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Post by Salop_Ian on Dec 31, 2023 15:47:40 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 31, 2023 16:30:31 GMT 1
Incredibly quick replacement.
Deals like this absolutely stink to me. Dont have the replacement already in place before you sack the current bloke.
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Post by Salop_Ian on Dec 31, 2023 16:49:55 GMT 1
Incredibly quick replacement. Deals like this absolutely stink to me. Dont have the replacement already in place before you sack the current bloke. Indeed. Certainly hasn’t worked out his notice at Burnley.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Dec 31, 2023 16:53:33 GMT 1
Incredibly quick replacement. Deals like this absolutely stink to me. Dont have the replacement already in place before you sack the current bloke. Alternatively, if you were to sack someone with no idea of who is going to replace him and then start the recruitment process, the fans of your club would be moaning like hell.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 31, 2023 16:58:05 GMT 1
Incredibly quick replacement. Deals like this absolutely stink to me. Dont have the replacement already in place before you sack the current bloke. Alternatively, if you were to sack someone with no idea of who is going to replace him and then start the recruitment process, the fans of your club would be moaning like hell. No. If you sack a bloke during the season then have someone already at the club to step in to lead the team while you recruit. Dont get rid of them all in one go. What did we do with Askey and Ricketts? Honestly cant remember who stepped in but I know we didnt have a ready made replacement waiting in the next room just waiting for the departing manager to pull the exit door closed behind him.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Dec 31, 2023 17:05:08 GMT 1
Alternatively, if you were to sack someone with no idea of who is going to replace him and then start the recruitment process, the fans of your club would be moaning like hell. No. If you sack a bloke during the season then have someone already at the club to step in to lead the team while you recruit. Dont get rid of them all in one go. What did we do with Askey and Ricketts? Honestly cant remember who stepped in but I know we didnt have a ready made replacement waiting in the next room just waiting for the departing manager to pull the exit door closed behind him. It's a nice theory and I'm not saying I disagree but in reality, it doesn't happen. All clubs tap up managers/players and I've got no doubt that when we've sacked a manager, we've already had conversations about potential replacements and sounded them out about whether they would be interested.
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Post by ssshrew on Dec 31, 2023 17:16:44 GMT 1
Sort of takes the word ‘professional’ out of anything to do with professional football clubs.
I don’t care what anyone says - it stinks (like bad fish).
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Post by Pilch on Dec 31, 2023 17:17:02 GMT 1
why didn't they bring in an experienced manager like Steve cotterill ? according to Jeff Stelling on the day Steve <3 was sacked there "Should be a long queue for his services" here's the queue for Steve Cotterills services
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Post by vladimir on Dec 31, 2023 17:22:21 GMT 1
Incredibly quick replacement. Deals like this absolutely stink to me. Dont have the replacement already in place before you sack the current bloke. Seems like decent and prudent succession planning to me. Johnson done **** all since he got there and the directors have taken steps to save their L1 status.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Dec 31, 2023 17:23:11 GMT 1
Forest sacked Steve Cooper and bought in Nuno Santo on the same day, and after beating Newcastle and that ramble from Manchester I doubt any of their fans are complaining too loudly about the morals of what they did.
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Post by Salop_Ian on Dec 31, 2023 17:23:42 GMT 1
The intriguing thing about this appointment is not so much the speed, but the fact that the new manager will be taking charge of the team literally 24 hours after starting working with the players.
Yes, the prescence of a new manager might lift player performances but how effective will his input be if he knows next to nothing about them.
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Post by ssshrew on Dec 31, 2023 17:25:13 GMT 1
Not very effective we hope!
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Post by tarporleyblue on Dec 31, 2023 17:25:42 GMT 1
At least Fleetwood have avoided the managerial merry go round in this instance...
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Post by Pilch on Dec 31, 2023 17:35:53 GMT 1
The intriguing thing about this appointment is not so much the speed, but the fact that the new manager will be taking charge of the team literally 24 hours after starting working with the players. Yes, the prescence of a new manager might lift player performances but how effective will his input be if he knows next to nothing about them. do you not think that this deal might have originated with Charlie Adam knocking on Fleetwood's door recently? Adam will no doubt have had a instant release clause in his contract should anyone offer him a management job they may have just been waiting for the next defeat in order to justify it. they hadn't lost for 2 games which included a fantastic draw away to pompey, he then gets sacked after a defeat v bolton, and next game is away v out of form Shrewsbury where they nearly always win 3-0, what better time to flip the switch if you want to make the change I honestly dont really care what Fleetwood are doing, one thing I'll say is in the next 5 years they will once again be non league
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Post by kenwood on Jan 1, 2024 11:38:22 GMT 1
why didn't they bring in an experienced manager like Steve cotterill ? according to Jeff Stelling on the day Steve <3 was sacked there "Should be a long queue for his services" here's the queue for Steve Cotterills services New Year’s resolution didn’t last long did it ? 😂😂😂
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 1, 2024 12:17:51 GMT 1
why didn't they bring in an experienced manager like Steve cotterill ? according to Jeff Stelling on the day Steve <3 was sacked there "Should be a long queue for his services" here's the queue for Steve Cotterills services New Year’s resolution didn’t last long did it ? 😂😂😂 In fairness to Pilch, he posted that 19 hours ago, unless he’s eloped to New Zealand it was firmly 2023 when that was posted 😂
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Post by kenwood on Jan 1, 2024 12:21:35 GMT 1
I know but I couldn’t resist . I share the same view of Cotterill as Pilch and I did find this post amusing .😂😂
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 1, 2024 12:38:51 GMT 1
The intriguing thing about this appointment is not so much the speed, but the fact that the new manager will be taking charge of the team literally 24 hours after starting working with the players. Yes, the prescence of a new manager might lift player performances but how effective will his input be if he knows next to nothing about them. He’s specifically referred to as Head Coach assisted by an assistant coach and a first team coach. No sure if it means they have a DoF or just the modern way of naming them? I’m a bit confused still with our set up. Heard that MM picks the team and phones through in play subs and tactics to Bignot to pass on to MT so not sure who’s in charge? Take a look, Bignot receives a call, talks to MT and subs warm up.
