Beefy
Midland League Division Two
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Post by Beefy on Feb 17, 2024 19:07:25 GMT 1
Started last 3 games been awful in all 3. No way he is up to L1 standard he’s weak physically and gives the ball away far too much.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 17, 2024 19:10:50 GMT 1
Started last 3 games been awful in all 3. No way he is up to L1 standard he’s weak physically and gives the ball away far too much. He'll fit right in then 😂😂😂
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Feb 17, 2024 19:19:27 GMT 1
Unfair, but I think he is struggling with the amount of pressure he gets from the opposition. Different from youth, PL2 and whatever name trophy.
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Post by mrcricket on Feb 17, 2024 19:20:58 GMT 1
I didn't even notice he was on the pitch in the first half, he'd done well in the other two that I'd seen of him.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 17, 2024 19:22:38 GMT 1
I didn't even notice he was on the pitch in the first half, he'd done well in the other two that I'd seen of him. Agreed thought he was good in the two before this but completely anonymous today. Been hooked around the 70 minute mark in every game, seems to fade badly. Fitness probably isn’t quite there like a great many of our squad.
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Post by mrcricket on Feb 17, 2024 19:25:01 GMT 1
Bennett needed to come on at half time,
Perry came on and was better today but there seems a general disjointment within the side.
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Post by pughywasfree on Feb 17, 2024 20:03:04 GMT 1
Bit harsh to single him out imo. He is only a young lad and is being asked to play an important role of not only being a defensive mid but to be a play maker. (I believe) this is his first taste of mens football so should be afforded some time to adjust. I'd like to see us go back to the 4 1 4 1/ 4 3 3 formation and put him in a freer role with Winchester playing playmaker.
lots of poor performances today from seasoned pro's so its unfair to pick him out.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Feb 17, 2024 20:24:51 GMT 1
I appreciate he’s young, inexperienced, but I still think he was very poor today and hasn’t looked great in previous two. Considering his age I’m surprised it seems he’s towing a caravan.
The best we played was 4-3-3 with Winchester at the pivot. I understand going 4-2-3-1 at Derby but let’s stick with 4-3-3 please. Perry.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 17, 2024 20:58:44 GMT 1
It wasn't a good game today , hes was a little lightweight , it's good though that the others have kind of responded and fighting to get their place back
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Post by mrcricket on Feb 17, 2024 21:04:38 GMT 1
Needs a break next weekend - Bring Bennett in for him.
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Post by belfastshrew on Feb 17, 2024 21:20:54 GMT 1
there seems a general disjointment within the side. I thought this during the match too. You can see bits that Hurst has been working on, but not everyone understands the brief yet. Marosi, looking to play out from the back, didn't have a clue what to do. I suppose at least he's not kicking it straight out anymore 🤣
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Post by mrcricket on Feb 17, 2024 21:27:56 GMT 1
there seems a general disjointment within the side. I thought this during the match too. You can see bits that Hurst has been working on, but not everyone understands the brief yet. Marosi, looking to play out from the back, didn't have a clue what to do. I suppose at least he's not kicking it straight out anymore 🤣 I'm glad its not just me Belfastshrew The amount high balls to the flanks that someone heads on and it goes no where, Passing, first touches (yes I know it was raining) and playing a ball to feet are fairly basic things that seemed to go a miss. Dare I say but a lot of panic set in today.
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Post by belfastshrew on Feb 17, 2024 21:40:43 GMT 1
Yeah loads of little individual errors today. Frustrating.
Hinchy hasn't filled me with any confidence yet. His over-eagerness leads to silly fouls and he has got caught napping with the ball too often for me. He will only get better though. I think starting with Kenneh against Reading with a view to bringing Hinchy on in the 2nd half would be beneficial.
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Post by mrcricket on Feb 17, 2024 21:47:11 GMT 1
Yes, well Bennett is no spring chicken so perhaps Kennah is a better option.
It looked like Kennah was playing sweeper in the final few minutes with Dunkley and Pierre either side, desperate times.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 17, 2024 22:34:52 GMT 1
I'm guessing being Brighton u21 captain to playing with a team like we currently are is a huge culture shock to him tbh.
It's almost like "if you dont make it here with us at Brighton you could end up playing at this level, so pull your *kin finger out".
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Post by harboroughshrew on Feb 17, 2024 22:52:28 GMT 1
Thought Kenneh noticeably improved the midfield when he came on - its a difficult situation for such an inexperienced player as Hinchy to come into and I suspect he will be used a bit more sparingly in the next few games.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Feb 17, 2024 23:07:46 GMT 1
I believe he’s very well thought of at Brighton. Probably more used to a passing game than we provide.
