevented that unity from being possible. Those people were responsible for the last 7 years of the Tory government.
I am a Labour member and parish councillor, but I am literally within a hairs breadth of quitting the party and sitting as an independent for the next few years. Labour is supposed to be the party of working people, but it seems as though they are just another cheek of the backside, especially in Westminster and I wonder if they do really give a toss about us at all.
I expected better from Rayner based on her long friendships with Rebecca Long-Bailey (who incidentally got my vote for leader) and Tracy Brabin, but it seems as though power does corrupt or at least makes you turn on your friends.
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Post by northwestman on Sept 26, 2024 10:26:02 GMT 1
If Labour had coalesced behind Corbyn in 2017 they would have won the election or at least become the largest party, but the backstabbing from the likes on Stephen Kinnock prevented that unity from being possible. Those people were responsible for the last 7 years of the Tory government.
I am a Labour member and parish councillor, but I am literally within a hairs breadth of quitting the party and sitting as an independent for the next few years. Labour is supposed to be the party of working people, but it seems as though they are just another cheek of the backside, especially in Westminster and I wonder if they do really give a toss about us at all.
I expected better from Rayner based on her long friendships with Rebecca Long-Bailey (who incidentally got my vote for leader) and Tracy Brabin, but it seems as though power does corrupt or at least makes you turn on your friends.
Yes, and you can add Darren Jones to that list. When he was Chair of a Select Committee, he was forensic in his examination of witnesses. Now he's Chief Secretary to the Treasury, he's backing his boss Reeves 100% on her withdrawal of the Winter Fuel Payment from most pensioners and defending the freebies he's received. Meanwhile, we still await verification from the Treasury that the £22 billion black hole really exists, and if so what is the breakdown of the sums of money involved. |
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Post by northwestman on Sept 26, 2024 21:17:07 GMT 1
Last night, at a Labour Together event, chief secretary to the Treasury Darren Jones was asked about the free tickets he received to one of Taylor Swift’s concerts earlier this year.
Some discussion was had about whether he should have accepted the gifts altogether but, most importantly, he was then asked about his favourite Swift song.
He could not name one. Hell, he went one step further and admitted that he’d not felt moved by the gig at all, and had only attended it for the sake of his daughters.
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