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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 23, 2024 10:45:16 GMT 1
He's the owner and chairman isn't he, so who else should be paying his contract? Its what he is there for isn't it? So that's not much of an insight either. But I agree, not a lot said that any Town fan who has followed the club this season doesn't already know. But then I guess we're not going to get too much detail on players we may be targeting or on those who might not be contributing as much as we had hoped. And that's fair enough. We just have to judge him over time when looking to the players brought in, their contribution on the pitch and whether we can turn in a profit on one or two. Time will tell. My impression from that was Roland had to provide an injection (like he did a few years ago with Grandison and JLAA) for the club to be able to afford Price. Who knows though, could just have been that Roland approved the use of funds! Either way, that's what he is there for...👍 Its what chairmen and owners do. For me that kinda goes with the territory. I mean I'm not going to go overboard praising him for doing so considering what we have had to endure this season. Again.
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 23, 2024 10:58:28 GMT 1
He's the owner and chairman isn't he, so who else should be paying his contract? Its what he is there for isn't it? So that's not much of an insight either. But I agree, not a lot said that any Town fan who has followed the club this season doesn't already know. But then I guess we're not going to get too much detail on players we may be targeting or on those who might not be contributing as much as we had hoped. And that's fair enough. We just have to judge him over time when looking to the players brought in, their contribution on the pitch and whether we can turn in a profit on one or two. Time will tell. My impression from that was Roland had to provide an injection (like he did a few years ago with Grandison and JLAA) for the club to be able to afford Price. Who knows though, could just have been that Roland approved the use of funds! It's what he's there for, he's the owner.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 23, 2024 10:59:17 GMT 1
I assume that's sarcastic, who else would you expect to pay our players wages? I assumed there must be some difference to the normal, which would be for Shrewsbury Town Football Club Ltd. to be paying?
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 23, 2024 11:10:37 GMT 1
I assume that's sarcastic, who else would you expect to pay our players wages? I assumed there must be some difference to the normal, which would be for Shrewsbury Town Football Club Ltd. to be paying? Presume the finances will show cash injections? He can't just pay him in cash or IOUs 👍
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Post by vladimir on Mar 23, 2024 11:11:53 GMT 1
I note he made absolutely zero mention of the loan signings made prior to Hursts arrival.
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Post by shrewdshrewssupporter on Mar 23, 2024 11:12:24 GMT 1
My impression from that was Roland had to provide an injection (like he did a few years ago with Grandison and JLAA) for the club to be able to afford Price. Who knows though, could just have been that Roland approved the use of funds! Either way, that's what he is there for...👍 Its what chairmen and owners do. For me that kinda goes with the territory. I mean I'm not going to go overboard praising him for doing so considering what we have had to endure this season. Again. No praise necessarily given from me, but thought it worth noting - not every owner does put cash injections in. Personally I wouldn't expect Roland (or any owner) to be injecting cash into the club. There are many ways to raise money if a business is short, lots of which would come with rather more disadvantages for the club and no personal cost to the owner. Maybe these things shouldn't be praised but they probably shouldn't also be taken for granted. Regardless hopefully we can all enjoy a decent player that helps keep us in the division ahead of a big rebuild next season!
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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2024 11:47:30 GMT 1
heres a review of the Moore update reviews ,
= the perfect example of confirmation bias ;-)
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 23, 2024 11:51:07 GMT 1
Either way, that's what he is there for...👍 Its what chairmen and owners do. For me that kinda goes with the territory. I mean I'm not going to go overboard praising him for doing so considering what we have had to endure this season. Again. No praise necessarily given from me, but thought it worth noting - not every owner does put cash injections in. Personally I wouldn't expect Roland (or any owner) to be injecting cash into the club. There are many ways to raise money if a business is short, lots of which would come with rather more disadvantages for the club and no personal cost to the owner. Maybe these things shouldn't be praised but they probably shouldn't also be taken for granted. Regardless hopefully we can all enjoy a decent player that helps keep us in the division ahead of a big rebuild next season! Go ahead and praise him, apparently he's put money in when he didn't have to. Maybe a team with Price in, AO'B starting to show something, maybe some of the upcoming ones tried out and Hurst managing can put a hundred or two on the gate in the run up to the end of the season.
