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Post by MetaShrew on Dec 23, 2023 13:27:59 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 23, 2023 14:34:48 GMT 1
May as well scrap Cup competitions, they have been devalued so much and clubs are only going to carry on doing it further.
So sad, some of our best ever games were when Cup competitions were worth it.
The tail continues to wag the dog.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 23, 2023 14:37:09 GMT 1
If the big clubs cant fit in replays then maybe they should only play the one game.
If they dont win that first game they forfit their place and the opposing team go through.
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Post by ssshrew on Dec 23, 2023 15:13:00 GMT 1
No surprise that old Kloppy is in favour. He could t even be bothered to turn up when they were mandatory.
Let’s be honest no one gives a toss about the lower leagues, the magic of the cup or anything else we hold dear.
Perhaps it’s time to just give up and the lower leagues break away for a change.
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Post by chirkshrew on Dec 23, 2023 15:44:22 GMT 1
Yep, pretty much the big clubs,or rather klopp got there own way pretty much......the fa cups been devalued for years by the big teams.bar when they reach the final.......it's ok then......strange that innit!!!😡😡☹️
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Post by MartinB on Dec 23, 2023 21:35:32 GMT 1
How about scrapping Group Stages of European Competitions and going back to home and away knockout games? That would reduce fixture congestion big time
Other suggestions is top 4 clear off and play in European League and play Real Madrid and Barcelona 4 times a season
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Post by ssshrew on Dec 23, 2023 21:51:11 GMT 1
The pizza cup is a problem all on its own.
The introduction of Premier Teams completely altered the reason for it which was to give lower league clubs and their fans the chance to get to Wembley. Once there was the possibility of any sort of Premier League club getting there, it altered everything about the competition and the original purpose behind it.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Dec 23, 2023 22:04:28 GMT 1
The pizza cup (actually changed sponsor mid-season so is now the Bristol Motors cup, shows what a shambles it is) should be the 48 clubs in L1 and L2, invite the top 16 clubs from the national league and then make it a free draw straight knockout single leg competition. A maximum of 6 matches, no B teams, some integrity back.
The league cup losing a two legged semi-final - no biggie, and will never affect us.
The FA Cup binning replays from the 3rd round - a sad day, but if they’re going to do it they may as well just remove replays from the whole tournament.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 23, 2023 22:05:47 GMT 1
How about scrapping Group Stages of European Competitions and going back to home and away knockout games? That would reduce fixture congestion big time Other suggestions is top 4 clear off and play in European League and play Real Madrid and Barcelona 4 times a season Now dont be silly. We know that the Premier clubs, and the big 4 in particular run football in this country, not the FA. So much so that what they want they will undoubtedly get and the rest of the minions have to let them have it. I really do wish they would p**s off and take their little circus elsewhere and let the real football clubs get on with the proper football.
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Post by Pilch on Dec 23, 2023 23:24:30 GMT 1
The pizza cup (actually changed sponsor mid-season so is now the Bristol Motors cup, shows what a shambles it is) should be the 48 clubs in L1 and L2, invite the top 16 clubs from the national league and then make it a free draw straight knockout single leg competition. A maximum of 6 matches, no B teams, some integrity back. The league cup losing a two legged semi-final - no biggie, and will never affect us. The FA Cup binning replays from the 3rd round - a sad day, but if they’re going to do it they may as well just remove replays from the whole tournament. the reason the league cup was still 2 legged was nothing to do with the premier league otherwise it would have been a one off game years ago the EFL wanted this to stay 2 legs simply because the TV money is dispersed pre season, and those that pay the money want value for money, so if they have to justify value for money then so be it
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Dec 23, 2023 23:31:45 GMT 1
The pizza cup (actually changed sponsor mid-season so is now the Bristol Motors cup, shows what a shambles it is) should be the 48 clubs in L1 and L2, invite the top 16 clubs from the national league and then make it a free draw straight knockout single leg competition. A maximum of 6 matches, no B teams, some integrity back. The league cup losing a two legged semi-final - no biggie, and will never affect us. The FA Cup binning replays from the 3rd round - a sad day, but if they’re going to do it they may as well just remove replays from the whole tournament. the reason the league cup was still 2 legged was nothing to do with the premier league otherwise it would have been a one off game years ago the EFL wanted this to stay 2 legs simply because the TV money is dispersed pre season, and those that pay the money want value for money, so if they have to justify value for money then so be it Even 30 odd years later I simply cannot fathom why clubs who broke away from the FOITBALL LEAGUE to create their own little circus are still playing in the FOOTBALL LEAGUE CUP. They dont want to be in it, tell them they dont have to be (**** offski). Mind you we would probably find a way to allow their B teams to infiltrate it.
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Post by Pilch on Dec 24, 2023 10:57:56 GMT 1
How about scrapping Group Stages of European Competitions and going back to home and away knockout games? That would reduce fixture congestion big time Other suggestions is top 4 clear off and play in European League and play Real Madrid and Barcelona 4 times a season Now dont be silly. We know that the Premier clubs, and the big 4 in particular run football in this country, not the FA. So much so that what they want they will undoubtedly get and the rest of the minions have to let them have it. I really do wish they would p**s off and take their little circus elsewhere and let the real football clubs get on with the proper football. this is what will happen and clubs like Town will suffer the most the newest deal obviously seeing the likes of replays going, this wont hit us hard until the day it happens of course EFL clubs are all getting more money for this to happen, the premier league have proposed it, EFL have finally agree the only thing about this more money is all clubs are getting more money, but not the same amount, we already have massive cliff faces between the premier and championship, and champ & league 1, 1 & 2 are not much different the extra money sounds good but it will mean these gaps just get bigger that also means the quality, and next comes the point where the like of SKY TV deals suddenly dont want the EFL at all, so it goes out to tender and ends up bringing in a fraction of what it normally does and then we suddenly have a system similar to the Scottish league , we are fast heading there anyway
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Post by Valerioch on Dec 24, 2023 11:07:46 GMT 1
The pizza cup is a problem all on its own. The introduction of Premier Teams completely altered the reason for it which was to give lower league clubs and their fans the chance to get to Wembley. Once there was the possibility of any sort of Premier League club getting there, it altered everything about the competition and the original purpose behind it. Quite Utterly odious competition that threatens the very fabric of our football pyramid far more than axing any replays does The boycott goes on with integrity - for some of us anyway. History will look back kindly on those who have stood firm
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