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Post by kenwood on Jun 24, 2024 10:09:35 GMT 1
I thought it looked a definite penalty but why no VAR , I don’t understand that decision. Maybe the Video Assist Ref told the ref in real time no pen play on? Who knows . Anyway , there are also calls for offside as the ball is played through . Perhaps the ref was advised the player was off side and rather than award a free kick to Hungary he let play continue . All very strange but overall a poor game . Handley my MOM for Scotland and that’s saying something . He battled throughout and gave everything . McGregor played balls sideways , backwards anywhere but forwards. Looks good in the SPL but on the international stage he doesn’t impress .
Let’s see what our lot do on Tuesday , we should get through easily in first place but then the big boys competition takes over . We have the squad available to really compete at this level and even win the competition so I’m hoping we stop arsing around and play a more adventurous style of football moving the ball far quicker and causing defences loads of problems . I would also like to see Southgate make changes earlier on in a game if needed . We have the talent for Gods sake use it otherwise what’s the point of taking players to the tournament to sit on the bench .
Like the look of Spain and France , even Belgium look tasty at times which shouldn’t be a surprise considering their ranking and players . Come on England show us what we all crave , performances to make us proud.
Just to finish the stadiums look fantastic in Germany , very impressed with them .
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Post by Pilch on Jun 24, 2024 11:16:38 GMT 1
having read the latest posts I thought I'd check the penalty claim again and still not convinced in the slightest firstly he appears to be offside anyway , the Scots player then initiates the contact by slowing down and obstructing the defender by using his left arm around the throat area to hold him off ( that's a foul I say ) and later grabs his shirt and pulls him down on top of him never a pen
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Jun 24, 2024 12:05:31 GMT 1
I can see why Clarke is upset about the penalty but, in my eyes, it’s a ‘six of one, half dozen of another’ challenge. The defender puts his arm across Armstrongs chest, but Armstrong grabs the defenders shirt and pulls him. The defenders leg hits Armstrong leg but only because Armstrong is pulling him. They both go down, Armstrong because he was kicked, the defender because he was pulled.
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Post by wakemanender on Jun 24, 2024 12:24:16 GMT 1
Scotland just lack quality players but no lack of effort and commitment. Supporters cant really complain and the Manager did everything he could with the players he had.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jun 24, 2024 12:33:37 GMT 1
Should have took Grealish.....over and out
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Post by gtismygod on Jun 24, 2024 12:56:05 GMT 1
having read the latest posts I thought I'd check the penalty claim again and still not convinced in the slightest firstly he appears to be offside anyway , the Scots player then initiates the contact by slowing down and obstructing the defender by using his left arm around the throat area to hold him off ( that's a foul I say ) and later grabs his shirt and pulls him down on top of him never a pen I know you enjoy a good wind-up as much as anyone, but I’ll engage. He’s clearly onside, the defenders leg is clearly playing him on. It’s not even tight in the general scheme offsides these days. Secondly, he’s well within his rights to initiate contact, as it’s a contact sport. Contact isn’t a foul. He’s also well within his rights to slow down or speed up, as he’s the one in possession of the ball. Lastly, he grabs the defenders shirt as he’s falling to the ground after being absolutely clattered from behind. The foul has already happened by the time he grabs his shirt.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 24, 2024 13:11:00 GMT 1
having read the latest posts I thought I'd check the penalty claim again and still not convinced in the slightest firstly he appears to be offside anyway , the Scots player then initiates the contact by slowing down and obstructing the defender by using his left arm around the throat area to hold him off ( that's a foul I say ) and later grabs his shirt and pulls him down on top of him never a pen I know you enjoy a good wind-up as much as anyone, but I’ll engage. He’s clearly onside, the defenders leg is clearly playing him on. It’s not even tight in the general scheme offsides these days. Secondly, he’s well within his rights to initiate contact, as it’s a contact sport. Contact isn’t a foul. He’s also well within his rights to slow down or speed up, as he’s the one in possession of the ball. Lastly, he grabs the defenders shirt as he’s falling to the ground after being absolutely clattered from behind. The foul has already happened by the time he grabs his shirt. The only clear thing is there is nothing clear , it's not me trying to wind up anyone , if you check there are a some lame attempts on here get a reaction from the few who became temporary Scots for 90mins , none bit as I guess they couldn't really care 2 hoots once the final whistle went , kids eh 🥳
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Post by dibblydobbly on Jun 24, 2024 14:18:32 GMT 1
having read the latest posts I thought I'd check the penalty claim again and still not convinced in the slightest firstly he appears to be offside anyway , the Scots player then initiates the contact by slowing down and obstructing the defender by using his left arm around the throat area to hold him off ( that's a foul I say ) and later grabs his shirt and pulls him down on top of him never a pen I know you enjoy a good wind-up as much as anyone, but I’ll engage. He’s clearly onside, the defenders leg is clearly playing him on. It’s not even tight in the general scheme offsides these days. Secondly, he’s well within his rights to initiate contact, as it’s a contact sport. Contact isn’t a foul. He’s also well within his rights to slow down or speed up, as he’s the one in possession of the ball. Lastly, he grabs the defenders shirt as he’s falling to the ground after being absolutely clattered from behind. The foul has already happened by the time he grabs his shirt. We were not ambitious enough throughout, struggled to get the ball in to midfield and up for most of the game, and if I am being blunt, by slowing down I had thought Armstrong no longer had control of the ball. Though as I am regularly told I know nothing about football, perhaps I talking gibberish, but for me if you want to win you don't have no shots for 45 minutes, you cannot rely on a blitz in the last 15 minutes to get you through,
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 24, 2024 14:46:40 GMT 1
Once again the Scotish fans were a credit to thair country. I'm sure they would be welcome anywhere in the world. I've always loved my ttrips up there, and I've never been treated with anything but respect and friendship. I hope I have reciprocated. My mate emigrated to Munich a few years ago but was a Burnley STH for 40 years before moving. He has never liked Scots but says their fans in Munich were the best he’s ever seen.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 24, 2024 15:04:36 GMT 1
Although it happens time and time again I don't believe you're allowed to grab and pull another players shirt. It was six of one, half a dozen the other. I can certainly see why the penalty wasn't given. From what I recall the BBC we making great pains to highlight the contact on the attackers leg by circling it yet failed to lift that a little further north to highlight the clear pull on the defenders shirt which pulled him down...which I gather they thought we ought to just ignore.
