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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 21, 2024 13:23:36 GMT 1
I will confess to being lazy here as I have not checked the statistics but I think we’re are badly missing TF in the back 3 and I suspect the downturn in our results coincides with his periods of absence. I will be happy to be proved wrong on this hunch if anyone has cgecked the stats.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 21, 2024 13:25:59 GMT 1
I will confess to being lazy here as I have not checked the statistics but I think we’re are badly missing TF in the back 3 and I suspect the downturn in our resultds and nurse at LWB, Bennett at RWB , Marosi in goal, Udoh up front and a few more
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Post by akpaakpost on Jan 21, 2024 13:35:21 GMT 1
I think the back 3 is the least of our worries at the moment personally
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 21, 2024 13:50:40 GMT 1
I think the back 3 is the least of our worries at the moment personally When a team is conceding an average of over 2 goals per game but are scoring at less than one, the back 3 becomes very important. The only way we can pick wins currently is if we keep clean sheets. We needed 3 goals to win yesterday and that was highly unlikely to happen.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 21, 2024 13:55:18 GMT 1
I will confess to being lazy here as I have not checked the statistics but I think we’re are badly missing TF in the back 3 and I suspect the downturn in our resultds and nurse at LWB, Bennett at RWB , Marosi in goal, Udoh up front and a few more And Cotterill as manager but is with Nurse, that is irrelevant.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 21, 2024 14:32:32 GMT 1
and nurse at LWB, Bennett at RWB , Marosi in goal, Udoh up front and a few more And Cotterill as manager but is with Nurse, that is irrelevant. oh dear not Steve 'Donald trump" Cotterill again, then again he could be coming back too, some people just cant see anything wrong with trump can they, its bizarre
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 21, 2024 14:39:56 GMT 1
I thought Flanagan was playing pretty well before his injury, but worth remembering his last full match was the 4-0 defeat to Blackpool where he gave away the penalty for their opener. He also gave away the late penalty against Northampton that we were incredibly fortunate that they missed with, so although it’s a game we went on to win with a clean sheet it’s very hard to attribute specific praise to him for.
I think whilst all our central defenders have made mistakes at points this season it’s hard to be too critical of them, given that they have to defend for 70/80% of every single match, have ever changing wing backs on both sides and a midfield that gets overrun too regularly.
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Post by akpaakpost on Jan 21, 2024 14:45:46 GMT 1
I think the back 3 is the least of our worries at the moment personally When a team is conceding an average of over 2 goals per game but are scoring at less than one, the back 3 becomes very important. The only way we can pick wins currently is if we keep clean sheets. We needed 3 goals to win yesterday and that was highly unlikely to happen. You could have any back 3 in the world. If you can’t keep the ball, use width, or maintain pressure/ momentum. You’re going to concede in most games at some point. I think the back 3 is fine, not perfect but good enough.
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 21, 2024 14:50:54 GMT 1
And Cotterill as manager but is with Nurse, that is irrelevant. oh dear not Steve 'Donald trump" Cotterill again, then again he could be coming back too, some people just cant see anything wrong with trump can they, its bizarre The Cotterill reference was just for you as your love to bring him into every conversation/topic. As for Trump, lock the b*****d up and throw away the key.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 21, 2024 17:12:50 GMT 1
Flanagan a better defender when on the right or in the middle of a back three.
Clearly a Cotterill man as well, I wonder whether he (Flanagan) may have a future now at Town with Taylor gone.
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Post by southshropblue on Jan 21, 2024 17:18:04 GMT 1
Cotterill is now the manager before last- Can we all move on please
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Post by lancsman on Jan 21, 2024 17:32:50 GMT 1
Flanagan is a hell of a good player and fell out with Taylor because he told Taylor what he thought was wrong. Following the fall out Taylor dropped him from the squad and was forced to reinstate Flanagan as he had no one else. This coincided with Flanagan playing crap And I would suggest that was Flanagan way of dropping Taylor in it. So yes Flanagan could in my view be a band aid until a new coach/manager is found.
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Post by lancsman on Jan 21, 2024 19:14:27 GMT 1
Dave Edward’s is another possibility.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 21, 2024 19:16:59 GMT 1
Cotterill is now the manager before last- Can we all move on please that makes him Ricketts to anyone who hasn't moved on ;-)
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Post by southshropblue on Jan 21, 2024 20:19:08 GMT 1
Cotterill is now the manager before last- Can we all move on please that makes him Ricketts to anyone who hasn't moved on ;-) you ?
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Post by lancsman on Jan 21, 2024 20:32:12 GMT 1
The last thing we need is for Wycherley to appoint another waste of space. He has to go first and take Moore with him.
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Post by belfastshrew on Jan 21, 2024 20:33:31 GMT 1
I will confess to being lazy here as I have not checked the statistics but I think we’re are badly missing TF in the back 3 and I suspect the downturn in our results coincides with his periods of absence. I will be happy to be proved wrong on this hunch if anyone has cgecked the stats. I've crunched some numbers because I'm bored haha. League 1 games only. Flanagan starts = 13 Wins = 4 Draws = 2 Losses = 7 Games without Flanagan starting = 15 (Stats include 4x subs appearances and the Port Vale game he got injured 8mins in)Wins = 5 Draws = 1 Losses = 9 Nothing in it to suggest he would improve us. Maybe someone else who's bored can work out the goals conceeded with Flanagan on the pitch vs without 🤣
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Post by edgmond on Jan 21, 2024 20:48:29 GMT 1
The only game I have managed to get to this season had Anderson, Pierre and Dunkley as the back three. All were excellent, especially AP.
Flanagan does attempt to bring the ball out from the back rather than hoof it away, but last season he looked no better than anyone else at the back and often got caught in possession.
Anyway, as I mentioned elsewhere, I would get rid of him asap after his public criticisms on the radio.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 21, 2024 20:52:53 GMT 1
Flanagan is a hell of a good player and fell out with Taylor because he told Taylor what he thought was wrong. Following the fall out Taylor dropped him from the squad and was forced to reinstate Flanagan as he had no one else. This coincided with Flanagan playing crap And I would suggest that was Flanagan way of dropping Taylor in it. So yes Flanagan could in my view be a band aid until a new coach/manager is found. Whats the chances of him recovering from his injury before next weekend?
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Post by lancsman on Jan 21, 2024 21:07:20 GMT 1
2-1 favourite
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Post by harboroughshrew on Jan 21, 2024 21:40:44 GMT 1
Flanagan is to my mind a bit like Beckles was in that you can tell from his first few touches in a game what sort of game he is going to have - if the first few touches go well he gets confident and has a good game. However the converse applied sometimes. On top form he would be in our best back three on the right of Dunkley who is our best centre-back by a country mile.
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