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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 14, 2024 8:29:21 GMT 1
A sniper tried to kill Trump, there was a couple of shoots, he did not seem seriously injured on the clip I saw. But sadly one person died and two others are critically ill.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 14, 2024 9:27:06 GMT 1
Time to revise those American gun laws?
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Post by johnno on Jul 14, 2024 9:28:52 GMT 1
His fist pumping was a sign of just what a bellend he really is. There's plenty of rumours already around about this and I would totally not rule any of them out
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Post by Pilch on Jul 14, 2024 9:50:14 GMT 1
His fist pumping was a sign of just what a bellend he really is. There's plenty of rumours already around about this and I would totally not rule any of them out as much as I agree he is a bit of a bell... if that was someone else that I really liked , then that fist pumping would have been such a relief and defiant moment of history, could well win him the vote (just waiting for someone to suggest it was planned )  |
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Post by Minormorris64 on Jul 14, 2024 10:28:42 GMT 1
Was up watching as it happened , planned ha ha ha, right Donald just turn your head sideways at whatever time it was and a 20 year old will just nick the side of your head from 130 yards reaaaaaaaly
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Post by Pilch on Jul 14, 2024 10:42:39 GMT 1
Was up watching as it happened , planned ha ha ha, right Donald just turn your head sideways at whatever time it was and a 20 year old will just nick the side of your head from 130 yards reaaaaaaaly lol, guess what, I just checked the Washington post Some accounts from the left of the political spectrum immediately claimed that the shooting was a “false flag” operation perpetrated by Trump’s own supporters. Some on the far right accused President Biden of ordering a hit on a political rival. america  |
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Post by salop27 on Jul 14, 2024 10:45:59 GMT 1
Shooting at Trump rally?
News is saying Assassination attempt.
This isn't as bad as the murder of Jo Cox but is pretty high up there as an attack on democracy.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 14, 2024 10:49:44 GMT 1
Shooting at Trump rally? News is saying Assassination attempt. This isn't as bad as the murder of Jo Cox but is pretty high up there as an attack on democracy. ? 1 dead and 2 critically injured , killer on the loose |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 14, 2024 11:21:10 GMT 1
Could have altered the course of American history hugely.
For the better of course.
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Post by Scarecrow on Jul 14, 2024 11:30:03 GMT 1
Could have altered the course of American history hugely. For the better of course. Cheering political assassinations in a democratic state is one of the most disgusting things to see on this message board. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the decision belongs to the voters in the ballot box, not the man with a sniper rifle. Nobody should ever be killed for having a political opinion you disagree with no matter how reprehensible. Disgusting. |
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 14, 2024 12:08:56 GMT 1
Could have altered the course of American history hugely. For the better of course. Cheering political assassinations in a democratic state is one of the most disgusting things to see on this message board. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the decision belongs to the voters in the ballot box, not the man with a sniper rifle. Nobody should ever be killed for having a political opinion you disagree with no matter how reprehensible. Disgusting. This 👍🏼 Hopefully Trump wins in November |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 14, 2024 12:45:05 GMT 1
Sorry for having an opinion. 😭
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 14, 2024 12:47:31 GMT 1
If you live in a country where guns are two a penny and have held a position where you could have changed it then I’m afraid this event was inevitable whatever our thoughts may be.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 14, 2024 12:52:58 GMT 1
This will play into Trump’s hands. We are going to be in a very dark place if he wins in Nov.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 14, 2024 12:54:33 GMT 1
Could have altered the course of American history hugely. For the better of course. i cant stand him but i would not wont him to be shoot, if you follow your logic anyone who is deeply unpopular can be shoot and you are ok with that? The people who will suffer are the family's of the person shoo dead and the other two people who are critically ill and there familys, i hope they pull through and don't have life changing injuries |
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 14, 2024 12:55:26 GMT 1