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Mar 23, 2024 11:54:51 GMT 1
I would go as far as to say that RW has put money in when he's not used to doing so,.....and boy has he made absolutely sure that everyone is aware🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2024 11:56:29 GMT 1
No praise necessarily given from me, but thought it worth noting - not every owner does put cash injections in. Personally I wouldn't expect Roland (or any owner) to be injecting cash into the club. There are many ways to raise money if a business is short, lots of which would come with rather more disadvantages for the club and no personal cost to the owner. Maybe these things shouldn't be praised but they probably shouldn't also be taken for granted. Regardless hopefully we can all enjoy a decent player that helps keep us in the division ahead of a big rebuild next season! Go ahead and praise him, apparently he's put money in when he didn't have to. Maybe a team with Price in, AO'B starting to show something, maybe some of the upcoming ones tried out and Hurst managing can put a hundred or two on the gate in the run up to the end of the season. this time of the season a relegation battle would put more on the gate than a few wins, as far as Price goes, there are not many of the 92 who ever bring in a new signing mid march when it seems they are virtually safe, how's that for ambition !
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Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 23, 2024 11:58:47 GMT 1
A nondescript article, but perhaps that's all we could and should expect from a Director of Football.
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 23, 2024 12:02:32 GMT 1
Strikes me as damage limitation.
Max Mata a 1 in 3 striker wow. Isn't it more like 1 in 27.
Its Dan Udoh who's been 1 in 3 since Hurst arrived. Micky spend your time sorting his contract out.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 23, 2024 12:03:33 GMT 1
A review of the season, a few thank yous (naturally one reminding us the chairman is spending money), generic talk of plans for next season and then a reminder of financial of overspend last season. I'm sure we all learnt a lot.
Before anyone jumps on this as negativity/moaning/the man can't win, it's not actually criticism of Moore or the club. This is a standard puff piece by any football club which which ticks the box as communicating with the fans without really telling us anything. He's not going to tell us transfer targets, who is getting released, financial details etc.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2024 12:04:44 GMT 1
I would go as far as to say that RW has put money in when he's not used to doing so,.....and boy has he made absolutely sure that everyone is aware🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 maybe its you who's not used to be him doing so because he's always too modest to talk about it, it was literally forced out of him this season by myself . now its out in the open it seems he has his hands in his pockets most of the time.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 23, 2024 12:13:48 GMT 1
A review of the season, a few thank yous (naturally one reminding us the chairman is spending money), generic talk of plans for next season and then a reminder of financial of overspend last season. I'm sure we all learnt a lot. Before anyone jumps on this as negativity/moaning/the man can't win, it's not actually criticism of Moore or the club. This is a standard puff piece by any football club which which ticks the box as communicating with the fans without really telling us anything. He's not going to tell us transfer targets, who is getting released, financial details etc. Not negative at all. It's a pretty nondescript article but what more could/should we expect? It is however communication from the club to its supporters, following on from the CEOs letter last week. That open communication is a good start.
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 23, 2024 12:20:38 GMT 1
I would go as far as to say that RW has put money in when he's not used to doing so,.....and boy has he made absolutely sure that everyone is aware🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 maybe its you who's not used to be him doing so because he's always too modest to talk about it, it was literally forced out of him this season by myself . now its out in the open it seems he has his hands in his pockets most of the time. *Whilst increasing his discounted shareholding. *Allegedly.
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 23, 2024 12:23:18 GMT 1
A review of the season, a few thank yous (naturally one reminding us the chairman is spending money), generic talk of plans for next season and then a reminder of financial of overspend last season. I'm sure we all learnt a lot. Before anyone jumps on this as negativity/moaning/the man can't win, it's not actually criticism of Moore or the club. This is a standard puff piece by any football club which which ticks the box as communicating with the fans without really telling us anything. He's not going to tell us transfer targets, who is getting released, financial details etc. It's a pretty nondescript article but what more could/should we expect? Information other than that of the first team? We all know what's going on with the first team, we watch every week. What about the academy, behind the scenes, footballing philosophy throughout the club, any other exciting new background work, the youth teams progress? There's wasn't a single mention of the women's and girls teams...
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 23, 2024 12:27:56 GMT 1
It's a pretty nondescript article but what more could/should we expect? Information other than that of the first team? We all know what's going on with the first team, we watch every week. What about the academy, behind the scenes, footballing philosophy throughout the club, any other exciting new background work, the youth teams progress? There's wasn't a single mention of the women's and girls teams... In fairness there’s a women’s DoF so I don’t think there’s any involvement.
