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Post by edgmond on May 28, 2024 13:25:43 GMT 1
Compare and contrast:
2017-18 GF 60 GA 39
2023-24 GF 35 GA 67
As a footnote, we had the second best defence and were joint seventh highest scorers in 17-18.
Whether you describe it as more entertaining or just more effective, we all know which we would prefer. I know this is stating the blindingly obvious, but I do like a stat!
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Post by chirkshrew on May 28, 2024 13:47:17 GMT 1
More entertaining and more effective,looking at those stats🤷🤷
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Post by edgmond on May 28, 2024 15:14:46 GMT 1
Isn't there also some regulation about the minimum/maximum length of the grass? I was tempted to say that I once visited The Valley and the grass was 3 feet high. (I'm sure everyone can solve that riddle!) On a serious note, I don't know the answer but allowances would presumably be made for teams without undersoil heating. The grass at The Meadow is incredible if you compare it with the old days at the GM but is noticeably longer than in the Premier League where playing surfaces usually resemble bowling greens, even in the depths of winter. If there are no such allowances, it's definitely not a level playing field......🤪 |
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Post by Minormorris64 on May 28, 2024 16:05:28 GMT 1
IFAB Laws of the Game 2023-24
3. Dimensions
The touchline must be longer than the goal-line.
Length (touchline):
minimum 90m (100yds)
maximum 120m (130yds)
Length (goal-line):
minimum 45m (50yds)
maximum 90m (100yds)
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 28, 2024 16:25:46 GMT 1
IFAB Laws of the Game 2023-24 3. Dimensions The touchline must be longer than the goal-line. Length (touchline): minimum 90m (100yds) maximum 120m (130yds) Length (goal-line): minimum 45m (50yds) maximum 90m (100yds) So the pitch could actually be almost square (not quite but almost). Could be 100 yards long x 99 yards wide. Interesting, never knew diamentions could be so close. |
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Post by Pilch on May 28, 2024 16:39:43 GMT 1
IFAB Laws of the Game 2023-24 3. Dimensions The touchline must be longer than the goal-line. Length (touchline): minimum 90m (100yds) maximum 120m (130yds) Length (goal-line): minimum 45m (50yds) maximum 90m (100yds) So the pitch could actually be almost square (not quite but almost). Could be 100 yards long x 99 yards wide. Interesting, never knew diamentions could be so close. Not in the efl though 64-75m x100-110m |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 28, 2024 16:46:55 GMT 1
So the pitch could actually be almost square (not quite but almost). Could be 100 yards long x 99 yards wide. Interesting, never knew diamentions could be so close. Not in the efl though 64-75m x100-110m Thought that was rather generous with options. |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 28, 2024 16:59:26 GMT 1
Hurst doesn't play entertaining football. We only really hammered one side that whole season, Bristol Rovers. What Hurst does is very effective and competitive football. Disagree, I was throughly entertained most of the 17/18 season, we played some lung busting energetic football, with some real neat elements of play. Our ability to retain possession from throw ins being exemplary that season compared to what came before Hurst, and after as well. People complained it was boring to watch and we only won by a single goal 😂😂😂 |
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Post by Pilch on May 28, 2024 17:01:47 GMT 1
Disagree, I was throughly entertained most of the 17/18 season, we played some lung busting energetic football, with some real neat elements of play. Our ability to retain possession from throw ins being exemplary that season compared to what came before Hurst, and after as well. People complained it was boring to watch and we only won by a single goal 😂😂😂 And don't forget all that extra space to take the ball into the corner and hold it for the last 15 minutes of each game 😝 |
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Post by chirkshrew on May 28, 2024 17:06:25 GMT 1
Make the opposing team work for the win or draw.....and that's how it should be,and with the bigger pitch,and Hurst and co getting us fit.....that is what will happen,in my eyes
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on May 28, 2024 17:11:03 GMT 1
I don’t go any further than being entertained when my team is winning.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 28, 2024 17:20:48 GMT 1
I don’t go any further than being entertained when my team is winning. Exactly. Everything else is far too Spursy. |
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Post by ogil on May 28, 2024 17:33:55 GMT 1
I found the 17/18 season very entertaining. The brilliance and charisma of Henderson, the skill and flair of Nolan, the dynamic wing play of Whalley and Rodman. All this combined with high levels of fitness and a great work ethic. And that wasn't entertaining?!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 28, 2024 17:44:45 GMT 1
