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Post by Pilch on Apr 16, 2024 22:28:27 GMT 1
ok its been mentioned many many times today on the forum, only fair we run with it scary that 3 points might still not be enough
so cheltenham 41 points , are 6 points behind and 3 games left, 2 at home
H v Lincoln on sat H v Pboro on tue A v Stevenage Sat
Burton 43 points
H sat Reading A Sat Fleetwood
Cambs 46 points
H Derby H Wycombe A Port Vale
Town 47 points
A charlton H Orient
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Post by harboroughshrew on Apr 17, 2024 9:25:15 GMT 1
As has been said elsewhere the Burton game on Saturday is the most important result to look for as we need to match or better their result to stay up. Alternatively we could be safe after Tuesday if Cheltenham drop enough points over their next two games. It would be nice to go into the Orient game being safe as we can then all relax a bit and hopefully the players can produce a decent performance and get a nice end-of-season reception as I suspect an awful lot of them will not be with us next year.
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 17, 2024 9:39:53 GMT 1
As has been said elsewhere the Burton game on Saturday is the most important result to look for as we need to match or better their result to stay up. Alternatively we could be safe after Tuesday if Cheltenham drop enough points over their next two games. It would be nice to go into the Orient game being safe as we can then all relax a bit and hopefully the players can produce a decent performance and get a nice end-of-season reception as I suspect an awful lot of them will not be with us next year. Think the last thing we need is an end of season celebration. Maybe a polite clap but are we really going to invade the pitch and hold the players aloft in front of a waving smiling Roland?
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Apr 17, 2024 10:02:53 GMT 1
As has been said elsewhere the Burton game on Saturday is the most important result to look for as we need to match or better their result to stay up. Alternatively we could be safe after Tuesday if Cheltenham drop enough points over their next two games. It would be nice to go into the Orient game being safe as we can then all relax a bit and hopefully the players can produce a decent performance and get a nice end-of-season reception as I suspect an awful lot of them will not be with us next year. Think the last thing we need is an end of season celebration. Maybe a polite clap but are we really going to invade the pitch and hold the players aloft in front of a waving smiling Roland? Junior Brown sent the Vale down. How does that chant from Hurst volume one make you feel?
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Post by MartinB on Apr 17, 2024 10:44:26 GMT 1
In their last twelve games Cheltenham have won twice, beating Fleetwood and Burton.
Realistically are they then going to win 3 of last 4 games including beating two of Stevenage, Peterborough and Lincoln?
I really can't see that happening
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Post by harboroughshrew on Apr 17, 2024 11:48:56 GMT 1
As has been said elsewhere the Burton game on Saturday is the most important result to look for as we need to match or better their result to stay up. Alternatively we could be safe after Tuesday if Cheltenham drop enough points over their next two games. It would be nice to go into the Orient game being safe as we can then all relax a bit and hopefully the players can produce a decent performance and get a nice end-of-season reception as I suspect an awful lot of them will not be with us next year. Think the last thing we need is an end of season celebration. Maybe a polite clap but are we really going to invade the pitch and hold the players aloft in front of a waving smiling Roland? I was not suggesting anything along the lines you mentioned - just an acknowledgement of the players efforts this season which has been a difficult one for both the club and the supporters.
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Post by servernaside on Apr 17, 2024 15:32:13 GMT 1
In their last twelve games Cheltenham have won twice, beating Fleetwood and Burton. Realistically are they then going to win 3 of last 4 games including beating two of Stevenage, Peterborough and Lincoln? I really can't see that happening Anything in football is possible. This is not over until it's over.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 17, 2024 17:28:50 GMT 1
Never realised till this season just how many pessimists we have as supporters.
We are not 99% safe because of our own doing for sure. we are 99% safe because those around us are even worse than we are.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 17, 2024 18:09:51 GMT 1
As has been said elsewhere the Burton game on Saturday is the most important result to look for as we need to match or better their result to stay up. Alternatively we could be safe after Tuesday if Cheltenham drop enough points over their next two games. It would be nice to go into the Orient game being safe as we can then all relax a bit and hopefully the players can produce a decent performance and get a nice end-of-season reception as I suspect an awful lot of them will not be with us next year. Think the last thing we need is an end of season celebration. Maybe a polite clap but are we really going to invade the pitch and hold the players aloft in front of a waving smiling Roland? No ,if we do stay up for me relief after a dreadful season.