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Mar 23, 2024 12:28:23 GMT 1
I would go as far as to say that RW has put money in when he's not used to doing so,.....and boy has he made absolutely sure that everyone is aware🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 maybe its you who's not used to be him doing so because he's always too modest to talk about it, it was literally forced out of him this season by myself . now its out in the open it seems he has his hands in his pockets most of the time. If he had done it in previous seasons it would have appeared in the club accounts, it hasnt appeared since the club accounts have appeared on the internet. Credit to him that he created a self sustaining business,it's exactly how a football club should be run and he has been rightly proud of it. However something has gone substantially wrong and it's highly unlikely that we will ever get the full true story. It probably would have been better for both the club and RW if he hadn't been so vociferous in telling the world
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 23, 2024 12:29:43 GMT 1
Information other than that of the first team? We all know what's going on with the first team, we watch every week. What about the academy, behind the scenes, footballing philosophy throughout the club, any other exciting new background work, the youth teams progress? There's wasn't a single mention of the women's and girls teams... In fairness there’s a women’s DoF so I don’t think there’s any involvement. Is there? Do they work together at all?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 23, 2024 12:29:45 GMT 1
Either way, that's what he is there for...👍 Its what chairmen and owners do. For me that kinda goes with the territory. I mean I'm not going to go overboard praising him for doing so considering what we have had to endure this season. Again. No praise necessarily given from me, but thought it worth noting - not every owner does put cash injections in. Personally I wouldn't expect Roland (or any owner) to be injecting cash into the club. There are many ways to raise money if a business is short, lots of which would come with rather more disadvantages for the club and no personal cost to the owner. Maybe these things shouldn't be praised but they probably shouldn't also be taken for granted. Regardless hopefully we can all enjoy a decent player that helps keep us in the division ahead of a big rebuild next season! I guess what I mean is I don't find that insightful or a stand out (which was perhaps Moore's intent). Its all about opinions of course but I expect that as a given from a chairman and owner...👍
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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2024 12:30:29 GMT 1
maybe its you who's not used to be him doing so because he's always too modest to talk about it, it was literally forced out of him this season by myself . now its out in the open it seems he has his hands in his pockets most of the time. *Whilst increasing his discounted shareholding. *Allegedly. and adding zero value to the club thats for sale
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 23, 2024 12:31:46 GMT 1
*Whilst increasing his discounted shareholding. *Allegedly. and adding zero value to the club thats for sale But increasing his shareholding and ultimate payout... It's easy to chuck £100,000 at the club if you know you're getting back £100,000 worth of shares in return.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 23, 2024 12:33:58 GMT 1
It's a pretty nondescript article but what more could/should we expect? Information other than that of the first team? We all know what's going on with the first team, we watch every week. What about the academy, behind the scenes, footballing philosophy throughout the club, any other exciting new background work, the youth teams progress? There's wasn't a single mention of the women's and girls teams... Good points. It would be good if the club could ask for feedback on its latest communications, perhaps that's something that will be addressed at the next fans engagement meeting?
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 23, 2024 12:39:05 GMT 1
Information other than that of the first team? We all know what's going on with the first team, we watch every week. What about the academy, behind the scenes, footballing philosophy throughout the club, any other exciting new background work, the youth teams progress? There's wasn't a single mention of the women's and girls teams... Good points. It would be good if the club could ask for feedback on its latest communications, perhaps that's something that will be addressed at the next fans engagement meeting? Quite agree. I just don't see the point in first team updates, we watch them every week? What's to learn? I just feel a quarterly article could give some information around his role, the bits we don't see. I'm more focused on the academy and footballing philosophy, it's what could generate us money organically.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 23, 2024 13:37:25 GMT 1
The Academy and its staff are moving back to the Meadow so I would think there will be more opportunity for MM and our coach, etc., to see them and meet with the staff in future. Nit stated but should surely be a fact.
He says he is working the coach, his assistant, and the scout on next season. Also that talks are being held with senior players. We’ve never been told this in the past so early.
I found it encouraging but am happy to see what develops.
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 23, 2024 19:41:18 GMT 1
and adding zero value to the club thats for sale But increasing his shareholding and ultimate payout... It's easy to chuck £100,000 at the club if you know you're getting back £100,000 worth of shares in return. Just as a point of clarification - Any new issue of shares for cash would be accompanied by forms to Companies House and information posted publicly on there, and there has been none, so no, no-one has had any new shares out of this. I am sure the accounts will make it clearer.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2024 19:46:28 GMT 1
But increasing his shareholding and ultimate payout... It's easy to chuck £100,000 at the club if you know you're getting back £100,000 worth of shares in return. Just as a point of clarification - Any new issue of shares for cash would be accompanied by forms to Companies House and information posted publicly on there, and there has been none, so no, no-one has had any new shares out of this. I am sure the accounts will make it clearer. exactly, I was looking earlier today, looked like 2017 was the last change with 160K shares at £2.50 each
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 23, 2024 19:51:13 GMT 1
When was the last cash injection from the chairman?
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 23, 2024 20:07:14 GMT 1
When was the last cash injection from the chairman? If it is as a loan, it does not show anywhere, until it hits the accounts,
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