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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Mar 9, 2024 22:49:55 GMT 1
Hurst not happy with fitness levels,last 20....no more to be said🤷🤷 In fairness, I’d argue there is more to be said. You’ve had one person correct you and one person directly ask you a question on just one page, yet you’ve ignored both. PS Ollie Watkins simply must start ahead of Harold Kane in Euro 2024.
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 9, 2024 22:51:33 GMT 1
Here's hoping Carlisle are even worse and Exeter (a long way from home on Tuesday) have a similar goals for and against record this season.
Christmas could be coming in March this Year for Town.
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Post by barrynic on Mar 9, 2024 23:07:35 GMT 1
Great win for Town, I negatively thought we may fall short but the win is massive especially if we can follow it up in the next 2 games. Steve cross is expecting a full house on Tuesday he thinks its still 1979 Might just get 5,800 ish
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Post by servernaside on Mar 9, 2024 23:59:08 GMT 1
If our fitness levels are not what they should be…and in my opinion it’s a big if, how long would it take PH & CD to get them up to where they should be? Are we talking a couple more weeks or longer?
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 10, 2024 0:13:39 GMT 1
To late now.....should of been done in pre-season...but Taylor's idea of fitness,is different to hursts,by the way Hurst was talking after the game👍👍
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 10, 2024 0:28:54 GMT 1
I wonder what the numbers are in terms of fitness.
But certainly since Hurst left in 2018 I doubt the squads have been as fit as his squad players.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 10, 2024 0:29:50 GMT 1
Great result today Town whatever the standard of play way, it's the 3 points that count at this stage.
2 very winnable games to come now, we could be virtually safe this time next week. Mind you as its Town we are talking of here I'm sure we will make hard work of it and somehow not win both of the games coming up and leave us biting our fingernails wondering where the last few points will come from.
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Post by shrewswolf on Mar 10, 2024 0:44:20 GMT 1
I think we were fortunate to lead at half time and even more so at the end. It was ugly and for all the talk of Vale being s**te (they were) I think they looked better than us but for maybe the first 20 minutes. However, we 2 of our 3 chances and they 1 of their 4. Humungous win though and superbly taken goals. Top day out. Hurst’s early (in my opinion) bad luck was slightly evened out today. COYB.
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Post by mrcricket on Mar 10, 2024 1:15:54 GMT 1
The first goal changed things a little, Vale went into their shell and only seemed to come out when the substitute scored to pull one back. There was a roar from somewhere in the stadium after that from them.
My first visit to Vale Park, I was always under the impression it was an intimating stadium but I thought it was soleless just like the back streets on the way back to the car.
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 10, 2024 8:23:10 GMT 1
If our fitness levels are not what they should be…and in my opinion it’s a big if, how long would it take PH & CD to get them up to where they should be? Are we talking a couple more weeks or longer? If I have heard correctly the fitness coach is fresh out of uni and was too scared to put the players under too much stress for the fear of injuring them which the players full advantage of and just put half effort into getting themselves into shape. Chris Skitt was asked to oversee the fitness coach late September and things did improve (remember us being dead on our feet by 60 minutes every game?). Like someone has mentioned earlier with games coming thick and fast its hard to spend too much time on improving fitness at this stage. I think after Hurst came in he has ramped things up (which he mentioned in an interview) which is probably the reason we have put out some inconsistent performances. The only solution is to limp our way to safety and then show the squad what a real pre-season looks like. I assume Hurst will want players in early in the summer to get them to the levels he wants them to be. Having the ability to run harder and for longer is more important that skill when you get to the later stages of a game.
