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Post by northwestman on Oct 14, 2023 16:17:37 GMT 1
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rob62
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Post by rob62 on Oct 14, 2023 19:22:55 GMT 1
My comment is that I can't be bothered to read the article
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Post by northwestman on Oct 15, 2023 13:17:24 GMT 1
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Post by kenwood on Oct 16, 2023 11:13:45 GMT 1
You know what really annoys me, the fact that those in the “ younger age group “ dismiss any claims for a better life if you like , a more fairer society call it what you will , particularly for those of pension age.
I used to do exactly the same , used to think what on earth are those old buggers moaning about now , they’ve never had it so good. Well, eventually I have become one of those old buggers and my biggest fear is to do with the Health Service and how some practitioners dismiss the elderly as an inconvenience . Together with Social Care issues and the rise in Dementia the future doesn’t look too bright .
A very interesting article NWM from silver voices , thank you for posting it.
Your initial post is also well worth a read , I’m part way through as it’s quite an extensive piece . Certainly makes you think which I like cos it keeps the old brain cells active😉👍
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 19, 2023 10:04:52 GMT 1
For example, how many weeks ago was it that Rishi Sumak stated that the triple lock was safe until the next election?
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Oct 19, 2023 11:28:30 GMT 1
For example, how many weeks ago was it that Rishi Sumak stated that the triple lock was safe until the next election?
An increase of 7.8% compared to the originally planned 8.5%, my heart bleeds for them |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 19, 2023 11:50:04 GMT 1
For example, how many weeks ago was it that Rishi Sumak stated that the triple lock was safe until the next election?
An increase of 7.8% compared to the originally planned 8.5%, my heart bleeds for them It's the principle of the thing. Sunak said the triple lock was safe until the election, weeks later it's not. Damn liar.
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 19, 2023 23:36:29 GMT 1
For example, how many weeks ago was it that Rishi Sumak stated that the triple lock was safe until the next election?
My heart bleeds. I had 5% last year, nothing this year delayed review until April, meanwhile pensioners and clocking 20% inside 18 months. That's the pensioners who in the main have paid their mortgages, have savings they're earning 5% on and final salary pensions. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 19, 2023 23:43:15 GMT 1
For example, how many weeks ago was it that Rishi Sumak stated that the triple lock was safe until the next election? My heart bleeds. I had 5% last year, nothing this year delayed review until April, meanwhile pensioners and clocking 20% inside 18 months. That's the pensioners who in the main have paid their mortgages, have savings they're earning 5% on and final salary pensions. Same as previus response, it's the principle of the thing. Sunak said the triple lock was safe until the election, weeks later it's not. Damn liar.
Prior to the "20% in 18 months", the previous rise was 3.1 %, by the time that increase came into force inflation was over 10%.
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 19, 2023 23:44:26 GMT 1
My heart bleeds. I had 5% last year, nothing this year delayed review until April, meanwhile pensioners and clocking 20% inside 18 months. That's the pensioners who in the main have paid their mortgages, have savings they're earning 5% on and final salary pensions. Same as previus response, it's the principle of the thing. Sunak said the triple lock was safe until the election, weeks later it's not. Damn liar.
Just to clarify, we're talking about 15 pence a day here for the average pensioner? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 19, 2023 23:56:30 GMT 1
Same as previus response, it's the principle of the thing. Sunak said the triple lock was safe until the election, weeks later it's not. Damn liar.
Just to clarify, we're talking about 15 pence a day here for the average pensioner? As I said, it's the principle. If you can't trust a Prime Minister to stick to his word for a couple of weeks then it's a pretty poor show.
How are all the other pledges doing too? Inflation halved by the end of the year, etc.?
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 20, 2023 7:54:36 GMT 1
Just to clarify, we're talking about 15 pence a day here for the average pensioner? As I said, it's the principle. If you can't trust a Prime Minister to stick to hs word for a coupl of weeks then it's a pretty poor show.