I found the 17/18 season very entertaining. The brilliance and charisma of Henderson, the skill and flair of Nolan, the dynamic wing play of Whalley and Rodman. All this combined with high levels of fitness and a great work ethic. And that wasn't entertaining?! I loved almost every second of it! But no, people thought we were too defensive and needed to "have a go" |
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Post by Pilch on May 28, 2024 18:54:02 GMT 1
I found the 17/18 season very entertaining. The brilliance and charisma of Henderson, the skill and flair of Nolan, the dynamic wing play of Whalley and Rodman. All this combined with high levels of fitness and a great work ethic. And that wasn't entertaining?! I loved almost every second of it! But no, people thought we were too defensive and needed to "have a go" I thought Bradford away was a big turning point for us, terrible mistake from Hurst to leave Beckles on, it was a must win game, but hey, we managed 88 points, incredible achievement, I still dont know how we did but we did, I can only liken it to Emma Radicanu winning the US open, I mean did either of those 2 things actually happen ? |
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Post by pughywasfree on May 29, 2024 7:38:50 GMT 1
Looks like Hurst will try to sign players who will fit into his preferred 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 formations with two attacking wide players (we already have one in Shipley on the left and it would be great to see him playing there in front of a fit Nurse at left back). Those formation suits a wide pitch but the crucial point is that the midfield must be contested with the team not falling back by default into the low block. The low block tactics can be effective on occasions but it is agony for home fans to watch that in a majority of games and we hope that Hurst can improve the fitness of the squad to be able to compete more in midfield. I agree that in Hurst's first full season we did not score a hatful of goals but we did compete with energy and good teamwork in all areas of the pitch and I expect to see that replicated next season. We knew that the longer the game went on the more of an edge we would have. We was never out of games and we knew that if we can get in front we can defend the lead against anyone. That was entertaining (probably more so that there was only 1 goal in games). I remember games where we have been 3-0 up by half time and the 2nd half was a boring formality. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 29, 2024 14:20:23 GMT 1
I wonder if we will go back to wingers under Hurst, either way I would rather see the star covering our new signings than our pitch will be wider the clock is ticking and I just hope Hurst has got his eye on some players. To get a decent amount of pre training done.
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Post by dibblydobbly on May 29, 2024 14:20:58 GMT 1
As long as the pitch meets the minimum size requirement we can go bigger than it was before, just not to change it mid season. Not sure why Star call it risky, much easier to play attaching football and score goals on a bigger pitch, we did it last year away towards end of season. Should mean more entertainment either way You have to stick with the size once decided, no changes allowed during the season. As I said - "not to change it mid season" -- however Last year one club did get dispensation to change so it can be done, was done on grounds of pitch condition I think so likely just a one off. |
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 14:34:02 GMT 1
the one thing no one has questioned is how much wider will it be ?
1 inch ?
10 years ?
at what point does it become wide enough to satisfy those constantly crying out for it ?
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Post by dibblydobbly on May 29, 2024 14:41:42 GMT 1
the one thing no one has questioned is how much wider will it be ? 1 inch ? 10 years ? at what point does it become wide enough to satisfy those constantly crying out for it ? About 2 stone |
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 15:53:59 GMT 1
wait until some fans find out we are only widening one side of the pitch ;-)
( its true actually )
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Post by DiglisShrew on May 29, 2024 16:32:55 GMT 1
wait until some fans find out we are only widening one side of the pitch ;-) ( its true actually ) Not doubting you 🙄😉But on the assumption that the goals need to be at a mid - point are they being moved too 🤔 |
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Post by Pilch on May 29, 2024 16:49:14 GMT 1
wait until some fans find out we are only widening one side of the pitch ;-) ( its true actually ) Not doubting you 🙄😉But on the assumption that the goals need to be at a mid - point are they being moved too 🤔 dont spoil it  |
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