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Post by venceremos on Mar 16, 2024 21:04:15 GMT 1
No one can argue anything other than that for one reason or another, the loans have been a disaster this season. are we all finally agreed that Kenneh is not worthy of the badge ? never has been Absolutely don’t agree. He’s only 21 & he’s been decent defensively in a struggling midfield. With better fitness level (which the whole squad has lacked, so that’s not all on him) & coaching to improve his distribution, he could certainly be effective at our level.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 16, 2024 21:11:39 GMT 1
All the loanees sat this one out as well. No one can argue anything other than that for one reason or another, the loans have been a disaster this season. You would expect your loanees to be challenging for a first team place but for all three not to even make the match day squad says it all really.
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Post by venceremos on Mar 16, 2024 21:13:40 GMT 1
A very disjointed and low quality game. Interesting to note the experienced international hands of O'Brien and Flanagan b*ll*cking the more golden Benning and Bloxham. That may deserve a thread in itself. Price's introduction was good and the subs worked, Bowman closed down the Carlisle defence when needed, Sobowale added pace. You wouldn't think Carlisle are bottom, but that may be more because Town aren't great. Another terrible referee. Taylor Perry did better, was that a penalty on Bayliss as well? - I thought Dunkley is looking jaded, either he wants to go somewhere else next season or he's tired trying to pick up and rally an unconfident and disjointed side. Marosi made some good saves, especially one at the end of the first half and again in the second. - He would be my MOTM. I must have been at a different match. Today was perfect for Dunkley - little to defend on the ground, lots of balls launched in his direction & he threw himself at everything - don’t recall him missing any. Jaded? Not remotely.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Mar 16, 2024 21:22:01 GMT 1
are we all finally agreed that Kenneh is not worthy of the badge ? never has been Absolutely don’t agree. He’s only 21 & he’s been decent defensively in a struggling midfield. With better fitness level (which the whole squad has lacked, so that’s not all on him) & coaching to improve his distribution, he could certainly be effective at our level. Agreed. For all that he's got some of the worst skill on the ball I've seen from a town player, which has only got worse since Hurst came in and his confidence has plummeted (which I'm not blaming Hurst for) he's got the raw skills and ability to be an effective defensive midfielder. It probably won't be with us, and it'll require patience and coaching but in theory if it can happen I'm not against giving him a year and a proper pre-season and seeing what we can get from him. If he can learn to be more like Anthony Grant and play simple and safe passes rather than attempting things he can't do, then there could be something. Side note - I'm unsure why Pilch slagging off two young players from pre-season onwards who might be lacking but are trying is fair game, while anyone who criticised the previous Head Coach or Director of Football's performance across the season was described as fickle and a whinger. Genuine question, not meant as a dig. Christ, I'm glad this season's nearly done.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 16, 2024 21:26:50 GMT 1
are we all finally agreed that Kenneh is not worthy of the badge ? never has been Absolutely don’t agree. He’s only 21 & he’s been decent defensively in a struggling midfield. With better fitness level (which the whole squad has lacked, so that’s not all on him) & coaching to improve his distribution, he could certainly be effective at our level. you are entitled to disagree, I say had he kept his place either with or without hursts arrival we'd now be in a relegation spot, he arrived with the tag of a box to box midfielder, I think they meant his own 6 yard box to the edge of his own penalty box ;-) if you have subscribed to ifollow at all this season maybe go back and watch a game where he played, and focus on him and his ability to not be wherever the ball isn't , safe to say I dont rate him,
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Post by Pilch on Mar 16, 2024 21:28:23 GMT 1
No one can argue anything other than that for one reason or another, the loans have been a disaster this season. You would expect your loanees to be challenging for a first team place but for all three not to even make the match day squad says it all really. you got off lightly there
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Post by Pilch on Mar 16, 2024 21:30:23 GMT 1