How are all the other pledges doing too? Inflation halved by the end of the year, etc.?
In the fourth quarter of 2022, inflation was 10.7%. This suggests it would need to fall to 5.35% by the end of this year for the pledge to be met. It's currently 6.7%. The economy grew by 0.3% in the three months to August. The national debt is falling - but remains above where it was when Sunak made his pledge. Waiting times and the waiting list are growing. The number of people crossing in small boats is lower than last year. |
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Post by kenwood on Oct 20, 2023 16:21:02 GMT 1
For example, how many weeks ago was it that Rishi Sumak stated that the triple lock was safe until the next election?
My heart bleeds. I had 5% last year, nothing this year delayed review until April, meanwhile pensioners and clocking 20% inside 18 months. That's the pensioners who in the main have paid their mortgages, have savings they're earning 5% on and final salary pensions. Don’t be so quick to rush to judgement . Im ok as together with my old age pension I also draw an occupational pension . I’m not rolling in it but I can comfortably manage thank you. But, others are not so fortunate and really struggle with their pension being their only source of income . They are able in some cases to apply for benefits but even then they will still find things hard . So, yes , there are some pensioners like me who ,at the moment are doing o k. Maybe if my health takes a turn for the worse I will not be so fortunate if I end up having to pay for a care package , with long term residential care my savings may soon disappear and I will , or my family will, be left with a house to sell with a charge set against it to claim accrued charges which haven’t been met by savings. Anyhow, you’ve made me feel guilty now as I’ve just been informed my winter fuel allowance is on its way into my account. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 21, 2023 14:02:15 GMT 1
My heart bleeds. I had 5% last year, nothing this year delayed review until April, meanwhile pensioners and clocking 20% inside 18 months. That's the pensioners who in the main have paid their mortgages, have savings they're earning 5% on and final salary pensions. Don’t be so quick to rush to judgement . Im ok as together with my old age pension I also draw an occupational pension . I’m not rolling in it but I can comfortably manage thank you. But, others are not so fortunate and really struggle with their pension being their only source of income . They are able in some cases to apply for benefits but even then they will still find things hard . So, yes , there are some pensioners like me who ,at the moment are doing o k. Maybe if my health takes a turn for the worse I will not be so fortunate if I end up having to pay for a care package , with long term residential care my savings may soon disappear and I will , or my family will, be left with a house to sell with a charge set against it to claim accrued charges which haven’t been met by savings. Anyhow, you’ve made me feel guilty now as I’ve just been informed my winter fuel allowance is on its way into my account. Don't feel guilty, you provided for yourself, paying in to an occupational pension all those hard working years. The younger ones can still pay in to a pension, with matching payments from their employer. They may have a more uncertain payout because it won't be final salary, but with good investment they could even get more on defined contribution, just avoid Unit Trusts and "advisors", make time to make yourself the master of your own investment because no one cares about your future more than you do. If there's a choice of where your money is invested in a company pension, at least review it. |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 21, 2023 15:17:54 GMT 1
'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command'.
George Orwell, 1984
Seems very appropriate to this blatant lie by Starmer!
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 22, 2023 1:22:53 GMT 1
'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command'. George Orwell, 1984 Seems very appropriate to this blatant lie by Starmer! What do you think the lie is? |
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Post by northwestman on Oct 24, 2023 16:58:18 GMT 1
'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command'. George Orwell, 1984 Seems very appropriate to this blatant lie by Starmer! What do you think the lie is? In an LBC interview on 11 October, pressed on whether Israel’s siege of Gaza – cutting off power and water – was appropriate, Starmer said: “I think that Israel does have that right, it is an ongoing situation. Obviously, everything should be done within international law, but I don’t want to step away from the core principles that Israel has a right to defend herself.” A week later, Starmer’s spokesperson said it was “one of those things where there were overlapping questions and answers based on what had been being said before”. Then Starmer himself started to backtrack. But instead of just saying that he was wrong or that he misspoke, he tried to make it seem as though he had never said what he actually said. “I know that LBC clip has been widely shared and caused real concern and distress in some Muslim communities, so let me be clear about what I was saying and what I wasn’t saying. I was saying that Israel has the right to self-defence, and when I said that right I meant it was that right to self-defence. I was not saying that Israel had the right to cut off water, food, fuel or medicines.” It appears that his team’s strategy to dig themselves out of this hole is to gaslight British Muslims and heap further harm and disrespect on devastated communities. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 24, 2023 19:04:11 GMT 1
So he said Israel has the right to defend itself within International law. Since when has cutting off civillians power, water, etc. been allowed under International law? Therefore, what's the problem?
