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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 28, 2023 14:51:42 GMT 1
I'm pleased for him that he has made such a good start for Bayern Munich, he came on late to a very warm welcome in a game that was already lost, but in the next two full games were he started he has scored three goals, two came against Augsburg and he was unlucky to not scores hattrick. He really couldn't have made a better start. Hopefully he can be part of a team that wins some silver wear,( no disrespect intended to any Spurs fans)
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Post by shrewsburytownfan on Aug 28, 2023 15:10:12 GMT 1
Bayern Munich win the German league pretty much every there so he should win trophies with them. They were lucky win the league on the last day of the season but they still managed it. Kane will bang in 30 goals a season there no problem.
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Post by Dale on Aug 29, 2023 21:30:26 GMT 1
Moving to Bayern will become the best thing he ever did.
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Post by kenwood on Aug 29, 2023 21:32:55 GMT 1
Yea, pleased for Harry. He comes across as a really good sort . Hope he dos really well in Germany and wins a few trophies .
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 29, 2023 21:33:34 GMT 1
British players have been doing well in Europe for a few years now, Jaden Sancho, Tammy Abraham and the likes but I think Jude Bellingham in particular has really opened up playerโs eyes that there are genuine options outside of the Premier League.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 29, 2023 22:48:14 GMT 1
Wasted at spurs to then be wasted in Germany. He could have gone down in history as the best striker ever if he had been at a top club years ago.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Aug 30, 2023 9:48:04 GMT 1
Wasted at spurs to then be wasted in Germany. He could have gone down in history as the best striker ever if he had been at a top club years ago. Whatโs your point? Bayern not a top club??
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Aug 30, 2023 9:56:33 GMT 1
Wasted at spurs to then be wasted in Germany. He could have gone down in history as the best striker ever if he had been at a top club years ago. If heโd have left Spurs 5 years ago and won 4 leagues and a Champions League at Man City heโd still be viewed exactly the same in my opinion - as one of the greatest strikers of his generation. Even if heโd done all that people would be saying he needs to win the World Cup to cement his legacy, people will always want more. On a slightly separate note good to see both Spurs and West Ham starting well without Kane and Rice, no player in football is irreplaceable.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 30, 2023 10:09:54 GMT 1
Wasted at spurs to then be wasted in Germany. He could have gone down in history as the best striker ever if he had been at a top club years ago. If heโd have left Spurs 5 years ago and won 4 leagues and a Champions League at Man City heโd still be viewed exactly the same in my opinion - as one of the greatest strikers of his generation. Even if heโd done all that people would be saying he needs to win the World Cup to cement his legacy, people will always want more. On a slightly separate note good to see both Spurs and West Ham starting well without Kane and Rice, no player in football is irreplaceable. Both clubs will be better without both players, not because they aren't great players, but because of their clubs obsession that absolutely everything had to go through them. West Ham will flourish without Rice providing they spend the money well, that's the key.
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on Aug 30, 2023 11:05:00 GMT 1
If Harry stays fit he will become a Bayern hero. He will score 30 every season especially if he scores in the champions leagues too.
I understand why he stays with Spurs, he wanted so much to help them get a trophy and get their top scorer ever.
Good luck HK.
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Post by servernaside on Aug 30, 2023 11:36:21 GMT 1
Wasted at spurs to then be wasted in Germany. He could have gone down in history as the best striker ever if he had been at a top club years ago. I guess Bayern have only won the Champions League six times. Not a really top club then.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 30, 2023 14:01:14 GMT 1
I don't think he can win with a good few to be honest, no matter what he does.
He should win a trophy here in Germany because its Bayern but I did think it would be looked down upon by a good few in England, as in "its just Germany". But anyhow, I wish him well and he seems to have settled well. Just from personal experience here in Germany he is very well liked, for a good few years now whenever I speak about England many people have said how much they like Kane. So he's picked a good place to come.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 30, 2023 16:14:20 GMT 1
I don't think he can win with a good few to be honest, no matter what he does. He should win a trophy here in Germany because its Bayern but I did think it would be looked down upon by a good few in England, as in "its just Germany". But anyhow, I wish him well and he seems to have settled well. Just from personal experience here in Germany he is very well liked, for a good few years now whenever I speak about England many people have said how much they like Kane. So he's picked a good place to come. . Thanks for that perspective from Germany, he had a massive cheer when he came on as a sub for his first game .
