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Post by harboroughshrew on Sept 10, 2023 15:35:58 GMT 1
Thought the team selection was a rare misjudgement from Southgate - surely Rashford is first choice on the left flank for his pace , trickery and finishing and he can also switch into the middle when Kane goes deep. Henderson has been a decent player for Liverpool and England but surely he is not first choice in our midfield now. I also wonder what Foden has to do to get a run of starting games for England - he is one of the most naturally gifted English players I have ever seen. Never mind, we are still well on course to qualify for next year's tournament and there is just the little matter of a 'friendly' against Scotland coming up on Tuesday.
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 10, 2023 16:01:33 GMT 1
How Pickford, Maguire, Henderson get games when we have this generation and squad of talent is beyond me.
Pickford - Let's in 50+ in a relegation threatened side every year.
Maguire - 5th choice at United.
Henderson - Well past it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2023 16:09:47 GMT 1
How Pickford, Maguire, Henderson get games when we have this generation and squad of talent is beyond me. Pickford - Let's in 50+ in a relegation threatened side every year. Maguire - 5th choice at United. Henderson - Well past it. Some terrible selections by Southgate. The pressure from the media is starting to ramp up and he's brought it on himself. |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 10, 2023 16:13:42 GMT 1
How Pickford, Maguire, Henderson get games when we have this generation and squad of talent is beyond me. Pickford - Let's in 50+ in a relegation threatened side every year. Maguire - 5th choice at United. Henderson - Well past it. good job you are not Scotland manager, Scott Mctominay 7 minutes for united this season, would he even be in your squad ? |
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Post by chirkshrew on Sept 10, 2023 17:44:33 GMT 1
Well, the 4 favourites will always get game time....... whether they're s**t or not👍👍🤷🤷🤦
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Post by Exkeeper on Sept 10, 2023 22:10:05 GMT 1
One of the papers that I saw on-line summed it up for me.
Our cricket teams are now playing Bazball, full of entertaining, attacking intent, whilst our footballers are playing Gazball full of backwards, sideways over passing more likely to lull us off to sleep.
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Post by vladimir on Sept 10, 2023 22:17:35 GMT 1
How Pickford, Maguire, Henderson get games when we have this generation and squad of talent is beyond me. Pickford - Let's in 50+ in a relegation threatened side every year. Maguire - 5th choice at United. Henderson - Well past it. good job you are not Scotland manager, Scott Mctominay 7 minutes for united this season, would he even be in your squad ? Difference of course being that behind mctominay is some chugger playing in an average league. Behind maguire is a plethora of talent including one recently part of winning his age group European championship at left sided centre back and is left footed and has also started every single prem game his club has participated in. |
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Post by Exkeeper on Sept 10, 2023 22:19:45 GMT 1
One of the papers that I saw on-line summed it up for me. Our cricket teams are now playing Bazball, full of entertaining, attacking intent, whilst our footballers are playing Gazball full of backwards, sideways over passing more likely to lull us off to sleep. However, beat Malta at home and North Macedonia away we win the group. With Italy having to come to Wembley and play Ukraine twice, we will be guaranteed second place qualification just be beating Malta, as our goal difference is far better than the others. |
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Post by shrewswolf on Sept 10, 2023 22:39:58 GMT 1
Pickford is brilliant in a terrible Everton team, and has been consistently excellent for England.
Ramsdale looks a weak link at Arsenal, poor with the ball at his feet etc.
Dean Henderson the only future challenger for that spot as Pope is shocking.
England sadly lack any centre halves of the right quality to partner Stones.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 10, 2023 22:53:42 GMT 1
good job you are not Scotland manager, Scott Mctominay 7 minutes for united this season, would he even be in your squad ? Difference of course being that behind mctominay is some chugger playing in an average league. Behind maguire is a plethora of talent including one recently part of winning his age group European championship at left sided centre back and is left footed and has also started every single prem game his club has participated in. difference being, you dont have a clue what im on about I was on about what he has done for Scotland in that group so far this year 5 wins, 5 goals including both in the 2-0 v spain, also has assists maybe not playing week in week out actually helps a bit |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 10, 2023 22:54:50 GMT 1
Interesting take, considering he was part of the joint best defence in the Premier League last season? |
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Post by shrewswolf on Sept 10, 2023 22:57:06 GMT 1
Interesting take, considering he was part of the joint best defence in the Premier League last season? Newcastle fans seem to be debating whether it’s worth bringing Dubravka back in. Since he got sent off before their final last season he’s gone to s**t, his performance against Brighton this season for example… |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 10, 2023 23:14:59 GMT 1
Interesting take, considering he was part of the joint best defence in the Premier League last season? Wasn't it just last last week or maybe the week before , pope has gifted goals And Pickford has made amazing saves ? Sterling has also been on cracking form , not sure why he missed out Can't say I really watched the game yesterday so not sure how we even played , but I did see a few minutes and thought it was such an incredible emotional atmosphere that I'd take a point in that situation any day |
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Post by vladimir on Sept 10, 2023 23:17:59 GMT 1
Difference of course being that behind mctominay is some chugger playing in an average league. Behind maguire is a plethora of talent including one recently part of winning his age group European championship at left sided centre back and is left footed and has also started every single prem game his club has participated in. difference being, you dont have a clue what im on about I was on about what he has done for Scotland in that group so far this year 5 wins, 5 goals including both in the 2-0 v spain, also has assists maybe not playing week in week out actually helps a bit I haven't got issue with mctominay playing for Scotland with no mins for United he's the best they have even with that level of match fitness. I'm a fan of mctominay. Maguire however is bust at United and is a liability for country. He's a proper defender with confidence which he isn't getting. Colwill should be getting the experience now for England. |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 10, 2023 23:26:42 GMT 1
difference being, you dont have a clue what im on about I was on about what he has done for Scotland in that group so far this year 5 wins, 5 goals including both in the 2-0 v spain, also has assists maybe not playing week in week out actually helps a bit I haven't got issue with mctominay playing for Scotland with no mins for United he's the best they have even with that level of match fitness. I'm a fan of mctominay. Maguire however is bust at United and is a liability for country. He's a proper defender with confidence which he isn't getting. Colwill should be getting the experience now for England. Maguire has been playing really well for England , I guess you must just dislike Man U Maybe there's some chugger behind him or summut |
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Post by Exkeeper on Sept 11, 2023 3:50:02 GMT 1
Whenever I see Pickford play I am waiting for his next mistake to happen.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Sept 11, 2023 9:13:31 GMT 1
Whenever I see Pickford play I am waiting for his next mistake to happen. How many mistakes has he made for England? I know he's made some high profile mistakes for Everton over the years but for England he's generally steady |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 11, 2023 9:53:50 GMT 1
Seems like the same old criticism without any substance
I mention Sterling , one of the most in form premier players this season and left out , I don't like the guy , but why didn't he play ?