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 25, 2023 10:42:35 GMT 1
So he said Israel has the right to defend itself within International law. Since when has cutting off civillians power, water, etc. been allowed under International law? Therefore, what's the problem? So the logic is they have no right to defend themselves as they haven't within international law? He should probably hop off the fence he's been perched on for years and just say what he ****ing thinks. |
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Post by kenwood on Oct 25, 2023 11:22:23 GMT 1
How blessed are we.
Starmer trying to defend what he said. How often have we heard politicians come up with the same tired excuse, “ it’s all been taken out of context, I never meant that “ or something similar, usually after they’ve been caught out.
Sunak doesn’t bother with all that, he just comes up with policies one day and then changes his mind the next day .
Surely Sunak is the worst PM of all time , exceeding even Johnson and Cameron.
Roll on the next GE , although both Sunak and Starmer may not be in charge of their respective parties by then . Of the two I think the totally inept Sunak is in most danger .
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 25, 2023 11:34:27 GMT 1
How blessed are we. Starmer trying to defend what he said. How often have we heard politicians come up with the same tired excuse, “ it’s all been taken out of context, I never meant that “ or something similar, usually after they’ve been caught out. Sunak doesn’t bother with all that, he just comes up with policies one day and then changes his mind the next day . Surely Sunak is the worst PM of all time , exceeding even Johnson and Cameron. Roll on the next GE , although both Sunak and Starmer may not be in charge of their respective parties by then . Of the two I think the totally inept Sunak is in most danger . You forgot Truss, the completely off her trolley one. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 25, 2023 11:42:07 GMT 1
So he said Israel has the right to defend itself within International law. Since when has cutting off civillians power, water, etc. been allowed under International law? Therefore, what's the problem? So the logic is they have no right to defend themselves as they haven't within international law? He should probably hop off the fence he's been perched on for years and just say what he ****ing thinks. Their beef is with Hamas. Are you saying they can't neutralise the threat of the terrorists wthin Hamas without neutralising ordinary Palestinians and their children? |
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Post by kenwood on Oct 25, 2023 11:49:43 GMT 1
How blessed are we. Starmer trying to defend what he said. How often have we heard politicians come up with the same tired excuse, “ it’s all been taken out of context, I never meant that “ or something similar, usually after they’ve been caught out. Sunak doesn’t bother with all that, he just comes up with policies one day and then changes his mind the next day . Surely Sunak is the worst PM of all time , exceeding even Johnson and Cameron. Roll on the next GE , although both Sunak and Starmer may not be in charge of their respective parties by then . Of the two I think the totally inept Sunak is in most danger . You forgot Truss, the completely off her trolley one. Sorry, yes I did forget Truss Sunak is the second worst PM of all time . In the league of absolute s**te PM’s Truss will take some beating . What I find very disturbing is that she was chosen by her fellow MP’s and had the backing of party members in a contest with Sunak . So, we ended up with a PM the country and indeed his own party didn’t want . How totally bizarre. Even Proportional Representation wouldn’t have sorted that mess out would it? Have to say that I am in favour of PR though . |
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 25, 2023 12:21:35 GMT 1
So the logic is they have no right to defend themselves as they haven't within international law? He should probably hop off the fence he's been perched on for years and just say what he ****ing thinks. Their beef is with Hamas. Are you saying they can't neutralise the threat of the terrorists wthin Hamas without neutralising ordinary Palestinians and their children? Do you think that's possible? 6,000+ are dead already, do you believe they're all Hamas militants? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 26, 2023 20:15:11 GMT 1
Their beef is with Hamas. Are you saying they can't neutralise the threat of the terrorists wthin Hamas without neutralising ordinary Palestinians and their children? Do you think that's possible? 6,000+ are dead already, do you believe they're all Hamas militants? Perhaps Israel should take a leaf out of Mr Putin's book over the Wagner mutiny? Revenge is a dish best served cold. Keeps the West on side too, so you have access to the finest surveilance the world has to target and drone attack those identified as terrorists, Osama Bin ladin style. |
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Post by kenwood on Oct 27, 2023 11:14:19 GMT 1
Looking at Gaza and the damage that has been done , and continues to be done, one cannot help but wonder what will happen after the Israeli military have finished bombing the place to hell and back.
