Beefy
Midland League Division Two
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Post by Beefy on Mar 29, 2024 21:12:18 GMT 1
What the devil is going on? The last 2 home games on the 85th minutes a full plethora of stewards have stood all along block 1 and 2. This doesn’t happen on any other part of he ground. I’d have thought the good folk of 1 & 2 would be the last to “kick off” about anything . Anyone have an explanation ?
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 29, 2024 21:14:03 GMT 1
What the devil is going on? The last 2 home games on the 85th minutes a full plethora of stewards have stood all along block 1 and 2. This doesn’t happen on any other part of he ground. I’d have thought the good folk of 1 & 2 would be the last to “kick off” about anything . Anyone have an explanation ? Not aware of anything - will ask a friend if he knows
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 29, 2024 22:41:45 GMT 1
What the devil is going on? The last 2 home games on the 85th minutes a full plethora of stewards have stood all along block 1 and 2. This doesn’t happen on any other part of he ground. I’d have thought the good folk of 1 & 2 would be the last to “kick off” about anything . Anyone have an explanation ? Does it matter? Whilst one the subject of stewards,id like to praise the stewards and paramedics in the away end who reacted quickly when an Oxford fan had an accident. No idea what happened but they was quick to respond.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 29, 2024 22:45:45 GMT 1
What the devil is going on? The last 2 home games on the 85th minutes a full plethora of stewards have stood all along block 1 and 2. This doesn’t happen on any other part of he ground. I’d have thought the good folk of 1 & 2 would be the last to “kick off” about anything . Anyone have an explanation ? Does it matter? Whilst one the subject of stewards,id like to praise the stewards and paramedics in the away end who reacted quickly when an Oxford fan had an accident. No idea what happened but they was quick to respond. it does matter if they are obstructing the view, its bad enough when they have a genuine reason to do so, utterly infuriating if its like beefy suggests it is
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 29, 2024 22:47:11 GMT 1
Perhaps,the stewards are in front of 1 and 2 to catch any of us elderly folk who fall down the stairs because there are no blinking hand rails at the top.
Hmmmm should I start a ‘toilet seat’ type campaign because as sure as eggs are eggs someone will topple one day but who cares they are only fans after all.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 29, 2024 23:13:07 GMT 1
Perhaps,the stewards are in front of 1 and 2 to catch any of us elderly folk who fall down the stairs because there are no blinking hand rails at the top. Hmmmm should I start a ‘toilet seat’ type campaign because as sure as eggs are eggs someone will topple one day but who cares they are only fans after all. this problem was brought up at the meeting back in January 17th the safety officer agrees with you, but im sure he said its too costly the video of the meeting is below www.shrewsburytown.com/news/2024/january/watch-supporters-parliament-meeting/the hand rails question is about 30 mins in
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Beefy
Midland League Division Two
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Post by Beefy on Mar 29, 2024 23:20:44 GMT 1
What the devil is going on? The last 2 home games on the 85th minutes a full plethora of stewards have stood all along block 1 and 2. This doesn’t happen on any other part of he ground. I’d have thought the good folk of 1 & 2 would be the last to “kick off” about anything . Anyone have an explanation ? Does it matter? Whilst one the subject of stewards,id like to praise the stewards and paramedics in the away end who reacted quickly when an Oxford fan had an accident. No idea what happened but they was quick to respond. It just struck me as very odd
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 29, 2024 23:37:48 GMT 1
Perhaps,the stewards are in front of 1 and 2 to catch any of us elderly folk who fall down the stairs because there are no blinking hand rails at the top. Hmmmm should I start a ‘toilet seat’ type campaign because as sure as eggs are eggs someone will topple one day but who cares they are only fans after all. Get it going, some of us could pretend it's the first we've heard about it after a decade 🤡
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Post by Pilch on Mar 29, 2024 23:39:51 GMT 1
Perhaps,the stewards are in front of 1 and 2 to catch any of us elderly folk who fall down the stairs because there are no blinking hand rails at the top. Hmmmm should I start a ‘toilet seat’ type campaign because as sure as eggs are eggs someone will topple one day but who cares they are only fans after all. Get it going, some of us could pretend it's the first we've heard about it after a decade 🤡 and there was me trying to help out a member and you turn up to cause unnecessary trouble, dont you ever let up stalking me on every thread ?, you really are becoming a nuisance, maybe you could pretend safety rails have been discussed every week for a thousand years , having just checked, you for one never uttered the words 'toilet seat' on this forum until after they were finally installed, so maybe stop pretending you are something you are not
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 30, 2024 0:25:03 GMT 1
Perhaps,the stewards are in front of 1 and 2 to catch any of us elderly folk who fall down the stairs because there are no blinking hand rails at the top. Hmmmm should I start a ‘toilet seat’ type campaign because as sure as eggs are eggs someone will topple one day but who cares they are only fans after all. this problem was brought up at the meeting back in January 17th the safety officer agrees with you, but im sure he said its too costly the video of the meeting is below www.shrewsburytown.com/news/2024/january/watch-supporters-parliament-meeting/the hand rails question is about 30 mins in If it's a safety issue I'm not sure how cost relates.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 0:41:40 GMT 1
If it's a safety issue I'm not sure how cost relates. I agree but its likely not a requirement
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 30, 2024 4:57:01 GMT 1
I guess when an accident happens they will do something. I understand there is a rail at the end of the west stand for those who need it. Can’t they do the same in the east? It would be better than nothing. Given the average age of those in block two particularly I would have thought it was vital.
