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Post by mattmw on May 10, 2024 17:36:23 GMT 1
Not seen in mentioned elsewhere but referenced it on the AGM thread. Radio Shropshire tweeted earlier today that Shrewsbury Town CEO Liam Dooley talks "accounts, budgets and the clubs future..." at 6pm on Friday on the station bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0hqghg8Not sure how much will be revealed or if it includes a phone in Q&A but might be worth a listen |
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Post by mattmw on May 10, 2024 18:24:07 GMT 1
Interview is with Dooley in two halves rest to follow in 20 minutes time but inital points are
- Club finances are a concern and will take time to address
- Main reason for over spend in 22/23 was due to playing budget, but also post Covid income loss and fact Premier League grant was budgeted for but wasn't paid
- Seems DofF role is staying and other staff now in place to tackle budget deficit
- Chairman and other Director continuing to subsidise the budget in 23/24
- Playing budget for 24/25 is much more in line with making the club sustainable (my interpretation lot lower than last season)
- No clear mention of new investment on the horizon, but have had some Expressions of interest but nothing moved beyond that stage, but hopeful Premer League grant will come through and help cover some of the losses
Part 2
- Asked on how new income streams are going and says sponsorship for 24/25 is key. No other new income streams mentioned
- Main focus of club is on looking for Hurst and DoF to recruit "and find some gems".
- Reiterated that the budget is set to be sustainable and acknowledged that season will be "tough" and "challenging"
- Club are pleased with how last seasons reorganisation went and think its best base for sustainable future
Overall thought Dooley spoke very well and handled the questions very well without committing too much. Good addition to the club and seems well informed about the all aspects of the club.
But overall feeling of the interview that the coming season (maybe seasons) will be a very tough one but the club are very happy with the coach/DoF set up they have now and feel its best way to move to more secure future
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Post by vladimir on May 10, 2024 18:42:14 GMT 1
Doesn't seem wise to budget against anything the premier league say they will do.
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Post by ssshrew on May 10, 2024 18:55:46 GMT 1
Thank you Matt for the summing up.
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Post by mattmw on May 10, 2024 19:01:44 GMT 1
Thank you Matt for the summing up. Think it will be available on play back on BBC Sounds shortly if people want to listen back. Be interested in how others interpreted the interview |
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Post by Bob Rickerton on May 10, 2024 19:02:48 GMT 1
He's a good communicator and seems like a decent guy. That was an honest interview, but not one that's making me particularly enthused for next season though.
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Post by salopleaker on May 10, 2024 19:11:53 GMT 1
Speaks really well, but I took from that, we are screwed, without further investment
Unsustainable for chairman and others to keep throwing in money, that said it makes no sense to retain a DOF when we have a capable manager.
I feel for the commercial team (is it a team?) as a lot is being out on their shoulders after years of neglect towards local businesses by the club. Who’s our fan engagement officer now that the girls from the foundation have left?
Really tough season ahead, let’s hope we can all unite behind a side who will no doubt need to be up for a proper scrap
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2024 19:14:50 GMT 1
Depressing to hear but appreciate the honesty. Not sure why the club couldn’t put something similar out themselves a few weeks ago though.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2024 19:24:10 GMT 1
Depressing to hear but appreciate the honesty. Not sure why the club couldn’t put something similar out themselves a few weeks ago though. Perhaps they didn't want to scare off season ticket renewals? |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2024 19:39:48 GMT 1
Still losing money, that's worrying.
New investment, "nothing imminent"....
An honest interview but my goodness, the sustainability of the club is of a real concern.
The CEO has heck of a lot of confidence in the Director of Football, I hope that confidence is not misplaced.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on May 10, 2024 19:40:59 GMT 1
We are heading straight for league 2 unless we find investment/new owners quickly.
That’s the sad reality
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Post by floreatsalopia1 on May 10, 2024 19:45:43 GMT 1
Speaks really well, but I from that, we are screwed, without further investment Unsustainable for chairman and others to keep throwing in money, that said it makes no sense to retain a DOF when we have a capable manager. I feel for the commercial team (is it a team?) as a lot is being out on their shoulders after years of neglect towards local businesses by the club. Who’s our fan engagement officer now that the girls from the foundation have left? Really tough season ahead, let’s hope we can all unite behind a side who will no doubt need to be up for a proper scrap The fan engagement officer is Pauline Newton who was working for the club as safeguarding lead . She decided to leave but then wanted the fan job.. |
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Post by vladimir on May 10, 2024 20:16:15 GMT 1
No mention that the club will recieve more income via the new TV deal?