no one cares , it's just a bit like town , if we don't win , let's complain for the sake of it , doesn't matter what about , just moan
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 11, 2023 9:57:27 GMT 1
Seems like the same old criticism without any substance I mention Sterling , one of the most in form premier players this season and left out , I don't like the guy , but why didn't he play ? no one cares , it's just a bit like town , if we don't win , let's complain for the sake of it , doesn't matter what about , just moan Haven't seen anyone disagree with you? I'd have Sterling in all day. |
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Post by Exkeeper on Sept 11, 2023 11:40:37 GMT 1
Seems like the same old criticism without any substance I mention Sterling , one of the most in form premier players this season and left out , I don't like the guy , but why didn't he play ? no one cares , it's just a bit like town , if we don't win , let's complain for the sake of it , doesn't matter what about , just moan Haven't seen anyone disagree with you? I'd have Sterling in all day. Me too. |
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Post by Exkeeper on Sept 11, 2023 11:43:37 GMT 1
Whenever I see Pickford play I am waiting for his next mistake to happen. How many mistakes has he made for England? I know he's made some high profile mistakes for Everton over the years but for England he's generally steady Never has much to do in England games, but has made some right howlers in Everton games. Has made some good saves too, but that’s what he is there for. |
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Sept 11, 2023 14:41:48 GMT 1
Didn't watch this as find England far too dull outside of major tournaments.
But based on that team though it does suggest to me that it's time to move on from Southgate. Henderson and Maguire particularly have absolutely no right to be in that team.
At least Southgate picked Guehi but less than a year from a major tournament England should be establishing relationships in key positions.
Haven't got loads of picks ahead of Henderson but in that case play Bellingham deeper. Moving to Saudi should end his England career. Simply not playing at a good enough level to justify inclusion.
And re Maguire England have so many centre backs that should be ahead of him. And you can see from the Ukraine goal his defensive instincts have completely betrayed him. Would have been so much better playing Dunk or Colwill.
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 11, 2023 14:53:55 GMT 1
Imagine if the rumours are true and Pep takes over Southgate in time, now that will be bloody exciting!
Fingers crossed 🤞
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Post by chirkshrew on Sept 11, 2023 15:06:49 GMT 1
Pep won't take over at England......... he'll have no money to spend there👍😲🤷🤷
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 11, 2023 15:33:06 GMT 1
Pep won't take over at England......... he'll have no money to spend there👍😲🤷🤷 The bloke improves players tenfold, it's not about money, he's meticulous in his planning, training methods and individual player development. |
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Post by MetaShrew on Sept 11, 2023 16:17:52 GMT 1
Imagine if the rumours are true and Pep takes over Southgate in time, now that will be bloody exciting! Fingers crossed 🤞 There's more chance of Pep getting pregnant than there is of him becoming England manager. |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 11, 2023 16:49:41 GMT 1
Imagine if the rumours are true and Pep takes over Southgate in time, now that will be bloody exciting! Fingers crossed 🤞 There's more chance of Pep getting pregnant than there is of him becoming England manager. We'll pin this comment for future reference 👍 |
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 11, 2023 16:52:19 GMT 1
Pep won't take over at England......... he'll have no money to spend there👍😲🤷🤷 The bloke improves players tenfold, it's not about money, he's meticulous in his planning, training methods and individual player development. Agree with most of that apart from the money part.. Undoubtable a legendary coach and tactician who will rightly go down in history (even if I think he's a bit of a dick), but every job he's had has been taking over at a top team with money to spare |
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Post by chirkshrew on Sept 11, 2023 16:58:59 GMT 1
If he took over at say Hartlepool, he wouldn't know where to start,money to throw about wherever he's been,good job he's not at utd....... no money there either
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Post by Valerioch on Sept 11, 2023 17:09:27 GMT 1
If he took over at say Hartlepool, he wouldn't know where to start,money to throw about wherever he's been,good job he's not at utd....... no money there either You do realise Man Utd have outspent Man City over the last decade? Money helps, but spending it wisely and having a great coach is the most important thing. City get that right. Utd thankfully do not |
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