Could have altered the course of American history hugely. For the better of course. Cheering political assassinations in a democratic state is one of the most disgusting things to see on this message board. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the decision belongs to the voters in the ballot box, not the man with a sniper rifle. Nobody should ever be killed for having a political opinion you disagree with no matter how reprehensible. Disgusting. If someone assassinated Putin? Voted in with a landslide majority but his opponents would question how democratic. Trumps supporters also questioned democracy and tried to overthrow the election result. How about Hitler, voted in democratically but assassination would have now been looked at as a good dead. Not sure I agree with your blanket let the people decide in extreme circumstance and Trumps extremities are unknown. He’s a dangerous man but just how dangerous? First thing he’d do is abolish the 2 term presidency rule, just like Putin did. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 14, 2024 12:57:55 GMT 1
Could have altered the course of American history hugely. For the better of course. Cheering political assassinations in a democratic state is one of the most disgusting things to see on this message board. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the decision belongs to the voters in the ballot box, not the man with a sniper rifle. Nobody should ever be killed for having a political opinion you disagree with no matter how reprehensible. Disgusting. I saw a lot worse yesterday on this forum, having just made the kind of speech you have im surprised you didn't comment on the one yesterday seeing as you posted just underneath it oh well, lets move on |
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Post by wakemanender on Jul 14, 2024 12:59:06 GMT 1
It was interesting watching the secret service agents springing into action as per the training book. All the males close by putting their own lives at risk by surrounding Trump and dragging him off to the waiting vehicle. They are then joined by a couple of female agents who are clearly pumped up adjusting their sunglasses for the cameras and trying to find their holster to put their guns away but clearly failing. Good job tho. Just a pity they couldn't have acted quicker when told by members of the public that a man had been seen climbing onto a nearby roof before Trump started speaking. Questions to be asked. I think a similar thing happened prior to the Manchester arena bombing where suspicions were raised but not acted on or taken seriously. Early days yet so we will see.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 14, 2024 13:03:32 GMT 1
It was interesting watching the secret service agents springing into action as per the training book. All the males close by putting their own lives at risk by surrounding Trump and dragging him off to the waiting vehicle. They are then joined by a couple of female agents who are clearly pumped up adjusting their sunglasses for the cameras and trying to find their holster to put their guns away but clearly failing. Good job tho. Just a pity they couldn't have acted quicker when told by members of the public that a man had been seen climbing onto a nearby roof before Trump started speaking. Questions to be asked. I think a similar thing happened prior to the Manchester arena bombing where suspicions were raised but not acted on or taken seriously. Early days yet so we will see. they can do as much training as they like, when that happens for real for the first time, it must be a horrible situation to be in |
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Jul 14, 2024 13:04:38 GMT 1
That's the election won for old Donald.
Strangest nation in earth.
God Bless America.
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 14, 2024 13:05:00 GMT 1
Cheering political assassinations in a democratic state is one of the most disgusting things to see on this message board. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the decision belongs to the voters in the ballot box, not the man with a sniper rifle. Nobody should ever be killed for having a political opinion you disagree with no matter how reprehensible. Disgusting. If someone assassinated Putin? Voted in with a landslide majority but his opponents would question how democratic. Trumps supporters also questioned democracy and tried to overthrow the election result. How about Hitler, voted in democratically but assassination would have now been looked at as a good dead. Not sure I agree with your blanket let the people decide in extreme circumstance and Trumps extremities are unknown. He’s a dangerous man but just how dangerous? First thing he’d do is abolish the 2 term presidency rule, just like Putin did. We had this scare story rhetoric 8/9 years ago, and he turned out to be anything but “dangerous”, the world was a far safer place 2016-2020 than it is now, and I expect it would be again if hopefully he is re-elected |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 14, 2024 13:15:43 GMT 1
The iconic fist pumping photo: Apparently he shouted "wait, wait, wait" at the secret service guys before they dragged him off. As ever, the political opportunist.
As has been said, he had 4 years as president to do something about guns, my view of him would go up if he now faced up to those National Rifle Association guys. He also needs to lower the political temperature, no more inflammatory language about democratic votes, win or lose.
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 14, 2024 13:26:46 GMT 1
Absolutely agree with this.