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Post by shrewswolf on Feb 18, 2024 2:45:23 GMT 1
He had a poor game today yes but more than held his own against two good teams, Derby & Barnsley.
I think this board is in a right flap because of a bad result that wasn’t deserved.
He’s OK. He gives it away less than the usual Kenneh performance at least.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Feb 18, 2024 6:54:49 GMT 1
He had a poor game today yes but more than held his own against two good teams, Derby & Barnsley. I think this board is in a right flap because of a bad result that wasn’t deserved. He’s OK. He gives it away less than the usual Kenneh performance at least. Yes but Hinchy also didn’t win a tackle in 60 minutes and lost it most times he received. Kenneth will break up play and if today’s appearance was anything to go on looked improved/coached. Instruction looked like he just sat deeper than previous (which will suit him) and keep it simple
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Post by Dale on Feb 18, 2024 8:29:05 GMT 1
A big shock leaping from tippy tappy U21 football to the rough and tumble of League 1 especially halfway through the season, there must be a good player in there somewhere but needs to adapt quickly, especially if he wants to keep his place.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Feb 18, 2024 10:30:11 GMT 1
A big shock leaping from tippy tappy U21 football to the rough and tumble of League 1 especially halfway through the season, there must be a good player in there somewhere but needs to adapt quickly, especially if he wants to keep his place. Good point about the way Brighton will have coached him, compared to the way we play. We might have been better getting loanees from a team like Sheff Utd or Burnley who will be more robust and direct.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 18, 2024 10:45:45 GMT 1
Players seem to get singled out on this board. He's a young chap fresh into League 1 doing his best. Another one singled out recently was Perry, but yesterday Hursty brought him on and he added something, Kenneh too. Basically they are all doing their best and Hurst is doing his best to select the right player for the situation, before and during the match.
A slice of luck required, or coaching, to turn those chances into goals and vice versa for the opposition.
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oldfan
Shropshire County League
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Post by oldfan on Feb 18, 2024 11:22:09 GMT 1
I don't think it's "picking out players" to comment that both Hinchy and Shipley had poor games yesterday and that in the games I've seen him in to date Hinchy is not yet League one standard
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 18, 2024 11:42:26 GMT 1
I don't think it's "picking out players" to comment that both Hinchy and Shipley had poor games yesterday and that in the games I've seen him in to date Hinchy is not yet League one standard Well I do Different views are allowed and should be encouraged on the board.
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Post by kenwood on Feb 18, 2024 12:23:46 GMT 1
I would agree that playing hairy arsed football against players of a certain calibre with loads of experience of lower league games is perhaps an eye opener for young Jack . It will be all part of his football education and he will need to adapt . Obviously he has talent but it’s a steep learning curve for the young man . Sometimes raw talent just isn’t enough .
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Beefy
Midland League Division Two
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Post by Beefy on Feb 19, 2024 12:44:35 GMT 1
Can see why Hurst may think that we would benefit from someone who can pass a ball and had been brought up playing that type of football but the truth is he is no where near suitable for a league 1 relegation scrap and should be quickly binned off
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Post by Pilch on Feb 19, 2024 13:02:36 GMT 1
Can see why Hurst may think that we would benefit from someone who can pass a ball and had been brought up playing that type of football but the truth is he is no where near suitable for a league 1 relegation scrap and should be quickly binned off I noticed his passing wasnt brilliant on saturday but then again this might not be entirely his problem, he's likely used to team mates making it easy for him by finding space, ( his under 21 side passed us off the park in the pizza cup ) all of a sudden hes faced with 4 options of town players , 3 dont want the ball and the other is hiding behind his marker
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 19, 2024 13:10:26 GMT 1
Can see why Hurst may think that we would benefit from someone who can pass a ball and had been brought up playing that type of football but the truth is he is no where near suitable for a league 1 relegation scrap and should be quickly binned off I'd go the other way and say we're not up to his standard. He's clearly mustard, he just doesn't have options like he would in his U21 side where they probably see 65% of the ball.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Feb 19, 2024 13:16:53 GMT 1
Can see why Hurst may think that we would benefit from someone who can pass a ball and had been brought up playing that type of football but the truth is he is no where near suitable for a league 1 relegation scrap and should be quickly binned off I'd go the other way and say we're not up to his standard. He's clearly mustard, he just doesn't have options like he would in his U21 side where they probably see 65% of the ball. Yes, it’s almost certain that he’ll play at a higher level than any of the rest of the team.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 19, 2024 13:23:12 GMT 1
It sums up the modern football fan to be honest - we were all rightfully disgusted by the football played this season, Hurst brings in a ball player, we play better football that doesn’t yield the points it deserves and now we want to go back to just having hard men in midfield that tackle hard and lump the ball upfield.
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