Absolutely don’t agree. He’s only 21 & he’s been decent defensively in a struggling midfield. With better fitness level (which the whole squad has lacked, so that’s not all on him) & coaching to improve his distribution, he could certainly be effective at our level. Agreed. For all that he's got some of the worst skill on the ball I've seen from a town player, which has only got worse since Hurst came in and his confidence has plummeted (which I'm not blaming Hurst for) he's got the raw skills and ability to be an effective defensive midfielder. It probably won't be with us, and it'll require patience and coaching but in theory if it can happen I'm not against giving him a year and a proper pre-season and seeing what we can get from him. If he can learn to be more like Anthony Grant and play simple and safe passes rather than attempting things he can't do, then there could be something. Side note - I'm unsure why Pilch slagging off two young players from pre-season onwards who might be lacking but are trying is fair game, while anyone who criticised the previous Head Coach or Director of Football's performance across the season was described as fickle and a whinger. Genuine question, not meant as a dig. Christ, I'm glad this season's nearly done. jeez, town won, lets start a debate about pilch and cotterill. ( CHANGE THE RECORD PLEASE )
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Post by shrewsburytownfan on Mar 16, 2024 21:35:02 GMT 1
We are near enough safe now from relegation just 3 or 4 more points will do. Fleetwood vale and carlise have basically given up and losing every week it's only Cheltenham showing any fight but cant see them getting more than 47 points.
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Post by shropshirelad1711 on Mar 16, 2024 21:35:07 GMT 1
are we all finally agreed that Kenneh is not worthy of the badge ? never has been Absolutely don’t agree. He’s only 21 & he’s been decent defensively in a struggling midfield. With better fitness level (which the whole squad has lacked, so that’s not all on him) & coaching to improve his distribution, he could certainly be effective at our level. Kennah & Price are different types of player so not really fair to compare them. I'm sure there is something in Kennah, and thought Price was quite influential during his time on the pitch. I thought O'Brien put in another good shift too.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Mar 16, 2024 21:36:20 GMT 1
Agreed. For all that he's got some of the worst skill on the ball I've seen from a town player, which has only got worse since Hurst came in and his confidence has plummeted (which I'm not blaming Hurst for) he's got the raw skills and ability to be an effective defensive midfielder. It probably won't be with us, and it'll require patience and coaching but in theory if it can happen I'm not against giving him a year and a proper pre-season and seeing what we can get from him. If he can learn to be more like Anthony Grant and play simple and safe passes rather than attempting things he can't do, then there could be something. Side note - I'm unsure why Pilch slagging off two young players from pre-season onwards who might be lacking but are trying is fair game, while anyone who criticised the previous Head Coach or Director of Football's performance across the season was described as fickle and a whinger. Genuine question, not meant as a dig. Christ, I'm glad this season's nearly done. jeez, town won, lets start a debate about pilch and cotterill. ( CHANGE THE RECORD PLEASE ) Fancy answering the question about what the difference is, or just going to make a childish response? As a reminder, it was you who brought up Kenneh.
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Post by shropshirelad1711 on Mar 16, 2024 21:36:58 GMT 1
difficult = different. 😱 Predictive text 😱
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Post by Pilch on Mar 16, 2024 21:40:37 GMT 1
jeez, town won, lets start a debate about pilch and cotterill. ( CHANGE THE RECORD PLEASE ) Fancy answering the question about what the difference is, or just going to make a childish response? As a reminder, it was you who brought up Kenneh. excuse me but someone mentioned the loan players were not included today for a reason and stated this isn't up for debate I replied to him asking if that means we are all in agreement they are no good this is my opinion on kenneh , **** all to do with cotterill or anything else , I've always said it and it's never been in full agreement so I was just checking if it now is , ok?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 16, 2024 21:42:47 GMT 1
difficult = different. 😱 Predictive text 😱 I've edited it for you, just for your info , anyone can edit their own posts , shout up or message me if you cant see how to
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Post by harboroughshrew on Mar 16, 2024 21:59:11 GMT 1
I thought O'Brien was our standout player today - good footballing intelligence and trickery to create some half-chances for others who usually a touch and got closed down rather than taking a punt on a first-time shot. Also liked the look of Price whose movement and first touch clearly showed he has played at a higher level. As others have said not a pretty game to watch but three vital points matters more than that at this stage of the season.
