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Post by chameleon on Jun 8, 2024 13:58:13 GMT 1
Pierre signing next week. How do you know? I can’t tell you that.
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Post by edgmond on Jun 8, 2024 14:13:20 GMT 1
I can't see toto and Pierre playing together......unless Pierre gets himself a lot fitter and sharper....under hursts fitness regime...that could happen I think Pierre will surprise a few next season, PH will whip him into shape with a full preseason. Before picking up the injury AP worked really hard to get back to fitness. There’s no doubt Hurst thinks he can cope with the regime, otherwise why offer a contract? People seem convinced he’s innately slow. I would say a fit AP is no slouch, but pace isn’t everything and he has so many attributes to his game that I look forward to seeing him in the stripes next season….if the rumours about him signing are correct.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jun 9, 2024 10:53:17 GMT 1
I'm a frayed you'll have to count me out of the lovefest for Nsiala. You won't find me giving a dose of clap to Hurst or Nsiala.
I never forgive or forget. It must be in my jeans.
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 9, 2024 11:52:48 GMT 1
I’m the same jaytee. If they do well for the club then fine but I just cannot forget.
I am far more interested in supporting young signings like George Lloyd and it’s a shame his coming has been somewhat eclipsed by all this.
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Post by jontifree on Jun 9, 2024 12:43:14 GMT 1
I have absolutely no issues with Nsiala (or Hurst) leaving us for Ipswich. Pretty sure the vast majority of us would have done the same in his position. He owed us nothing, he had performed well for us that season and the move earned the club a decent amount of money.
I welcome him back and just hope that he can perform to the same standard that he did last time he was here. If that earns him another big money move away from us at the end of this coming season then good luck to him. I've long given up on expecting loyalty from players. It's just a job to them at the end of the day and if they get a better offer elsewhere because they have done a good job for us then that works for both parties.
Until we are in the Champions League then don't expect players to turn down offers from elsewhere to stay with us.
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 9, 2024 12:54:17 GMT 1
As has been said many times it’s not what they did it’s the way that they did it.
All this claptrap about it’s in god’s hands what was all that about? I’m weighing up my options would at least have been more honest.
No one blames anyone for bettering themselves but at least be up front and honest about it.
The lateness of it all left us and our new manager in an impossible position for the start of the season.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 9, 2024 12:58:13 GMT 1
Nobody knows exactly what went on do they?? It couldn't of upset Roland to much could it..... he's had him back!!!🤣😂🤣🥳
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 9, 2024 13:03:11 GMT 1
But we do know for a fact that they went and weren’t up front about it. They showed us, the fans, no respect or thanks for all the support we gave them during that season.
Respect works both ways and has to be earned. Not my problem what went on at the club. A proper goodbye to us the fans would have made a lot of difference.
Roland appointed someone who he knew most fans would apparently be pleased with at a time when he is at his least popular. Principles go out of the window at such times sadly.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Jun 9, 2024 13:20:31 GMT 1
As has been said many times it’s not what they did it’s the way that they did it. All this claptrap about it’s in god’s hands what was all that about? I’m weighing up my options would at least have been more honest. No one blames anyone for bettering themselves but at least be up front and honest about it. The lateness of it all left us and our new manager in an impossible position for the start of the season. It was always going to be a challenge for Askey even before the 2 of them left for Ipswich.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 9, 2024 13:51:28 GMT 1
Good interview by Aristote, seems happy to be back and seems like a grounded and intelligent figure who’ll hopefully be an asset.
Life’s far too short to be bitter over trivial things.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 9, 2024 14:02:04 GMT 1
Exactly......time to look forward not back.....s**t happens not only at Shrewsbury,but loads of it elsewhere.....players going on strike,players refusing to play......**** me,you could write a book....and to cap it all toto made us £800,000 pounds....and a bloody good job by the looks of the finances!!!
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 9, 2024 14:25:29 GMT 1
Respect for people isn’t trivial.
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Post by ssshrew on Jun 9, 2024 14:26:05 GMT 1
As has been said many times it’s not what they did it’s the way that they did it. All this claptrap about it’s in god’s hands what was all that about? I’m weighing up my options would at least have been more honest. No one blames anyone for bettering themselves but at least be up front and honest about it. The lateness of it all left us and our new manager in an impossible position for the start of the season. It was always going to be a challenge for Askey even before the 2 of them left for Ipswich. Indeed but it didn’t help.
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Post by sober on Jun 9, 2024 15:19:42 GMT 1
Players come, players go. its easy to get het up about, harder to understand. If moving on to better things how much can they actually say, they`re narrative in leaving is short lived. this is a never ending merry go around that is proffesional football. Do we say to those footballers that give 100% and dont make the grade anything ?
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Post by blueboy48 on Jun 10, 2024 0:01:46 GMT 1
Supporters only get upset when we lose a good player but couldn't care less about those deemed not good enough. They are all young men trying to carve out a career in a very ruthless business and its all over by their early 30's. How many if us would turn down a better job with better money out of loyalty to their employer. We got £2.2m off Ipswich as compensation and yet six years later Hurst, Toto and Nolan "cannot be forgiven" by some. In my view there's nothing to forgive, either in going or not going in some mythical correct way. I am just grateful they went for £2.2m because without it then we might not have a club at all now. Small clubs sell to survive, we all know that. It's called the real world.