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Post by MartinB on Mar 10, 2024 8:42:33 GMT 1
I think we were fortunate to lead at half time and even more so at the end. It was ugly and for all the talk of Vale being s**te (they were) I think they looked better than us but for maybe the first 20 minutes. However, we 2 of our 3 chances and they 1 of their 4. Humungous win though and superbly taken goals. Top day out. Hurst’s early (in my opinion) bad luck was slightly evened out today. COYB. I think it was Mr Hurst's view of the game as well. I like his post match interviews, very honest whatever the results. Too many managers you wonder if they were at the same game when you hear them talking afterwards.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 10, 2024 8:57:15 GMT 1
If I have heard correctly the fitness coach is fresh out of uni and was too scared to put the players under too much stress According to the wesbite, our fitness coaches are Chris Whalley (joined us from Blackpool) & Ben Sutcliffe (also national fitness coach for the Welsh FA) who both joined us in 2022
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Mar 10, 2024 9:34:08 GMT 1
If I have heard correctly the fitness coach is fresh out of uni and was too scared to put the players under too much stress According to the wesbite, our fitness coaches are Chris Whalley (joined us from Blackpool) & Ben Sutcliffe (also national fitness coach for the Welsh FA) who both joined us in 2022 Whalley completed his Masters in 2019 and was employed by Blackpool for nearly 3 years before joining town. Sutcliffe completed his masters in 2020, but had been with Welsh FA since he completed his undergraduate in 2019. So neither of them were fresh out of uni
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Mar 10, 2024 9:39:07 GMT 1
I think we were fortunate to lead at half time and even more so at the end. It was ugly and for all the talk of Vale being s**te (they were) I think they looked better than us but for maybe the first 20 minutes. However, we 2 of our 3 chances and they 1 of their 4. Humungous win though and superbly taken goals. Top day out. Hurst’s early (in my opinion) bad luck was slightly evened out today. COYB. I think on the whole it was 2 quite poor sides, and town came out on top. Think they were lucky Marosi had a good day and their forwards didn't. Vale had twice as many shots as town did, and 22% more possession. I think they were on top for much more than town were. 3 points is absolutely what matters now but it was hardly vintage stuff
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 10, 2024 9:41:15 GMT 1
The first goal changed things a little, Vale went into their shell and only seemed to come out when the substitute scored to pull one back. There was a roar from somewhere in the stadium after that from them. My first visit to Vale Park, I was always under the impression it was an intimating stadium but I thought it was soleless just like the back streets on the way back to the car. It’s usually less intimidating than its reputation and used to be a decent pre match and a quick get away. We were in the far end for the first time with awful facilities and an awkward get away. They seem to have split the old away end into family and others but no where in their end of the ground seemed up for it. The vale fans seemed to have accepted relegation and were low on numbers and noise. Great atmosphere in the away end and a great result, certainly the best 90 mins of the day. Won’t be missed if they go down.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Mar 10, 2024 9:47:51 GMT 1
The first goal changed things a little, Vale went into their shell and only seemed to come out when the substitute scored to pull one back. There was a roar from somewhere in the stadium after that from them. My first visit to Vale Park, I was always under the impression it was an intimating stadium but I thought it was soleless just like the back streets on the way back to the car. It’s usually less intimidating than its reputation and used to be a decent pre match and a quick get away. We were in the far end for the first time with awful facilities and an awkward get away. They seem to have split the old away end into family and others but no where in their end of the ground seemed up for it. The vale fans seemed to have accepted relegation and were low on numbers and noise. Great atmosphere in the away end and a great result, certainly the best 90 mins of the day. Won’t be missed if they go down. Theyve definitely got some winnable matches left in theory but I think if I was them, 7 points away from safety and off the back of that performance and not a single win this year I'd probably be accepting relegation too. They've played town, reading, Fleetwood and Cheltenham in the last 6 matches and have a grand total on 1 point from them. League two it is
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 10, 2024 11:10:14 GMT 1
If I have heard correctly the fitness coach is fresh out of uni and was too scared to put the players under too much stress According to the wesbite, our fitness coaches are Chris Whalley (joined us from Blackpool) & Ben Sutcliffe (also national fitness coach for the Welsh FA) who both joined us in 2022 Well spotted, I stand corrected.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 10, 2024 12:21:57 GMT 1
Yeah, I don't think there's a lot Hurst can do now probably without over fatiguing the player and making things worse. But what were they doing pre season? . Serious questions should be asked about towns level of fitness which has been an issue all season, it is a catch 22. For Hurst as he has to balance current fitness levels versus not over doing things when so many players have had injuries this season. To avoid players picking up injuries and just getting through this season whilst trying to stay up is a real balancing act.
