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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 10, 2024 14:04:13 GMT 1
If possible,would keep marosi,benning,udoh,dunkley, Winchester?,bloxham, sobowale....if Hurst fancies him, he'll give him a new contract... there's a player in there somewhere.....the rest can go Be surprised if we keep Marosi and Dunkley given the wages are likely to be on the high side. Possibly not Udoh either as he will be wanting more so may well move on.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 10, 2024 14:06:52 GMT 1
The big question is what happens to the ownership/finances of the club. Roland won't spend money out of his own pocket for too long (and I don't blame him) so either someone takes us over, we come into a windfall somehow or we end up really slashing the budget so the big earners such as Marosi, Dunkley, Bayliss are released They are all replaceable. Decent players undoubtedly but we have hardly pulled up many trees this season with them playing regularly have we? I'd argue that without them then we would be in a far worse place. Of course we can bring in players to replace them, but assuming we can't afford to offer similar wages then we will get inferior players (look at this seasons recruitment).
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 10, 2024 14:14:07 GMT 1
They are all replaceable. Decent players undoubtedly but we have hardly pulled up many trees this season with them playing regularly have we? I'd argue that without them then we would be in a far worse place. Of course we can bring in players to replace them, but assuming we can't afford to offer similar wages then we will get inferior players (look at this seasons recruitment). Yes that is another way of looking at it too. Trouble is I'm sure that we wont have much money to throw out on wages to whoever PH is looking to build next seasons team around. I guess he didnt do too badly with young up and coming players last time.
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 10, 2024 14:29:25 GMT 1
Hurst got Rodman on a free...another 5 like him...and we'll do ok👍👍😳😉😉
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 10, 2024 15:50:52 GMT 1
I'd argue that without them then we would be in a far worse place. Of course we can bring in players to replace them, but assuming we can't afford to offer similar wages then we will get inferior players (look at this seasons recruitment). Yes that is another way of looking at it too. Trouble is I'm sure that we wont have much money to throw out on wages to whoever PH is looking to build next seasons team around. I guess he didnt do too badly with young up and coming players last time. Hurst has recent sub league experience, perhaps he has one or two recommendations?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 10, 2024 19:27:30 GMT 1
Yes that is another way of looking at it too. Trouble is I'm sure that we wont have much money to throw out on wages to whoever PH is looking to build next seasons team around. I guess he didnt do too badly with young up and coming players last time. Hurst has recent sub league experience, perhaps he has one or two recommendations? Hopefully he hasnt been near the LOI...
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 10, 2024 19:33:41 GMT 1
The 2 LOI players that Lincolns got.....didn't do to bad yesterday!!👍😉😉
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 10, 2024 19:40:21 GMT 1
The 2 LOI players that Lincolns got.....didn't do to bad yesterday!!👍😉😉 No it's funny that several LOI players do well for other clubs at our level but ours dont. Have we recruited the wrong ones (blame MM) or have we coached them wrong (blame MT).
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 10, 2024 20:06:30 GMT 1
I really don't know grizzly🤷🤷
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Post by Worthingshrew on Mar 10, 2024 20:14:17 GMT 1
If I was a player I probably wouldn’t relish a tough pre-season, however if I thought it was going to be the difference between a good and poor season, you’d realise it’s worth it.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 10, 2024 20:21:28 GMT 1
hey, no need for a Micky Moore thread this week we won put it on hold until the next defeat
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 10, 2024 20:42:46 GMT 1
The next one will be a Mickey mouse thread 👍
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 10, 2024 21:04:36 GMT 1
I see we're back to abusing fellow fans, "Anti-town fans" is back 🤡
Truly embarrassing after a cracking three points away at our rivals!
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Post by Pilch on Mar 10, 2024 21:06:18 GMT 1
I see we're back to abusing fellow fans, "Anti-town fans" is back 🤡 Truly embarrassing after a cracking three points away at our rivals! oh go support wrexham, forest green or Newcastle
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 10, 2024 21:07:24 GMT 1
Back to "We don't need fans like you" 🤡
Classy, as per.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 10, 2024 21:15:31 GMT 1
Overjoyed with the win yesterday, it doesn’t mask the problems and issues that have plagued us this season, some of which continue to plague us. Not sure that’s overly hard to grasp.