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 16, 2024 21:59:29 GMT 1
A very disjointed and low quality game. Interesting to note the experienced international hands of O'Brien and Flanagan b*ll*cking the more golden Benning and Bloxham. That may deserve a thread in itself. Price's introduction was good and the subs worked, Bowman closed down the Carlisle defence when needed, Sobowale added pace. You wouldn't think Carlisle are bottom, but that may be more because Town aren't great. Another terrible referee. Taylor Perry did better, was that a penalty on Bayliss as well? - I thought Dunkley is looking jaded, either he wants to go somewhere else next season or he's tired trying to pick up and rally an unconfident and disjointed side. Marosi made some good saves, especially one at the end of the first half and again in the second. - He would be my MOTM. I must have been at a different match. Today was perfect for Dunkley - little to defend on the ground, lots of balls launched in his direction & he threw himself at everything - don’t recall him missing any. Jaded? Not remotely. Dunkley was better in the second half, he won important headers but its just my observation that with his feet he constantly has to hook the ball into the midfield for no one in particularly to deal with.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 16, 2024 22:04:24 GMT 1
I must have been at a different match. Today was perfect for Dunkley - little to defend on the ground, lots of balls launched in his direction & he threw himself at everything - don’t recall him missing any. Jaded? Not remotely. Dunkley was better in the second half, he won important headers but its just my observation that with his feet he constantly has to hook the ball into the midfield for no one in particularly to deal with. I thought the whole back 4 were good today , however I'd like to see the 3 clear chances Carlisle had during the game before I hand out medals , , fortunately all 3 right down marosis throat As their fans pointed out , that's why we're going down
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 16, 2024 22:10:27 GMT 1
A really poor game, and the stands were equally lifeless through most of it. I think most of us are ready for the summer break after such a turbulent year.
I thought Winchester had one of the poorest games I’ve seen from him, Bloxham also very poor (save for some incredible first touches), Perry industrious but to no avail, Bayliss wasteful, O’Brien touches of class without ever actually doing anything influential. Udoh proving why despite not always being great, he’s still our best striker by an absolute chasm.
Delighted there’s no game next weekend.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 16, 2024 22:23:03 GMT 1
difficult = different. 😱 Predictive text 😱 I've edited it for you, just for your info , anyone can edit their own posts , shout up or message me if you cant see how to So many things I've found out, like editing your own thread title. Just give it a try, or ask Pilch
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Post by southshropblue on Mar 16, 2024 22:28:37 GMT 1
I think so much of this seasons troubles come from very poor recruitment( including loans) and a basic lack of fitness I am confident that Hurst and Doig sort this out for next season
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Post by differentcoco on Mar 16, 2024 22:55:34 GMT 1
may have missed it and may been totally unobservant today but was Doig there ?
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 16, 2024 23:03:49 GMT 1
Out scouting players👍😉😉
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Post by mahoney on Mar 16, 2024 23:19:38 GMT 1
We are near enough safe now from relegation just 3 or 4 more points will do. Fleetwood vale and carlise have basically given up and losing every week it's only Cheltenham showing any fight but cant see them getting more than 47 points. Fleetwood are unbeaten in there last 5. Too many draws to really make an impact, but at the moment they seem to be giving themselves an outside chance.
