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Post by camdenshrew on Apr 22, 2024 9:36:08 GMT 1
Definitely worth a new contract. He's about the only person in our squad with any pace or trickery. Yes, he's raw but with the right coaching could be a real asset.
Under Hurst, he's shown he can perform against decent sides like Bolton and Derby and I think could progress well given more time.
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 22, 2024 10:09:24 GMT 1
He has got a thread all of his own and the supporters appear divided. Got to be worth a punt for a season when the phrase cheap with promise is going to be what its all about. It could backfire and we get relegated but it could also work in our favour with a mid table finish and two or three players worth a bob or two. Not in favour of loan players personally. I would much rather us go for players like this where if it is successful we get the benefit financially.
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Apr 22, 2024 10:34:22 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on Apr 22, 2024 10:34:22 GMT 1
He has got a thread all of his own and the supporters appear divided. Got to be worth a punt for a season when the phrase cheap with promise is going to be what its all about. It could backfire and we get relegated but it could also work in our favour with a mid table finish and two or three players worth a bob or two. Not in favour of loan players personally. I would much rather us go for players like this where if it is successful we get the benefit financially. I think the biggest worry for some is he's from the league of Ireland and could turn out to be a good signing, so better get rid now just in case
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Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 22, 2024 11:31:33 GMT 1
He has got a thread all of his own and the supporters appear divided. Got to be worth a punt for a season when the phrase cheap with promise is going to be what its all about. It could backfire and we get relegated but it could also work in our favour with a mid table finish and two or three players worth a bob or two. Not in favour of loan players personally. I would much rather us go for players like this where if it is successful we get the benefit financially. I agree. That's the club's strategy (last time I looked) to develop young players that could net us a decent transfer fee further down the line. I remain hopeful that we will see an academy player or two step in the next few seasons too.
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Apr 22, 2024 11:35:29 GMT 1
Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 22, 2024 11:35:29 GMT 1
To those saying he's not good enough dont forget we were saying the same about Udoh a few years ago. Became a decent player with decent coaching. We could have just cast him aside as 'not good enough'. Whilst that is true, it is the exception. I suspect most players who get written off as not good enough by a lot percentage of the fanbase are because they are not good enough and do not develop like Udoh did. I hope I'm proven wrong (like I was with Udoh)
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Apr 22, 2024 12:00:23 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 22, 2024 12:00:23 GMT 1
To those saying he's not good enough dont forget we were saying the same about Udoh a few years ago. Became a decent player with decent coaching. We could have just cast him aside as 'not good enough'. Whilst that is true, it is the exception. I suspect most players who get written off as not good enough by a lot percentage of the fanbase are because they are not good enough and do not develop like Udoh did. I hope I'm proven wrong (like I was with Udoh) Yes, they wont all work out like Udoh but unless you persevere a bit with them you wont know. And with finances as they are (alegedly) I think Hursts hands will be tied into using players like this maybe more than he would like to.
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Post by vladimir on Apr 22, 2024 12:22:53 GMT 1
Think a couple of above average performances are clouding the judgments to the utter dross produced prior.
I'd love to be proven wrong but he's a full back who can't defend, a wing back with substandard positional sense and a winger with little end product.
I'd like to think we could do better.
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 22, 2024 13:07:18 GMT 1
He has got a thread all of his own and the supporters appear divided. Got to be worth a punt for a season when the phrase cheap with promise is going to be what it’s all about. It could backfire and we get relegated but it could also work in our favour with a mid table finish and two or three players worth a bob or two. Not in favour of loan players personally. I would much rather us go for players like this where if it is successful we get the benefit financially. I agree. That's the club's strategy (last time I looked) to develop young players that could net us a decent transfer fee further down the line. I remain hopeful that we will see an academy player or two step in the next few seasons too. Remember Alan Hansen’s advice though - “you can’t win anything with kids!”
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 22, 2024 13:27:50 GMT 1
What's all this league of Ireland thing???🤔Lincoln got 2/3 players from there,and they've done well for them.... sobowale only been here 12 mths,give the lad a chance ffs
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Apr 22, 2024 14:24:09 GMT 1
What's all this Championship thing???🤔 Oxford got 2/3 players from there,and they've done well for them.... bayliss only been here 12 mths whn I started slagging him off,give the lad a chance ffs
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Apr 22, 2024 14:32:27 GMT 1
Post by tarporleyblue on Apr 22, 2024 14:32:27 GMT 1
Macaulay Langstaff is a great example of a striker who has come from non league and done very well, indeed.
Exploring the non leagues for potential talent is hopefully something that we are doing under this new structure.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 22, 2024 16:28:13 GMT 1
He's a guy that can run with the ball well, would likely make a good full back in a 442 formation but like a lot of full backs will never get anywhere near the goal and so his finishing may not be needed. I think the opposite. I think he's got a chance at a version of wing back because he's got cover. He's no defender.