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Post by MetaShrew on Apr 17, 2024 19:55:17 GMT 1
Never realised till this season just how many pessimists we have as supporters. We are not 99% safe because of our own doing for sure. we are 99% safe because those around us are even worse than we are. We pessimists have quite a dataset to draw on: 2007: play-off final fail 2009: play-off final fail 2011: play-off semi-final fail 2014: relegation fail 2018: EFL Trophy fail 2018: automatic promotion fail 2018: play-off final fail – and that's just in the last 17 years of supporting Town! However... I think we are going to be okay.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 17, 2024 20:12:08 GMT 1
Never realised till this season just how many pessimists we have as supporters. We are not 99% safe because of our own doing for sure. we are 99% safe because those around us are even worse than we are. We pessimists have quite a dataset to draw on: 2007: play-off final fail 2009: play-off final fail 2011: play-off semi-final fail 2014: relegation fail 2018: EFL Trophy fail 2018: automatic promotion fail 2018: play-off final fail – and that's just in the last 17 years of supporting Town! However... I think we are going to be okay. I think the biggest fail was 2002/3 where we had about 6 games to make up over several of the teams above us where we only needed to win 3 or 4. We won NONE of them from the end of Feb (usually playing 3 per week). Now that IS some failure. And yes I was there, saying "we will be fine" right up to the end. And I've not been overly concerned about our position over these last few weeks. We ARE going to be ok, mostly due to the rest of the teams around us are amazingly even worse than we are.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 18, 2024 5:27:13 GMT 1
Never realised till this season just how many pessimists we have as supporters. We are not 99% safe because of our own doing for sure. we are 99% safe because those around us are even worse than we are.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 18, 2024 5:34:24 GMT 1
Never realised till this season just how many pessimists we have as supporters. We are not 99% safe because of our own doing for sure. we are 99% safe because those around us are even worse than we are. It is all about perspective towards the end of Taylor's time in charge the level of apathy on the board was high, then we got Hurst and we had a brief lift in mood but even he could not make a silk purse out of this lot. Ou dreadful home form and how tight things were getting and pessimism sets in. Somthing has to change at the club, we need to find a more sustainable way of running the club, combined with actually developing the squad, rather than a revolving door of managers with a period of rebuilding before we start all over again
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Post by secretshrew on Apr 18, 2024 6:57:31 GMT 1
I’m trying to think if there has been a recent team who got relegated having not been in the bottom 4 until the last day of the season? I’m pretty sure this has happened but can’t remember who. I’m in the ‘we’re not safe until we’re mathematically safe’ camp.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 18, 2024 8:20:08 GMT 1
What makes it harder to predict is towns eratic and unpredictable form, we have had far to many below par performances with a lack of any fighting spirit the Wycombe game was a prime example, then we drew against Bolton were you would expect us to be thrashed as they had 7 points out of a possible 9 with a draw against the top club and a 5 _ 2 win over Reading.
It is so frustrating to watch the clubs eratic performance and it must drive Hurst nuts
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 18, 2024 9:38:31 GMT 1
Not having a dig at anyone, but it's funny how posters can interpret other's posts: A reception for the players, who haven't always been awful and may well be leaving, is interpreted as a celebration. Pointing out that if, by some miracle, a team can catch us if they win all their games is interpreted as pessimism. Just saying.
The revolving door of managers? I think the Hurst appointment can end that. But not many managers last long anywhere these days. Anyone got any stats that show those clubs who have faith in their manager through the good and the bad times are more successful? Thinking of your Wengers, Ferrgusons and yes, Klopp.
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on Apr 18, 2024 9:53:56 GMT 1
Only reason it’s still mathematically uncertain is down to the miserable total of goals we have, scandalous we have -30 and lowest number of goals in the EFL. Embarrassing.
That said, win Saturday or against Orient and I just can’t see us even close to bottom 4 with 50 points. Unfathomable.
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Post by staffordshrew on Apr 18, 2024 10:03:36 GMT 1
Only reason it’s still mathematically uncertain is down to the miserable total of goals we have, scandalous we have -30 and lowest number of goals in the EFL. Embarrassing. That said, win Saturday or against Orient and I just can’t see us even close to bottom 4 with 50 points. Unfathomable. Which leaves our good solid mid league 1 club just two games away from potential disaster, that's unacceptable.
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Post by uttoxbrewer on Apr 19, 2024 0:52:58 GMT 1
I’m trying to think if there has been a recent team who got relegated having not been in the bottom 4 until the last day of the season? I’m pretty sure this has happened but can’t remember who. I’m in the ‘we’re not safe until we’re mathematically safe’ camp. This happened to York City in 98/99 relegated from the third tier, they only fell into the relegation places for the first time in something like the last eight minutes of the season and got relegated. This often gets overlooked as was the same day as the last minute Jimmy Glass goal that saved Carlisle being relegated to the Conference. Also in 2002/03 (our first season in the Conference) Southport who were fourth in December, got relegated after falling into the relegation places for the first time for the last twenty minutes of the season. If you get a few minutes have a look to see how close the bottom half of the Conference finished in 2002/03. We finished what looks like a relatively comfortable 14th position but if we’d have lost one of the Boxing Day/NYD matches against Nuneaton (we won both) we’d have been relegated instead. Fine margins and all that. Anyway, you’ll be fine now on 47 points so congratulations on staying up. After Tuesday night I’m not so sure we’ll be playing you next season. One of us, Cheltenham or Port Vale will be staying up but don’t know how many last chances we all need. Will be going to the last day for at least two of us.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 19, 2024 22:02:45 GMT 1
After tonight's Oxford v Stevenage (1-1 draw) Lincoln now know that a win tomorrow at Cheltenham will definately put them into the last play off spot going into the final game next week. A draw wont be enough.
Come on Lincoln, you can do it 😉
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Post by Pilch on Apr 19, 2024 22:09:57 GMT 1
After tonight's Oxford v Stevenage (1-1 draw) Lincoln now know that a win tomorrow at Cheltenham will definately put them into the last play off spot going into the final game next week. A draw wont be enough. Come on Lincoln, you can do it 😉 Just watched it , Stevenage zero shots on target , only 2 shots all game and yet still scored
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 19, 2024 22:20:33 GMT 1
After tonight's Oxford v Stevenage (1-1 draw) Lincoln now know that a win tomorrow at Cheltenham will definately put them into the last play off spot going into the final game next week. A draw wont be enough. Come on Lincoln, you can do it 😉 Just watched it , Stevenage zero shots on target , only 2 shots all game and yet still scored But if the opposition scores an og for you.....
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