If we can keep paying off managers and employing players who then go out on loan for months at a time then I would have thought fan safety would be a doddle.
As I say I hope they keep the payments up on their public insurance because an accident could be more expensive in the long run.
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 30, 2024 8:39:12 GMT 1
I'd be happy to contribute to a crowd funder for hand rails. I imagine it can be quite scary for those with balance issues. It is another step towards being inclusive. No doubt fans have been put off or forced to have a low view due to the steps. I know I could have used them a few times when I have enjoyed Smithy's a bit too much.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 30, 2024 8:54:41 GMT 1
It is very scary trying to get down with only a wall to press against.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 30, 2024 8:58:50 GMT 1
What the devil is going on? The last 2 home games on the 85th minutes a full plethora of stewards have stood all along block 1 and 2. This doesn’t happen on any other part of he ground. I’d have thought the good folk of 1 & 2 would be the last to “kick off” about anything . Anyone have an explanation ? It happens every game in the South Stand, Stewards called down about 5 mins before the end, squat down but hop over the advertising g hoards at the final whistle..main reason is fans leave their seats and stand between seats and advertising about 5 mins before the end.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 30, 2024 9:00:47 GMT 1
Perhaps,the stewards are in front of 1 and 2 to catch any of us elderly folk who fall down the stairs because there are no blinking hand rails at the top. Hmmmm should I start a ‘toilet seat’ type campaign because as sure as eggs are eggs someone will topple one day but who cares they are only fans after all. I agree it’s tricky coming down, I feel unsafe at times but it’s the same as every other stadium….. Cant think of any with rails down the isles?
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lloyd
Shropshire County League
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Post by lloyd on Mar 30, 2024 9:41:22 GMT 1
Rails would definitely be beneficial all the way up the aisles - even if it was just one or two blocks to start with and then go from there if £ is an issue for safety.. My grandad has cancer and has stopped going to the matches because he feels so unsteady on the way down and a burden asking his football family for help. He doesn't want to change seats because we’ve stayed in them seats since I was 6. He might be too unwell at the minute but rails would have kept him going to matches for longer
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 30, 2024 9:46:55 GMT 1
I am in the same position as your grandfather.
Just a rail on the wall at the end of block one would be better than nothing and not, I would have thought, that expensive. I understand there is one in the west stand.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 30, 2024 9:54:52 GMT 1
I guess when an accident happens they will do something. I understand there is a rail at the end of the west stand for those who need it. Can’t they do the same in the east? It would be better than nothing. Given the average age of those in block two particularly I would have thought it was vital. If we can keep paying off managers and employing players who then go out on loan for months at a time then I would have thought fan safety would be a doddle. As I say I hope they keep the payments up on their public insurance because an accident could be more expensive in the long run. Thats being explored by the safety officer, he was getting a price. A difficult subject and I don’t want to upset anyone but if you feel unsteady move lower down the stand, I’m considering doing this. We’re stuck in our ways but we can help ourselves with a bit of thought. I’ve been to pretty well every stadium in the EFL and can’t remember any with safety rails on stairs in the centre of stands and some are much steeper than ours. A difficult one I agree.