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Post by mullersalopian on Apr 22, 2024 22:11:27 GMT 1
Every time I listen to a away commentary team he is one mentioned the most for strength and speed and often our best player, think it was Oxford they said if you're Shrewsbury surely just pass it o sobo, for a Irish player he's doing very well
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Apr 23, 2024 8:22:56 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 23, 2024 8:22:56 GMT 1
He is a nightmare for defenders, with his pace and tricks, What he needs is some composure when gets to the point of passing the ball and especially in front of goal were he has missed some easy chances, I think it is a mixture of confidence
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 23, 2024 8:23:06 GMT 1
He is a nightmare for defenders, with his pace and tricks, What he needs is some composure when gets to the point of passing the ball and especially in front of goal were he has missed some easy chances, I think it is a mixture of confidence and he needs to have a coach who just gets him to keep it simple and in the pre season to drill him into doing certain things untill it becomes muscle memory. When you are inexperienced and low on confidence you can overthink things and mess up. He is only exciting player in the squad I hope we keep him.
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Apr 25, 2024 15:22:11 GMT 1
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Post by akpaakpost on Apr 25, 2024 15:22:11 GMT 1
Whilst I accept he’s quick and entertaining, I’d only keep him if his wages were extremely minimal, for a start he’s not even that young, he can’t defend so we can’t put him in a back 4/5, and he can’t pass or shoot effectively so he can’t go as a forward. I get the comparisons to Udoh on the face of it but Udoh’s general game was actually quite rounded at the start and I remember him being a useful hold up player in his first season. I’ve been to a couple National league north games this season and I’ve seen players at both full back and on the wings that are worth more of a punt for a year than Sobowale. He’d sadly be the last player on my retain list over the summer.
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Post by chameleon on Apr 25, 2024 15:30:53 GMT 1
Seems to go past a couple of players then run into trouble. Not sure about his end product.
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Post by secretshrew on Apr 25, 2024 16:00:18 GMT 1
Didn’t Micky Brown make a career of doing that?! 😉
I think we’re expecting a lot of him in his first season in the EFL. He’s obviously got something about him for both Taylor & Hirst to have played him a few times beyond other seasoned pros. That’s good enough for me! He offers something different to what we’ve got too.
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Apr 25, 2024 16:24:49 GMT 1
Post by Mortgagehound on Apr 25, 2024 16:24:49 GMT 1
They used to say this about Alan Groves when he first came to Town. Turned out to be the best winger we ever had
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Apr 25, 2024 16:55:27 GMT 1
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Post by armchairfan on Apr 25, 2024 16:55:27 GMT 1
They used to say this about Alan Groves when he first came to Town. Turned out to be the best winger we ever had Not too sure about "the best winger" bit, but for excitement, really, seriously good....CHAAARGE!
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Apr 25, 2024 17:14:40 GMT 1
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Post by belfastshrew on Apr 25, 2024 17:14:40 GMT 1
Seems to go past a couple of players then run into trouble. Not sure about his end product. If he had the end product he would be in the Prem. Don't go setting the bar too high 🤣
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Apr 25, 2024 17:23:55 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Apr 25, 2024 17:23:55 GMT 1
They used to say this about Alan Groves when he first came to Town. Turned out to be the best winger we ever had some people think Sam Aiston is the best winger we've ever had , sobowale already better than him I think 😝
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Apr 25, 2024 17:36:12 GMT 1
Post by darkshrew on Apr 25, 2024 17:36:12 GMT 1
They used to say this about Alan Groves when he first came to Town. Turned out to be the best winger we ever had Groves was just before my time - I think Paul Maguire was the best winger I saw play for us.
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Post by armchairfan on Apr 25, 2024 17:52:01 GMT 1
They used to say this about Alan Groves when he first came to Town. Turned out to be the best winger we ever had Groves was just before my time - I think Paul Maguire was the best winger I saw play for us. As one of those doddery old chaps, I had the great pleasure of seeing Groves Maguire and Jim McLaughlin (in both his spells) in full cry; Mike Kenning and Dave Roberts weren't slouched either....football was such a simple game back then....I blame Sir Alf Ramsey....lol
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Apr 25, 2024 18:46:03 GMT 1
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Post by philjh on Apr 25, 2024 18:46:03 GMT 1
Saw Jimmy Mac and Colin Whitaker both goal scoring wingers, we've been blessed with some really great wingers, Geoff Ireland, Paul McGuire, Alan Groves, Graham French, then as you say Alf Ramsey kind of messed things up lol.
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Apr 25, 2024 18:47:51 GMT 1
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Post by philjh on Apr 25, 2024 18:47:51 GMT 1
And of course Mickey Brown.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Apr 25, 2024 19:37:30 GMT 1
Dave Roberts was excellent and is always in my team of town greats. As regards Tunmise I'm in the Keep him camp. There is a player there imo
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Apr 25, 2024 20:40:02 GMT 1
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Post by philjh on Apr 25, 2024 20:40:02 GMT 1
Also Mike Kenning, Arthur Rowley says !!
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Apr 25, 2024 20:40:23 GMT 1
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Post by philjh on Apr 25, 2024 20:40:23 GMT 1
Days
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