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Post by Scarecrow on Jul 14, 2024 13:35:10 GMT 1
Cheering political assassinations in a democratic state is one of the most disgusting things to see on this message board. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the decision belongs to the voters in the ballot box, not the man with a sniper rifle. Nobody should ever be killed for having a political opinion you disagree with no matter how reprehensible. Disgusting. I saw a lot worse yesterday on this forum, having just made the kind of speech you have im surprised you didn't comment on the one yesterday seeing as you posted just underneath it oh well, lets move on Didn’t see it, I don’t read everything on this message board. |
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Post by mattmw on Jul 14, 2024 13:39:26 GMT 1
I imagine like the JFK shooting lots of conspiracy claims will emerge over last nights assassination attempt, but I tend to think these are something of a defence mechanism in the US.
The idea a lone untrained individual can take a shot at one of the most powerful people in the world unchecked by the security services scares people, hence the need to invent conspiracy theories to reassure themselves how good the US secret service is
I’ve only spent a short time in the US and found the availability of guns and clear evidence how many people carried guns on a day to day basis very unsettling. In many ways it’s amazing more of these incidents don’t occur more regularly
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Post by Scarecrow on Jul 14, 2024 13:40:02 GMT 1
Cheering political assassinations in a democratic state is one of the most disgusting things to see on this message board. Regardless of your opinion of Trump, the decision belongs to the voters in the ballot box, not the man with a sniper rifle. Nobody should ever be killed for having a political opinion you disagree with no matter how reprehensible. Disgusting. If someone assassinated Putin? Voted in with a landslide majority but his opponents would question how democratic. Trumps supporters also questioned democracy and tried to overthrow the election result. How about Hitler, voted in democratically but assassination would have now been looked at as a good dead. Not sure I agree with your blanket let the people decide in extreme circumstance and Trumps extremities are unknown. He’s a dangerous man but just how dangerous? First thing he’d do is abolish the 2 term presidency rule, just like Putin did. Hitler wasn’t elected, he was appointed chancellor by Hindernberg. He never won power or even a majority in the Reichstag until the Reichstag Fire allowed him to form a solid coalition with the catholic right. Trump also isn’t Putin. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 14, 2024 13:43:55 GMT 1
It was interesting watching the secret service agents springing into action as per the training book. All the males close by putting their own lives at risk by surrounding Trump and dragging him off to the waiting vehicle. They are then joined by a couple of female agents who are clearly pumped up adjusting their sunglasses for the cameras and trying to find their holster to put their guns away but clearly failing. Good job tho. Just a pity they couldn't have acted quicker when told by members of the public that a man had been seen climbing onto a nearby roof before Trump started speaking. Questions to be asked. I think a similar thing happened prior to the Manchester arena bombing where suspicions were raised but not acted on or taken seriously. Early days yet so we will see. they can do as much training as they like, when that happens for real for the first time, it must be a horrible situation to be in I agree with you about training, there is a process called emotional waveband, when you are inexperienced you process less which has an impact on your performance. There is no way I would won't there job. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 14, 2024 13:47:25 GMT 1
I saw a lot worse yesterday on this forum, having just made the kind of speech you have im surprised you didn't comment on the one yesterday seeing as you posted just underneath it oh well, lets move on Didn’t see it, I don’t read everything on this message board. pop over and give it your thoughts |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 14, 2024 13:50:52 GMT 1
It's a very risky way to get your ears pierced.
It's also an indication of the deep divisions in America, are either of these two old men, Biden or Trump, able or willing to heal those divisions?
Looking from afar, America needs to have a sense of purpose again, to be great again. A JFK, a Ronald Reagan, someone who gives them the brash confidence again. But chiefly, someone who can unite them.
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Post by DiglisShrew on Jul 14, 2024 16:59:12 GMT 1
The iconic fist pumping photo: Apparently he shouted "wait, wait, wait" at the secret service guys before they dragged him off. As ever, the political opportunist. As has been said, he had 4 years as president to do something about guns, my view of him would go up if he now faced up to those National Rifle Association guys. He also needs to lower the political temperature, no more inflammatory language about democratic votes, win or lose. He is reported to be shouting “fight ,fight , fight” . Who or what isn’t clear !! |
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