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 30, 2024 9:58:37 GMT 1
I guess when an accident happens they will do something. I understand there is a rail at the end of the west stand for those who need it. Can’t they do the same in the east? It would be better than nothing. Given the average age of those in block two particularly I would have thought it was vital. If we can keep paying off managers and employing players who then go out on loan for months at a time then I would have thought fan safety would be a doddle. As I say I hope they keep the payments up on their public insurance because an accident could be more expensive in the long run. Thats being explored by the safety officer, he was getting a price. A difficult subject and I don’t want to upset anyone but if you feel unsteady move lower down the stand, I’m considering doing this. We’re stuck in our ways but we can help ourselves with a bit of thought. I’ve been to pretty well every stadium in the EFL and can’t remember any with safety rails on stairs in the centre of stands and some are much steeper than ours. A difficult one I agree. We was the first to have safe standing when nobody else had it. It would be great if we set a trend for this also. It could be crowd funded. You're talking some steal rods and some bolts, surely it is not going to be silly money.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 30, 2024 10:17:59 GMT 1
I guess when an accident happens they will do something. I understand there is a rail at the end of the west stand for those who need it. Can’t they do the same in the east? It would be better than nothing. Given the average age of those in block two particularly I would have thought it was vital. If we can keep paying off managers and employing players who then go out on loan for months at a time then I would have thought fan safety would be a doddle. As I say I hope they keep the payments up on their public insurance because an accident could be more expensive in the long run. Thats being explored by the safety officer, he was getting a price. A difficult subject and I don’t want to upset anyone but if you feel unsteady move lower down the stand, I’m considering doing this. We’re stuck in our ways but we can help ourselves with a bit of thought. I’ve been to pretty well every stadium in the EFL and can’t remember any with safety rails on stairs in the centre of stands and some are much steeper than ours. A difficult one I agree. Wembley stadium does, certainly in the upper tier which is very steep.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Mar 30, 2024 10:54:22 GMT 1
I guess when an accident happens they will do something. I understand there is a rail at the end of the west stand for those who need it. Can’t they do the same in the east? It would be better than nothing. Given the average age of those in block two particularly I would have thought it was vital. If we can keep paying off managers and employing players who then go out on loan for months at a time then I would have thought fan safety would be a doddle. As I say I hope they keep the payments up on their public insurance because an accident could be more expensive in the long run. Thats being explored by the safety officer, he was getting a price. A difficult subject and I don’t want to upset anyone but if you feel unsteady move lower down the stand, I’m considering doing this. We’re stuck in our ways but we can help ourselves with a bit of thought. I’ve been to pretty well every stadium in the EFL and can’t remember any with safety rails on stairs in the centre of stands and some are much steeper than ours. A difficult one I agree. The rain drives in to the lower seats of blocks 1 and 2. I can do without a good soaking. Plus, I've sat by the same friends since the ground move. I don't want to sit by myself. I agree it's a problem though.
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Post by secretshrew on Mar 30, 2024 11:10:08 GMT 1
Maybe the stewards are starting to recognise the refs are so terrible that even the mildly mannered folks of blocks 1 and 2 might start to raise their voices!!
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 30, 2024 11:13:48 GMT 1
If it's a safety issue I'm not sure how cost relates. It could relate like this: OAP falls, breaks something, sues STFC citing that they knew about the problem, it had been discussed at meetings and agreed it was a safety issue but ruled out on cost. Could cost a lot more then....
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 12:06:19 GMT 1
If it's a safety issue I'm not sure how cost relates. It could relate like this: OAP falls, breaks something, sues STFC citing that they knew about the problem, it had been discussed at meetings and agreed it was a safety issue but ruled out on cost. Could cost a lot more then.... except it wouldn't , if its not a requirement its not a requirement , a lift for a wheelchair is a requirement, likely costs a hell of a lot more money, speaking of requirements, to make these things happen, money is a requirement, thats why im always against the sacking of managers, it leads to cutbacks elsewhere at the fans expense I might have mentioned it many times over the years in the meantime, forget health and safety, lets concentrate on paying Moore off next shall we ( and I'll concentrate on suggesting its not a good idea to get rid of him )
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 30, 2024 12:21:55 GMT 1
I agree with jaytee and driving back to Yorkshire soaking wet isn’t an option for me.
Yest again it boils down to how much the club think of their fans even the old ones.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 30, 2024 12:36:55 GMT 1
If it's a safety issue I'm not sure how cost relates. I assume that they have therefore done a risk assessment and decided that the risk is low? I too am surprised that they have decided that it would be too costly to implement.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 30, 2024 12:43:53 GMT 1
It’s another example of Penny pinching when the place was built. I mean why put one one block and not the others. One rail at each end of each block would have been so easy and sensible. Then if people chose not to use them that’s their problem.
Is the safety officer doing his job if he is allowing the club to dictate what is needed on financial grounds?
Perhaps we should all walk to the Sovereign Suite and exit through there. They’d soon sort it then!
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Post by Valerioch on Mar 30, 2024 13:33:34 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 13:46:17 GMT 1
I've occasionally been a big critic of the stewards on here but thats the harshest dig at a steward ever he didn't stop them celebrating, he could have stood his ground and clotheslined the whole bunch of them had he been a jobsworth thug (he actually backed off to avoid that) , he did amazingly well to handle them without even touching them, no fuss and zero fun was halted, one of the good guys I say speaking of stewards as I was approaching the turnstile the guy in from t of me had a can of coke, the steward informed him he could take it inside, then he nipped into the ground and came back with an empty cup so the guy could open it and take his drink inside
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