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Post by gobowenshrew on Mar 10, 2024 21:37:43 GMT 1
The 2 LOI players that Lincolns got.....didn't do to bad yesterday!!👍😉😉 No it's funny that several LOI players do well for other clubs at our level but ours dont. Have we recruited the wrong ones (blame MM) or have we coached them wrong (blame MT). I think I've mentioned this recently but I think it's fairly telling that Fleetwood have an arrangement with Waterford whereby they have first dibs on all their best talent but passed up on Sobowale or Idowu. Interestingly, as I'm "Friends" with him on Facebook, I saw that Derek Asamoah's son has recently made a loan switch the other way.
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 10, 2024 22:05:34 GMT 1
Overjoyed with the win yesterday, it doesn’t mask the problems and issues that have plagued us this season, some of which continue to plague us. Not sure that’s overly hard to grasp. Does it really matter? The goal for most at the start of the season was to consolidate after such a turnover during the summer and a new structure. It looks likely we will achieve that. It has been a crap season but next season is something to look forward to.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 10, 2024 22:13:23 GMT 1
Overjoyed with the win yesterday, it doesn’t mask the problems and issues that have plagued us this season, some of which continue to plague us. Not sure that’s overly hard to grasp. Does it really matter? The goal for most at the start of the season was to consolidate after such a turnover during the summer and a new structure. It looks likely we will achieve that. It has been a crap season but next season is something to look forward to. My point was in response to the goading about why fans aren’t moaning this weekend. In answer to your question does it really matter? Hopefully complaints over our fitness and the like won’t matter into next season, but I think the questions over Moore, recruitment and the like will remain unclear until well into next season. The worst thing we could do as a club is bury our heads and say ‘Hurst kept us up so all is well and let’s crack on in the exact same way’.
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Post by belfastshrew on Mar 10, 2024 22:42:30 GMT 1
The goal for most at the start of the season was to consolidate after such a turnover during the summer and a new structure. Things is, it will be a huge turnover of players again this summer due to contracts ending.
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 10, 2024 23:18:26 GMT 1
If possible,would keep marosi,benning,udoh,dunkley, Winchester?,bloxham, sobowale....if Hurst fancies him, he'll give him a new contract... there's a player in there somewhere.....the rest can go Marosi and Dunkley are the two I'd really want to be retained, I'd be interested to see Hurst's take on the Marosi situation, personally think Cotterill had it right that the goalkeeper should be a permanent signing - I'd also say that Marosi is a better keeper than the Henderson loan of 2018. Udoh, I'd like to stay, he will always run hard. Winchester and Feeney are here for another season and I think their work goes underrated. Feeney may get the chance to partner Dunkley. Its not looking good for Flanagan, Pierre and Sraha in my opinion. Benning is an interesting one and i'd be interested to see where Hurst wants to play Nurse, as a central defender or a left back, I think Benning would be good cover/competition. But he not verstalie. Bowman will be struggling to stay though he's a good finisher. AOB is dusted too (always makes the bench and yet rarely comes on). Bennett's legs have gone unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised to see Cotterill get him at Forest Green. Shipley (has another year) and Bayliss are two enigma's - feel indifferent. Burgoyne - is probably okay for the bench, Bloxham has improved a lot and could be the forward next season, particularly if Udoh doesn't stick around. Taylor Perry - god help us all if he's still here. The League of Ireland guys are similarlly dusted in my opinion.