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 31, 2023 6:48:01 GMT 1
Wasted at spurs to then be wasted in Germany. He could have gone down in history as the best striker ever if he had been at a top club years ago. Whatโs your point? Bayern not a top club?? My point is that he can not be in the best striker ever debate because he has been at a club in a hard league that achieved nothing for the majority of his career and now he is going to see out his last remaining years at a top club in a league with much lower quality so it is less of an achievement. I feel the same about all the PSG "stars". I could quite possibly be being a big headed Englishman but I don't give much credit to players that settle for one horse races.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 31, 2023 7:02:19 GMT 1
Wasted at spurs to then be wasted in Germany. He could have gone down in history as the best striker ever if he had been at a top club years ago. I guess Bayern have only won the Champions League six times. Not a really top club then. Not sure why you have responded so passively aggressive but ill ignore it. Of course Bayern are a top club, they have had some great players and have achieved a lot, my point is he wasted too many years at spurs. I just think you can not argue that he better than some of history's greats due to not being able to reach his potential in a poor spurs team. What he and Son have managed to achieve at Spurs is impressive in terms of dragging the team to top 4 finishes but big players are judged on the big stage, not against Burnley to secure a top 4 finish. Only my opinion of course.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Aug 31, 2023 8:41:39 GMT 1
Whatโs your point? Bayern not a top club?? My point is that he can not be in the best striker ever debate because he has been at a club in a hard league that achieved nothing for the majority of his career and now he is going to see out his last remaining years at a top club in a league with much lower quality so it is less of an achievement. I feel the same about all the PSG "stars". I could quite possibly be being a big headed Englishman but I don't give much credit to players that settle for one horse races. Regarding your last line, would you say the same about a player who signed for Man City, considering they have won 5 out of the 6 last Premier League's? I agree with the sentiment that Kane should have probably left Spurs a couple of years ago and he will never be amongst the elite players when it comes to looking back at the worlds greatest strikers. However, he is a world class striker now and I think going to Bayern will improve him, I also his legacy will actually be stronger from scoring goals abroad, rather than just sticking with Spurs (or going to say Man City). Anyway, it's interesting to see how many English players are heading abroad, particularly youngsters, I suspect part of it is because European clubs know they can buy them relatively cheaply and then sell them back to an English club at a huge profit (although obviously not the case here with Kane). Personally, I think it's a good thing as surely the players are going to benefit from new experience, culture, playing styles, etc.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 31, 2023 10:20:57 GMT 1
My point is that he can not be in the best striker ever debate because he has been at a club in a hard league that achieved nothing for the majority of his career and now he is going to see out his last remaining years at a top club in a league with much lower quality so it is less of an achievement. I feel the same about all the PSG "stars". I could quite possibly be being a big headed Englishman but I don't give much credit to players that settle for one horse races. I agree with the sentiment that Kane should have probably left Spurs a couple of years ago and he will never be amongst the elite players when it comes to looking back at the worlds greatest strikers. However, he is a world class striker... I'm not sure he would ever be considered "world greatest" material come what may. Few are. I just don't see him as that good a player. He's no Mbappe, for example (who I think is on an altogether different level). But as you say, he is a world class striker despite what he may or may not have won. I mean I've not spent time looking but I'm sure Benzema and the Dowski have won an awful lot more but I would still place Kane within the same bracket as those two. All are world class strikers (or maybe were). And that would also go for someone like Shearer who only won the one league title throughout his career (I think anyhow). Kane is defo a world class forward and he will be seen as one of the best forwards we have ever produced. I don't think his lack of medals will detract from that.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Aug 31, 2023 11:05:22 GMT 1
. Kane is defo a world class forward and he will be seen as one of the best forwards we have ever produced. I don't think his lack of medals will detract from that. I agree, however had he stayed at Spurs then in years to come then I think people would be looking back at his career and asking 'what if' & suggesting he's wasted his career. The fact he has moved away, is playing abroad (not in a Saudi/US league) and likely to win medals will improve his legacy.