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 10, 2024 21:01:04 GMT 1
We are heading straight for league 2 unless we find investment/new owners quickly. That’s the sad reality Think I tend to agree, but is it sad or just finding a more sustainable level after struggling to compete for years in league one? Town have relatively overachieved to keep remaining in league one year on year given the size of the club compared to those around |
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Post by suttonshrew on May 10, 2024 21:03:44 GMT 1
Well this is cheering me up 😂
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Post by vladimir on May 10, 2024 21:06:20 GMT 1
We are heading straight for league 2 unless we find investment/new owners quickly. That’s the sad reality Think I tend to agree, but is it sad or just finding a more sustainable level after struggling to compete for years in league one? Town have relatively overachieved to keep remaining in league one year on year given the size of the club compared to those around Posted on another thread but since we returned to League 1 our attendances put us comfortably mid table usually between 14-16th. This season just gone was our worst (19th). www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/attendances |
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Post by ProudSalopian on May 10, 2024 21:06:24 GMT 1
We are heading straight for league 2 unless we find investment/new owners quickly. That’s the sad reality Think I tend to agree, but is it sad or just finding a more sustainable level after struggling to compete for years in league one? Town have relatively overachieved to keep remaining in league one year on year given the size of the club compared to those around Is that true? We clearly aren't a giant by I wouldn't say we have over-achieved by staying in this league. Yes you have your ex Premier League sides but look at some of the other sides who finished above us.... Northampton, Wycombe, Leyton Orient, Bristol Rovers, Cambridge, Exeter, Stevenage, Lincoln. I wouldn't say we are punching above our weight just by surviving with these clubs |
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Post by ProudSalopian on May 10, 2024 21:13:11 GMT 1
Fair play to Liam for the interview and painting a realistic picture, despite how painful it is
This has the feeling of when Roland first over, slashing the budget, all about simply surviving and hoping that we strike lucky with a gem to sell on and/or money coming from other sources, e.g tv/premier league deals.
As depressing as it sounds, it already feels like that if we stay up next season, it will be one hell of an achievement. It will be interesting to see how many casual fans are willing to pay £26 per match to watch whatever gets served up
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2024 21:20:38 GMT 1
Fair play to Liam for the interview and painting a realistic picture, despite how painful it is This has the feeling of when Roland first over, slashing the budget, all about simply surviving and hoping that we strike lucky with a gem to sell on and/or money coming from other sources, e.g tv/premier league tables. As depressing as it sounds, it already feels like that if we stay up next season, it will be one hell of an achievement. It will be interesting to see how many casual fans are willing to pay £26 per match to watch whatever gets served up Especially with so many more games being shown on Sky from next season. A few weeks ago we were told season ticket sales were up on last year, I wonder if they still are. |
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Post by suttonshrew on May 10, 2024 22:11:24 GMT 1
It’s been a huge effort to stay up this season. I don’t expect next season to be any different. That said I do expect a well drilled, hard working side the fans will hopefully get behind. That can go a long way at this level
Keep the faith
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 10, 2024 23:00:27 GMT 1
Think I tend to agree, but is it sad or just finding a more sustainable level after struggling to compete for years in league one? Town have relatively overachieved to keep remaining in league one year on year given the size of the club compared to those around Posted on another thread but since we returned to League 1 our attendances put us comfortably mid table usually between 14-16th. This season just gone was our worst (19th). www.footballwebpages.co.uk/league-one/attendancesAnd yet on another thread only a few days ago that were comparing out average attendance from this season and last. This seasons average was less than 100 fewer than the previous season - despite the lack of goals, and standard of entertainment on offer. So if we have dropped down the table with virtually the same attendance figures can only mean that other clubs have managed to increase theirs. |
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Post by pughywasfree on May 11, 2024 6:11:08 GMT 1
Interview is with Dooley in two halves rest to follow in 20 minutes time but inital points are - Club finances are a concern and will take time to address - Main reason for over spend in 22/23 was due to playing budget, but also post Covid income loss and fact Premier League grant was budgeted for but wasn't paid - Seems DofF role is staying and other staff now in place to tackle budget deficit - Chairman and other Director continuing to subsidise the budget in 23/24 - Playing budget for 24/25 is much more in line with making the club sustainable (my interpretation lot lower than last season) - No clear mention of new investment on the horizon, but have had some Expressions of interest but nothing moved beyond that stage, but hopeful Premer League grant will come through and help cover some of the losses Part 2 - Asked on how new income streams are going and says sponsorship for 24/25 is key. No other new income streams mentioned - Main focus of club is on looking for Hurst and DoF to recruit "and find some gems". - Reiterated that the budget is set to be sustainable and acknowledged that season will be "tough" and "challenging" - Club are pleased with how last seasons reorganisation went and think its best base for sustainable future Overall thought Dooley spoke very well and handled the questions very well without committing too much. Good addition to the club and seems well informed about the all aspects of the club. But overall feeling of the interview that the coming season (maybe seasons) will be a very tough one but the club are very happy with the coach/DoF set up they have now and feel its best way to move to more secure future It really was not that difficult was it. Nothing revolutionary but at least we are a bit more in the know now. Time to pull together and back the club. I think most of our energy in the transfer market needs to go towards getting quality fit loan players as that could be the difference between doing a Carlisle and doing a Shrewsbury next season. I am quietly excited about the challenge, backs against the wall battle against the odds. Probably one of the worst times to slash the budget but I'd rather be secure financially. All I ask is to watch a team that gives everything on the pitch. |