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Post by belfastshrew on Jun 24, 2024 15:16:36 GMT 1
The BBC tried desperately to make Scotland's exit look like a referee error because they can't just say 'Scotland weren't good enough'. It was embarrassing to watch Shearer bleet on falsely about a 50/50 pen decision.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 24, 2024 21:21:11 GMT 1
When did the throwing of beer after a goal become a thing ?
if you don't drink do you just get a tenner out of your wallet and throw that ?
Throwing the cups on the pitch too is so akin to 1970s with toilet rolls
Idiots
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Post by Pilch on Jun 24, 2024 22:11:53 GMT 1
worst game for me so far, Italy 1 Croatia 1
good news England have qualified
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Post by MetaShrew on Jun 24, 2024 22:32:30 GMT 1
England absolutely crushing the tournament, sailing through to the next round with a game to spare...
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Post by harboroughshrew on Jun 24, 2024 23:10:57 GMT 1
Going back to the Scotland 'penalty' some decisions are on a knife edge and the decision could go either way but the ref had a very good view of the incident and did not give it. VAR rightly did not intervene as there had not been a clear and obvious error. It is really depressing for managers to big up incidents like this (Fergie was the master of this back in the day) instead of actually admitting that their team was not good enough to win the game.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 25, 2024 7:30:28 GMT 1
Some desperate fishing on this thread 😝😝
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Post by dibblydobbly on Jun 25, 2024 8:07:14 GMT 1
Going back to the Scotland 'penalty' some decisions are on a knife edge and the decision could go either way but the ref had a very good view of the incident and did not give it. VAR rightly did not intervene as there had not been a clear and obvious error. It is really depressing for managers to big up incidents like this (Fergie was the master of this back in the day) instead of actually admitting that their team was not good enough to win the game. Can't win a game without shots on target, and hoping for a penalty by trying to obtain one, when trying to shoot was an option is never the answer, decent shot at least gets a corner if not more, falling over relies ono someone else seeing it your way. 45 minutes watching centrebacks and wing backs faff about is not for me.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 25, 2024 8:28:42 GMT 1
sorry to see Scotland go out. with Albania losing England will still go through even if they stuff things up. I hope England turn up and do a lot better and go through as group winners.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 25, 2024 8:57:49 GMT 1
who will England meet in the qtrs? If England win Group C, they will play one of the four best third-placed teams in the last-16. The formula to decide who gets who is very complicate) and depends on the combination of third-placed teams to go through. If England finish second: If England are Group C runners-up, they will face Germany in Dortmund on Saturday 29 June. If England finish third: If England go through in third, they will play either the winner of Group B, Group E or Group F. Spain and Portugal are already through as winners of Group B and Group F, respectively, while Belgium are favourites to top a wide-open Group E on Wednesday. The formula to decide who gets who is very complicated and depends on the combination of third-placed teams to go through. so thats pretty simple, its Germany on Sunday
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 25, 2024 8:59:37 GMT 1
🤣😂
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Post by wakemanender on Jun 25, 2024 9:01:15 GMT 1
Anyone managed to work out who England are likely to be playing in the knock out stages. It used to be straight forward but difficult now with third place teams being involved.
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Post by wakemanender on Jun 25, 2024 9:03:31 GMT 1
Sorry just missed above. Germany it is then. Probably.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 25, 2024 11:29:32 GMT 1
I’m desperate for England to win tonight because we have a big family party on Saturday night.
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Post by rickyspanish on Jun 25, 2024 11:37:26 GMT 1
Most reports seem to suggest the only change we will make tonight is Gallagher for Trent.
Will be interesting to see how much that changes the way England play.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jun 25, 2024 11:42:16 GMT 1
As well as the Scts, Chris and my good self always got on well with the Germans when we were on holiday for some reason. We spent more time talking with them than the Brits.
So if England don't win, (which they won't with that clown in charge), I'd be pleased to see Germany win it.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 25, 2024 12:30:49 GMT 1
Yep...hope austria win tonight too....very good team,and have worked there socks off
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Post by harboroughshrew on Jun 25, 2024 16:35:50 GMT 1
Most reports seem to suggest the only change we will make tonight is Gallagher for Trent. Will be interesting to see how much that changes the way England play. It would be a shame if Southgate did not also make a change on the left - apparently in the Denmark game we did not put a single cross in from that side. Kane always plays best with two fast forwards in the mould of Rashford/Sterling either side of him - surely Gordon (who has impressed at U21 level for England) must come in on that side.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 25, 2024 16:51:00 GMT 1
Looking forward to watching austria
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Post by chirkshrew on Jun 25, 2024 18:57:38 GMT 1
Well done Austria again....desire and organisation 😃😃
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Post by Pilch on Jun 25, 2024 19:01:32 GMT 1
so france finish the group with just 2 goals, a penalty and an own goal
dutch finish 3rd
Italy like France only win once
Belgium joint bottom ;-)
Croatia 2 points
no many comments this week of why cant England be like ( insert side here ). ;-)
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