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Post by mahoney on Mar 16, 2024 23:21:09 GMT 1
We are near enough safe now from relegation just 3 or 4 more points will do. Fleetwood vale and carlise have basically given up and losing every week it's only Cheltenham showing any fight but cant see them getting more than 47 points. Fleetwood are unbeaten in there last 5. Too many draws to really make an impact, but at the moment they seem to be giving themselves an outside chance. An those of us who remember 2003 know you should never assume your going to get 3 points from your last 7 games.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 16, 2024 23:26:33 GMT 1
A really poor game, and the stands were equally lifeless through most of it. I think most of us are ready for the summer break after such a turbulent year. I thought Winchester had one of the poorest games I’ve seen from him, Bloxham also very poor (save for some incredible first touches), Perry industrious but to no avail, Bayliss wasteful, O’Brien touches of class without ever actually doing anything influential. Udoh proving why despite not always being great, he’s still our best striker by an absolute chasm. Delighted there’s no game next weekend. No no pyro no party 🎆🎇🧨🔥🧯🚒🚑💀☠️⚰️
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 17, 2024 0:27:24 GMT 1
A very disjointed and low quality game. Interesting to note the experienced international hands of O'Brien and Flanagan b*ll*cking the more golden Benning and Bloxham. That may deserve a thread in itself. Price's introduction was good and the subs worked, Bowman closed down the Carlisle defence when needed, Sobowale added pace. You wouldn't think Carlisle are bottom, but that may be more because Town aren't great. Another terrible referee. Taylor Perry did better, was that a penalty on Bayliss as well? - I thought Dunkley is looking jaded, either he wants to go somewhere else next season or he's tired trying to pick up and rally an unconfident and disjointed side. Marosi made some good saves, especially one at the end of the first half and again in the second. - He would be my MOTM. I must have been at a different match. Today was perfect for Dunkley - little to defend on the ground, lots of balls launched in his direction & he threw himself at everything - don’t recall him missing any. Jaded? Not remotely. I agree, he has been below par the last few weeks but today he was great. I think it helps having Flanagan next to him so the only thing he has to do with the ball is pass it to him or Winchester.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 17, 2024 0:31:36 GMT 1
Just looking at the other results in league 1, wow, Lincoln City are on some run! Exeter managed to protect a one goal lead against Burton despite having Jules sent off at the end of the 1st half. Creditable point away at Barnsley for Cheltenham - I think Cambridge look far more likely for the drop than them - together with Port Vale, Fleetwood and Carlisle. Had a catch up with the Burton branch of my family today. They are really worried that they will drop into the bottom 4. Carlisle have done the double over them this season (so they must be poor). And they have a must win game against Port Vale next weekend. Well done to Town for making my weekend sweeter with the win, however poor we played 3 points is massive at this stage of the season. The next win should pretty much wrap up safety for this season. Not quite sure when or where it will come, but confident it will do.
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Post by lloyd on Mar 17, 2024 0:52:25 GMT 1
may have missed it and may been totally unobservant today but was Doig there ? Doig was at the back of block 6 with the wheelie shrews. Seem to remember Hurst favouring an aerial viewpoint so guessing it might have been part of that. Was very vocal all game
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Post by Exkeeper on Mar 17, 2024 1:57:36 GMT 1
Flanagan being back helped contribute to the rare clean sheet.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Mar 17, 2024 2:20:14 GMT 1
Fancy answering the question about what the difference is, or just going to make a childish response? As a reminder, it was you who brought up Kenneh. excuse me but someone mentioned the loan players were not included today for a reason I replied to him this is my opinion on kenneh , **** all to do with cotterill or anything else ok Didn't mention Cotterill once in my post, cheers. We'll leave it there.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 17, 2024 6:57:11 GMT 1
A few times I've read/heard that we have the makings of a good squad but we just need one or two additions. Games like yesterday's are a reminder that isn't the case. Carlisle were awful, genuinely one of the worst sides I've seen at this level and we weren't much better so struggled to kill them off.
I'm sure Hurst is relieved that so many players are out of contact and to be honest if every player left then I wouldn't be disappointed.
Roll on the end of the season
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