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 11, 2024 9:14:49 GMT 1
Does it really matter? The goal for most at the start of the season was to consolidate after such a turnover during the summer and a new structure. It looks likely we will achieve that. It has been a crap season but next season is something to look forward to. My point was in response to the goading about why fans aren’t moaning this weekend. In answer to your question does it really matter? Hopefully complaints over our fitness and the like won’t matter into next season, but I think the questions over Moore, recruitment and the like will remain unclear until well into next season. The worst thing we could do as a club is bury our heads and say ‘Hurst kept us up so all is well and let’s crack on in the exact same way’. I mentioned last week that it is difficult to Judge Moore this season due to all the loan players being a complete failure with injuries and the gambles on unknown players not paying off. We could have had a much more enjoyable season if the loan players could have contributed and Mata could have made more of an impact. The best thing to come out this season is Tom Bloxham. He finally appears to be able to claim his place in the first team. Get a decent RB behind him and he could be a real threat next season.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 11, 2024 9:33:10 GMT 1
No it's funny that several LOI players do well for other clubs at our level but ours dont. Have we recruited the wrong ones (blame MM) or have we coached them wrong (blame MT). I think I've mentioned this recently but I think it's fairly telling that Fleetwood have an arrangement with Waterford whereby they have first dibs on all their best talent but passed up on Sobowale or Idowu. Interestingly, as I'm "Friends" with him on Facebook, I saw that Derek Asamoah's son has recently made a loan switch the other way. They’re owned by the same person. Perhaps Roland needs to buy a LOI club?
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Post by secretshrew on Mar 11, 2024 9:36:18 GMT 1
The goal for most at the start of the season was to consolidate after such a turnover during the summer and a new structure. Things is, it will be a huge turnover of players again this summer due to contracts ending. Which is exactly why a club had a DOF in the first place 🤷🏻♂️!!
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 11, 2024 10:12:31 GMT 1
I mentioned last week that it is difficult to Judge Moore this season due to all the loan players being a complete failure with injuries and the gambles on unknown players not paying off. Can you see why people are judging him based on what you've said? Those failures and gambles which have not paid off that you mention are his signings. Of course there is an argument that it's just his first season so should be given at least one more opportunity to get it right. However patience is a rare commodity in football, plus when you factor in our financial position I can understand why some fans are not keen on him being given another opportunity to lead the recruitment
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 11, 2024 10:22:35 GMT 1
I mentioned last week that it is difficult to Judge Moore this season due to all the loan players being a complete failure with injuries and the gambles on unknown players not paying off. Can you see why people are judging him based on what you've said? Those failures and gambles which have not paid off that you mention are his signings. Of course there is an argument that it's just his first season so should be given at least one more opportunity to get it right. However patience is a rare commodity in football, plus when you factor in our financial position I can understand why some fans are not keen on him being given another opportunity to lead the recruitment Seems Vale fans are not happy with their DOF too. Very similar problems reading stuff from their neck of the woods.
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Post by camdenshrew on Mar 11, 2024 10:36:11 GMT 1
One thing Saturday's game again exposed is what a liability Feeney is at right back. The referee could have easily awarded two penalties against him - one for hauling down one of their players in the first half and the other for a handball in the second. His lack of pace is also a major concern. At one point, I saw him trying to track back and it looked like he was wading through treacle.
Hopefully, if we are now in the market for short-term deals on non-contracted players, a right back is a target because any opposition manager with any nous will target Feeney.
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 11, 2024 10:45:46 GMT 1
Definitely..... it's not the lads fault he's gorra play there...but should of been sorted mths ago.... otherwise, we'll be found out, against a decentish team
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 11, 2024 10:54:05 GMT 1
Definitely..... it's not the lads fault he's gorra play there...but should of been sorted mths ago.... otherwise, we'll be found out, against a decentish team I can see it becoming: Marosi Winchester - Dunkley - Sraha - Benning Price - Hinchey Bloxham - Bayliss - Shipley Udoh
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Post by Mortgagehound on Mar 11, 2024 10:54:35 GMT 1
A Great three points and a good day out for a sing song.
As mentioned above, our moans about our DOF are nothing in comparison to Vale Fans rant on their forum after the game. 60 pages of moans about the Owner, the Manager but greatly about Mr Flitcroft.
Apparently Vale fans were told at the start of the season that they had a Championship ready squad........oops
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