Maybe that’s the whole idea , to reduce Gaza City to rubble and make the whole strip unliveable with Palestinians crammed into the south up to the Egyptian border.
When the Israeli military have finished with it and the government satisfied that Hamas has been dealt a blow that will take years to recover from, because they will never go away, then perhaps the rebuilding process will begin.
But whose going to do it , whose going to clear the place of bombed out buildings, reconnect water and electricity supplies and rebuild homes . When will their markets once more sell produce .
It won’t happen and Israel, to my mind know this and are focused on destroying Hamas by completely wiping out Gaza City, leaving it clear of buildings but full of bodies .
An horrific thought .
Surely the International community will be forced to help in such circumstances .
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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 27, 2023 16:01:53 GMT 1
Looking at Gaza and the damage that has been done , and continues to be done, one cannot help but wonder what will happen after the Israeli military have finished bombing the place to hell and back. Maybe that’s the whole idea , to reduce Gaza City to rubble and make the whole strip unliveable with Palestinians crammed into the south up to the Egyptian border. When the Israeli military have finished with it and the government satisfied that Hamas has been dealt a blow that will take years to recover from, because they will never go away, then perhaps the rebuilding process will begin. But whose going to do it , whose going to clear the place of bombed out buildings, reconnect water and electricity supplies and rebuild homes . When will their markets once more sell produce . It won’t happen and Israel, to my mind know this and are focused on destroying Hamas by completely wiping out Gaza City, leaving it clear of buildings but full of bodies . An horrific thought . Surely the International community will be forced to help in such circumstances . There’s more than enough money within the Arab states to finance and organise the rebuilding if the will is there. |
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Post by servernaside on Oct 27, 2023 16:09:39 GMT 1
Looking at Gaza and the damage that has been done , and continues to be done, one cannot help but wonder what will happen after the Israeli military have finished bombing the place to hell and back. Maybe that’s the whole idea , to reduce Gaza City to rubble and make the whole strip unliveable with Palestinians crammed into the south up to the Egyptian border. When the Israeli military have finished with it and the government satisfied that Hamas has been dealt a blow that will take years to recover from, because they will never go away, then perhaps the rebuilding process will begin. But whose going to do it , whose going to clear the place of bombed out buildings, reconnect water and electricity supplies and rebuild homes . When will their markets once more sell produce . It won’t happen and Israel, to my mind know this and are focused on destroying Hamas by completely wiping out Gaza City, leaving it clear of buildings but full of bodies . An horrific thought . Surely the International community will be forced to help in such circumstances . What is this 'international community' of which you speak? |
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Post by kenwood on Oct 27, 2023 19:14:26 GMT 1
I take it to be what it has always been recognised as ;
Comprised of states / governments of the world.
I am aware this would be difficult because it requires states to recognise cultural differences and to be accepted.
Anyhow, that’s how I see it .
Whatever it would require a great deal of negotiation. I’m sure not all Palestinians support Hamas but all Palestinians are suffering because of the atrocities committed by Hamas.
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