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 11, 2024 9:02:19 GMT 1
Think I tend to agree, but is it sad or just finding a more sustainable level after struggling to compete for years in league one? Town have relatively overachieved to keep remaining in league one year on year given the size of the club compared to those around Is that true? We clearly aren't a giant by I wouldn't say we have over-achieved by staying in this league. Yes you have your ex Premier League sides but look at some of the other sides who finished above us.... Northampton, Wycombe, Leyton Orient, Bristol Rovers, Cambridge, Exeter, Stevenage, Lincoln. I wouldn't say we are punching above our weight just by surviving with these clubs I mean surviving for the time we have, not taking a single year. Shrewsbury have been in league one for 10 years. All of those clubs listed have been in League 2 in that time, and some of them for most of it. So in longevity terms we have bettered all of time. That is an achievement, but not sure how long can it continue. Several of those clubs have some quite serious investment too and much bigger attendances. And if you look at league two clubs coming up they have much more financial ability than town |
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 11, 2024 9:09:51 GMT 1
And yet on another thread only a few days ago that were comparing out average attendance from this season and last. This seasons average was less than 100 fewer than the previous season - despite the lack of goals, and standard of entertainment on offer. So if we have dropped down the table with virtually the same attendance figures can only mean that other clubs have managed to increase theirs. Absolutely. And there are some big ones in league two too, 10 sides got more than town (and 3 better in National League as well). So across the EFL I think town averaged in the league two play offs |
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Post by vladimir on May 11, 2024 10:17:39 GMT 1
I do find the constant chimes of the club searching for investment and looking for the succession planning ring pretty hollow when we know at least 3 local supporters who've left the board over the last 10 or so years who may have been able to help contribute targeted investment or bring in investment from further afield.
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Post by wakemanender on May 11, 2024 11:05:26 GMT 1
The CEO was the best signing of the season. Sadly you get the feeling he is too good for us and unlikely to stay too long. Depends a lot on his working relationship with MM but seems to be someone who will work well with the Management team. Good honest Northerners who say it as it is. Confident of a mid table position next season with these people in charge.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2024 11:51:01 GMT 1
The CEO was the best signing of the season. Sadly you get the feeling he is too good for us and unlikely to stay too long. Depends a lot on his working relationship with MM but seems to be someone who will work well with the Management team. Good honest Northerners who say it as it is. Confident of a mid table position next season with these people in charge. I would have thought that the CEO reports directly to the Chairman not the Director of Football. Either way, those working relationships will be crucial if we are to see some light at the end of the tunnel. |
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Post by ProudSalopian on May 13, 2024 12:39:24 GMT 1
I do find the constant chimes of the club searching for investment and looking for the succession planning ring pretty hollow when we know at least 3 local supporters who've left the board over the last 10 or so years who may have been able to help contribute targeted investment or bring in investment from further afield. The club have said for a number of years now that Roland is opening to selling and during that time, we were held up as one of the most stable clubs in the country. Add in a new ground & training facillities which we own, and the club were actually in the black with no debt. So, the question is, why have a club who had all that, struggled to attract investment and/or new owners? What makes us so unappealing when clubs across the country, at all levels and in various states, can find new investment/owners? |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2024 12:47:59 GMT 1
I do find the constant chimes of the club searching for investment and looking for the succession planning ring pretty hollow when we know at least 3 local supporters who've left the board over the last 10 or so years who may have been able to help contribute targeted investment or bring in investment from further afield. The club have said for a number of years now that Roland is opening to selling and during that time, we were held up as one of the most stable clubs in the country. Add in a new ground & training facillities which we own, and the club were actually in the black with no debt. So, the question is, why have a club who had all that, struggled to attract investment and/or new owners? What makes us so unappealing when clubs across the country, at all levels and in various states, can find new investment/owners? Perhaps the conditions of the sale, price etc have put prospective buyers off? Alternatively, has the Chairman really been serious about selling up in recent years? |
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