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Jan 1, 2024 12:50:31 GMT 1
The intriguing thing about this appointment is not so much the speed, but the fact that the new manager will be taking charge of the team literally 24 hours after starting working with the players. Yes, the prescence of a new manager might lift player performances but how effective will his input be if he knows next to nothing about them. He’s specifically referred to as Head Coach assisted by an assistant coach and a first team coach. No sure if it means they have a DoF or just the modern way of naming them? I’m a bit confused still with our set up. Heard that MM picks the team and phones through in play subs and tactics to Bignot to pass on to MT so not sure who’s in charge? Take a look, Bignot receives a call, talks to MT and subs warm up. So basically MM should be taking all the flack not poor MT who has to be the fall guy every game!!
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Post by vladimir on Jan 1, 2024 13:46:22 GMT 1
The intriguing thing about this appointment is not so much the speed, but the fact that the new manager will be taking charge of the team literally 24 hours after starting working with the players. Yes, the prescence of a new manager might lift player performances but how effective will his input be if he knows next to nothing about them. He’s specifically referred to as Head Coach assisted by an assistant coach and a first team coach. No sure if it means they have a DoF or just the modern way of naming them? I’m a bit confused still with our set up. Heard that MM picks the team and phones through in play subs and tactics to Bignot to pass on to MT so not sure who’s in charge? Take a look, Bignot receives a call, talks to MT and subs warm up. Who you heard that off?
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 1, 2024 20:00:25 GMT 1
He’s specifically referred to as Head Coach assisted by an assistant coach and a first team coach. No sure if it means they have a DoF or just the modern way of naming them? I’m a bit confused still with our set up. Heard that MM picks the team and phones through in play subs and tactics to Bignot to pass on to MT so not sure who’s in charge? Take a look, Bignot receives a call, talks to MT and subs warm up. So basically MM should be taking all the flack not poor MT who has to be the fall guy every game!! I’d better explain. This is what I was told a group of fans in the vicinity of the dug outs had noticed that Bignot receives calls and passes messages to Taylor and their assumptions. Who takes the flack is the big question when you have a DoF and a Head Coach
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jan 1, 2024 20:15:59 GMT 1
Sort of takes the word ‘professional’ out of anything to do with professional football clubs. I don’t care what anyone says - it stinks (like bad fish). Sorry Sheila,but this is exactly how we appointed Cotterill Can't be 100% sure but wasn't the timeline something along the lines of- Tuesday night.Ricketts last match, we draw one each with Burton thanks to a last minute Dan Udoh equaliser. Wednesday morning club announces that Ricketts has been sacked. Thursday/Friday morning? Club announce appointment of Cotterill Saturday We beat Oxford City 1-0 in the FA Cup. There's also the pre event story re Roland waiting for Cotterill to get most of his gardening leave money from Birmingham before commuting to us
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 1, 2024 20:19:18 GMT 1
In that case we are as bad as the rest and I still think it’s out of order.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 3, 2024 11:44:48 GMT 1
The intriguing thing about this appointment is not so much the speed, but the fact that the new manager will be taking charge of the team literally 24 hours after starting working with the players. Yes, the prescence of a new manager might lift player performances but how effective will his input be if he knows next to nothing about them. do you not think that this deal might have originated with Charlie Adam knocking on Fleetwood's door recently? Adam will no doubt have had a instant release clause in his contract should anyone offer him a management job they may have just been waiting for the next defeat in order to justify it. they hadn't lost for 2 games which included a fantastic draw away to pompey, he then gets sacked after a defeat v bolton, and next game is away v out of form Shrewsbury where they nearly always win 3-0, what better time to flip the switch if you want to make the change I honestly dont really care what Fleetwood are doing, one thing I'll say is in the next 5 years they will once again be non league Together with Forest Green, who are looking favourites to be relegated. I don't think the Andy Pilley can be quite so effective in bankrolling Fleetwood from a prison cell. That said, he's attempting to have his conviction quashed on the grounds that one of the jurors was bribed, and allegations from this juror that other jurors were bribed as well. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-67428959
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Post by dibblydobbly on Jan 3, 2024 16:06:38 GMT 1
No. If you sack a bloke during the season then have someone already at the club to step in to lead the team while you recruit. Dont get rid of them all in one go. What did we do with Askey and Ricketts? Honestly cant remember who stepped in but I know we didnt have a ready made replacement waiting in the next room just waiting for the departing manager to pull the exit door closed behind him. It's a nice theory and I'm not saying I disagree but in reality, it doesn't happen. All clubs tap up managers/players and I've got no doubt that when we've sacked a manager, we've already had conversations about potential replacements and sounded them out about whether they would be interested. Surely it is likely that out of work managers will go to watch games and stay tight to possible future employers and/or indicate in advance that if the club want to change they are available, given how many out of work managers there are, suspect most clubs are tapped up that way round regularly.
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