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Post by servernaside on Aug 31, 2023 11:18:35 GMT 1
I don't think Jimmy Greaves wasted his career.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Aug 31, 2023 11:32:00 GMT 1
I guess Bayern have only won the Champions League six times. Not a really top club then. Not sure why you have responded so passively aggressive but ill ignore it. Of course Bayern are a top club, they have had some great players and have achieved a lot, my point is he wasted too many years at spurs. I just think you can not argue that he better than some of history's greats due to not being able to reach his potential in a poor spurs team. What he and Son have managed to achieve at Spurs is impressive in terms of dragging the team to top 4 finishes but big players are judged on the big stage, not against Burnley to secure a top 4 finish. Only my opinion of course. One could argue that to score the goals he has, in a mediocre team, is even more impressive than had he done it at, say Man City where he would have had better players creating even more chances for him. To be second highest Premiership scorer in arguably the most competitive league in the world is a massive achievement, and is almost world class if not quite up there with Messi & Ronaldo.
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Post by kenwood on Aug 31, 2023 11:51:32 GMT 1
Not sure why you have responded so passively aggressive but ill ignore it. Of course Bayern are a top club, they have had some great players and have achieved a lot, my point is he wasted too many years at spurs. I just think you can not argue that he better than some of history's greats due to not being able to reach his potential in a poor spurs team. What he and Son have managed to achieve at Spurs is impressive in terms of dragging the team to top 4 finishes but big players are judged on the big stage, not against Burnley to secure a top 4 finish. Only my opinion of course. One could argue that to score the goals he has, in a mediocre team, is even more impressive than had he done it at, say Man City where he would have had better players creating even more chances for him. To be second highest Premiership scorer in arguably the most competitive league in the world is a massive achievement, and is almost world class if not quite up there with Messi & Ronaldo. Iโd say Harry is world class but up there with Messi and Ronaldo ? No, but there again they are in a class of their own , similarly Pele and Maradona when they played , the elite if you like. Mbappe is possibly the next world star to be put in that bracket eventually but we will have to see. Im really pleased for Harry because not only is he a fine player but comes across as a really decent sort , a fine role model. I hope he wins loads with Bayern and becomes a firm favourite with their supporters .
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 31, 2023 11:52:49 GMT 1
Pele/Maradona Ronaldo/Messi Halaand/Mbappe
I'm sure there's a few others on the fringes, but they come across as their generational elites.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 31, 2023 12:10:44 GMT 1
The amount of money that players are been in offered to play in Saudi Arabia, I think he really wants the silver wear.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 28, 2023 17:15:44 GMT 1
Whilst I do wonder what he makes of what is happening at Tottenham currently he's certainly enjoying himself here. Hat-trick today including this...
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Oct 28, 2023 17:54:29 GMT 1
One heck of a match. Congratulations Harry Kane.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2023 20:09:08 GMT 1
Whilst I do wonder what he makes of what is happening at Tottenham currently he's certainly enjoying himself here. Hat-trick today including this... I would imagine in a normal run of the mill game it is every players dream to score a goal like that having attempted to do just that and they always look fantastic, I got beat twice from shots just inside my own half but thankfully never like that
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 28, 2023 20:16:16 GMT 1
English players flourishing abroad, Bellingham managed another 2x goals in El Classico today!
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Post by chirkshrew on Oct 28, 2023 20:23:12 GMT 1
Spurs better without kane๐๐๐
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 28, 2023 20:32:32 GMT 1
Spurs better without kane๐๐๐ Always said they'd be better, not because he's a bad player because he isn't, but because they were obsessed with everything having to go to or via him. Same with Rice at West Ham.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2023 20:34:29 GMT 1
One could argue that to score the goals he has, in a mediocre team, is even more impressive than had he done it at, say Man City where he would have had better players creating even more chances for him. To be second highest Premiership scorer in arguably the most competitive league in the world is a massive achievement, and is almost world class if not quite up there with Messi & Ronaldo. Iโd say Harry is world class but up there with Messi and Ronaldo ? No, but there again they are in a class of their own , similarly Pele and Maradona when they played , the elite if you like. Mbappe is possibly the next world star to be put in that bracket eventually but we will have to see. Im really pleased for Harry because not only is he a fine player but comes across as a really decent sort , a fine role model. I hope he wins loads with Bayern and becomes a firm favourite with their supporters . if harry Kane had played as many games for Barcelona as Messi had I think he would have scored roughly the same amount of goals and assists , and Ronaldo probably would have done too we probably would all have Messi or Ronaldo in our side before Kane but I think he is very much under-rated I also think the German league is a bit like the Spanish league, and not far off the Scottish league in which there is a massive difference in quality between the top and bottom of the division the premier league can be like that but its not set in stone as we've seen quite often and 3 points is never gifted on a plate
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