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 10, 2024 12:55:13 GMT 1
Yep...to late now,just hope we avoid relegation,and start from scratch next season....on the team,and fitness levels
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 10, 2024 12:57:53 GMT 1
Cant significantly increase fitness levels at this stage of the season. Limp over the safety line and start again next season, doubt there will be too many still here come next pre season though.
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Post by chameleon on Mar 10, 2024 13:09:16 GMT 1
Cant significantly increase fitness levels at this stage of the season. Limp over the safety line and start again next season, doubt there will be too many still here come next pre season though. Don’t think Hursty is to impressed with the players he’s inherited. Could be some surprise departures at the end of the season.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 10, 2024 13:11:06 GMT 1
Cant significantly increase fitness levels at this stage of the season. Limp over the safety line and start again next season, doubt there will be too many still here come next pre season though. Don’t think Hursty is to impressed with the players he’s inherited. Could be some surprise departures at the end of the season. like who ?
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 10, 2024 13:19:29 GMT 1
All of em🤣😂🤣
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 10, 2024 13:20:31 GMT 1
Don’t think Hursty is to impressed with the players he’s inherited. Could be some surprise departures at the end of the season. like who ? I can't see Marosi being here next season if his wages are to be beloved. In fact I can't think of anyone in the squad who we don't need an upgrade on. Udoh maybe but even he is a shadow of his former self. Can't say I will be surprised at any outgoings
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 10, 2024 13:23:21 GMT 1
Cant significantly increase fitness levels at this stage of the season. Limp over the safety line and start again next season, doubt there will be too many still here come next pre season though. Don’t think Hursty is to impressed with the players he’s inherited. Could be some surprise departures at the end of the season. Would we be too bothered if all of them left? (They wont ALL but could be lots more than just out of contract ones). Even the better ones like Marosi and Dunkley are replaceable though Hurst could build a team around them also if he thinks that could do it. Wages of players will be play a part in who goes and who stays.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 10, 2024 13:28:50 GMT 1
Don’t think Hursty is to impressed with the players he’s inherited. Could be some surprise departures at the end of the season. Would we be too bothered if all of them left? (They wont ALL but could be lots more than just out of contract ones). Even the better ones like Marosi and Dunkley are replaceable though Hurst could build a team around them also if he thinks that could do it. Wages of players will be play a part in who goes and who stays. The big question is what happens to the ownership/finances of the club. Roland won't spend money out of his own pocket for too long (and I don't blame him) so either someone takes us over, we come into a windfall somehow or we end up really slashing the budget so the big earners such as Marosi, Dunkley, Bayliss are released
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Post by pughywasfree on Mar 10, 2024 13:31:04 GMT 1
Don’t think Hursty is to impressed with the players he’s inherited. Could be some surprise departures at the end of the season. Would we be too bothered if all of them left? (They wont ALL but could be lots more than just out of contract ones). Even the better ones like Marosi and Dunkley are replaceable though Hurst could build a team around them also if he thinks that could do it. Wages of players will be play a part in who goes and who stays. Ignoring wages and if I could hand pick the retained players I'd start next season with Marosi, Flanagan, Winchester, Bloxham and Udoh. Maybe Dunkley but he has struggled to replicate his immense form since we have gone to 4 at the back.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 10, 2024 13:31:39 GMT 1
Would we be too bothered if all of them left? (They wont ALL but could be lots more than just out of contract ones). Even the better ones like Marosi and Dunkley are replaceable though Hurst could build a team around them also if he thinks that could do it. Wages of players will be play a part in who goes and who stays. The big question is what happens to the ownership/finances of the club. Roland won't spend money out of his own pocket for too long (and I don't blame him) so either someone takes us over, we come into a windfall somehow or we end up really slashing the budget so the big earners such as Marosi, Dunkley, Bayliss are released They are all replaceable. Decent players undoubtedly but we have hardly pulled up many trees this season with them playing regularly have we?
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 10, 2024 13:37:09 GMT 1
Don’t think Hursty is to impressed with the players he’s inherited. Could be some surprise departures at the end of the season. like who ? That, dear boy, would spoil the surprise
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 10, 2024 13:47:45 GMT 1
If possible,would keep marosi,benning,udoh,dunkley, Winchester?,bloxham, sobowale....if Hurst fancies him, he'll give him a new contract... there's a player in there somewhere.....the rest can go
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