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Post by mrcricket on Jun 10, 2024 3:10:27 GMT 1
It was probably very good business, Toto left for money (and a lot of it) is he the same player he was 6 years ago who knows but I'll get behind him.
Would be interesting to know if he would have signed had Dunkley had of renewed or was the offer to Dunkley so poor that this was always going to happen.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Jun 10, 2024 6:23:09 GMT 1
It was probably very good business, Toto left for money (and a lot of it) is he the same player he was 6 years ago who knows but I'll get behind him. Would be interesting to know if he would have signed had Dunkley had of renewed or was the offer to Dunkley so poor that this was always going to happen. Well Chesterfield offered more money than we did
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 10, 2024 8:21:07 GMT 1
Yep....cos we ain't got any..... the previous incumbent spent it all and more🤷🤷🤷
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Post by blueboy48 on Jun 10, 2024 8:49:03 GMT 1
At the age of 32, a three year contract would also be very attractive.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jun 10, 2024 9:16:16 GMT 1
For all this talk of how he disrespected us, my understanding is Ipswich made a bid, we turned it down, he said he wanted to leave so put in a transfer request. Is that the gist of it? If so, he's not the first player to do that, in fact Leahy did the same last year and then we have players like Pennington and Goldson who effectively went on strike to force through moves.
Whilst this has obviously come out of the blue, the biggest surprise for me is we've given a 32 year old a 2 year contract, although I'm guessing if we are limited on the wages we can offer, we are going to offer longer contracts to try and entice players.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 10, 2024 9:35:29 GMT 1
Yep....that's about right,can't see what all the fuss is about toto leaving.it was an offer he couldn't turn down,just like Nolan, leahy,and goldson🤷🤷🤷
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Post by shrewswolf on Jun 10, 2024 10:13:19 GMT 1
If the Micky Moore strategy ever comes off, the aim is to sign players capable of getting attention from elsewhere. They will of course also ask us to allow them to pursue a higher level if offers came in, if we were refusing to accept them. That’s all a transfer request is, probably someone politely going to the manager and saying ‘I’d really like to take this opportunity for my career and family’.
There will be the odd exception but we don’t half expect a lot from the same players we’d all release in an instant when they age or their form drops off.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 10, 2024 10:25:52 GMT 1
It was probably very good business, Toto left for money (and a lot of it) is he the same player he was 6 years ago who knows but I'll get behind him. Would be interesting to know if he would have signed had Dunkley had of renewed or was the offer to Dunkley so poor that this was always going to happen. Well Chesterfield offered more money than we did You are just presuming that , I saw dunkley as a player way past his league 1 best , he single handedly cost us one game 4 Minutes in and was lucky he didn't get sent off as early just a week or 2 earlier , he's got no pace, ok always a Menace and threat on our corners and solid in the air , but my opinion is chesterfield have probably offered him only as much or even less than we have , the difference is they have had to offer him 3 years to tempt him , would you offer him 3 more seasons here ? I wouldn't want to risk 2 , I think chey also realises he will struggle this season and may have opted for a seemingly easier option and if it's more convenient for where he lives it's win win all round for him , good luck to him but I think him signing for them is more about convenience and long term security rather than making a few extra quid as in udohs case
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jun 10, 2024 10:38:13 GMT 1
I can't see how he " disrespected" us.
No more than Grant Holt did.
Making us a shed load of money to improve their career.
The timing was in the hands of both clubs, not the player.
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Post by FloreatShrew on Jun 10, 2024 10:41:34 GMT 1
We didn't go down because of them. We didn't stay up with them. They made up a tidy profit.
I'm not bothered. It happens. I bet Telford are gutted still Udoh left them.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 10, 2024 10:47:54 GMT 1
A pet hate of mine on here is the bizarre scramble this time of the season for fans to create and endless list of past players they want to return , I hope none of those with a grudge to toto fall into that bracket for anyone we've ever sold 😝
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jun 10, 2024 11:00:43 GMT 1
We didn't go down because of them. We didn't stay up with them. They made up a tidy profit. I'm not bothered. It happens. I bet Telford are gutted still Udoh left them. They'll be even more disappointed when (if) he walks away for free this summer as they have a sell on clause
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Post by pepi64 on Jun 10, 2024 11:05:56 GMT 1
Yep....cos we ain't got any..... the previous incumbent spent it all and more🤷🤷🤷 You mean Roland let him spend the money and is now using him as a scapegoat for all the over spend.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 10, 2024 11:34:07 GMT 1
Yep....cos we ain't got any..... the previous incumbent spent it all and more🤷🤷🤷 You mean Roland let him spend the money and is now using him as a scapegoat for all the over spend. The manager not only chose how he wanted to use the budget , but he often did it with deception whenever the chairman asked questions , did anyone on here ever question what cotterill was up to at the time he was here ? ( well apart from me ) 😜
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Post by tarporleyblue on Jun 10, 2024 13:36:19 GMT 1
Yep....cos we ain't got any..... the previous incumbent spent it all and more🤷🤷🤷 You mean Roland let him spend the money and is now using him as a scapegoat for all the over spend. The old blame game, nothing new.
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