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Post by servernaside on Jun 21, 2023 9:20:19 GMT 1
I think the thread heading would be a more appropriate title for this board. Mercifully, such nonsense has been removed from the main board and I don't have to view this nonsense on a routine basis.
I did however make a rare visit this morning to see what nonsense was afoot and true enough the Guardianistas are out in force, spouting their nonsense on a variety of subjects.
Long may these comments remain away from the main board.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Jun 21, 2023 10:38:51 GMT 1
There's no doubt the board and this section in particular are Labour leaning, but I don't think much of what they've posted recently is factually incorrect, Northwestman in particular quotes from a variety of papers not just the guardian.
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Post by block12massive on Jun 21, 2023 11:11:52 GMT 1
I think it should be renamed to Northwestman's personal forum tbh.
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Post by mattmw on Jun 21, 2023 11:12:58 GMT 1
Despite Shrewsbury and Shropshire being a strong Conservative county I’ve always found the Town message boards to not be particularly Conservative friendly. Maybe it stems from the lack of support the party gave the club during the ground move
Would say it’s good to have a separate politics thread and as a left leaning liberal it’s always helpful to get a different perspective so hope our Conservative voting friends keep posting to help us understand what the government is up to. Certainly could do with a helpful guide at the moment!
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Post by wookeywombat on Jun 21, 2023 11:25:33 GMT 1
I think the thread heading would be a more appropriate title for this board. Mercifully, such nonsense has been removed from the main board and I don't have to view this nonsense on a routine basis. I did however make a rare visit this morning to see what nonsense was afoot and true enough the Guardianistas are out in force, spouting their nonsense on a variety of subjects. Long may these comments remain away from the main board. "spouting their nonsense on a variety of subjects." Examples please or are you just going to run away like Boris.
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Post by block12massive on Jun 22, 2023 13:48:03 GMT 1
Despite Shrewsbury and Shropshire being a strong Conservative county I’ve always found the Town message boards to not be particularly Conservative friendly. Maybe it stems from the lack of support the party gave the club during the ground move I wouldn't read too much into that. Those on the left tend to be more ideological, more likely to define their entire perception online or in person around their politics and usually waste no opportunity in telling the world what they feel about things. Conservatives tend to be more well, conservative.
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Post by mattmw on Jun 22, 2023 15:34:30 GMT 1
Despite Shrewsbury and Shropshire being a strong Conservative county I’ve always found the Town message boards to not be particularly Conservative friendly. Maybe it stems from the lack of support the party gave the club during the ground move I wouldn't read too much into that. Those on the left tend to be more ideological, more likely to define their entire perception online or in person around their politics and usually waste no opportunity in telling the world what they feel about things. Conservatives tend to be more well, conservative. Like Boris Johnson then?
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Post by kenwood on Jun 22, 2023 15:57:04 GMT 1
I wouldn't read too much into that. Those on the left tend to be more ideological, more likely to define their entire perception online or in person around their politics and usually waste no opportunity in telling the world what they feel about things. Conservatives tend to be more well, conservative. Like Boris Johnson then? Some would say more like Keir Starmer .🤪
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Post by mattmw on Jun 22, 2023 17:08:10 GMT 1
Some would say more like Keir Starmer .🤪 If there is one person you can accuse of having too many opinions it aint Starmer - Mr Middle of the road who won't give his views on anything. In fairness to block12massive I think he has a point that Shropshire Conservatives do tend to get their head down and support the local party, and don't tend to get caught up in some of the national policy issues that dominate the press and are more influenced by ideology around like gender politics, taxation and fiscal policy. In some cases I find local conservatives are even at odds with the national party especially round things like NHS funding, public transport and environmental matters.
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Post by suttonshrew on Jun 22, 2023 21:12:25 GMT 1
The local Conservative association is very pro club. Could have something to do with the new deputy chair political being one of our joint SLOs ;-) dont worry i state if there is a conflict of interest before someone asks.
In all seriousness the local party is firmly Shrewsbury focused and we now have a very active officers group and executive team. We can advise on national stuff but cant really force change so for me its more important that we fight for the town. Regardless of political allegiances its a tough time for all parties as there are so many external factors but we must continue to fight for the future fit, firstly and then for the other generation projects the town needs to cope with the influx of residents.
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 23, 2023 9:39:21 GMT 1
It must be a difficult time to be a Tory with the s**t show they’ve served up over the last few years….then
Sack Boris, elect Truss, disastrous budget fuelling even higher inflation and loss of international confidence, sack Truss and appoint a chancellor who spent years destroying the NHS through austerity now taking on the economy …
But hey ‘whataboutary’ the Socialists?
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Post by kenwood on Jun 23, 2023 10:24:45 GMT 1
I swear I’ve heard someone , somewhere state “ .. it could be worse, it could have been Corbyn “ before mentioning Brexit, COVID , Ukraine and, oh yes some note left on a desk by the outgoing Labour government .
I don’t know if severnaside knows but this present administration is entered in the Guinness Book of Records for having the greatest number of PM’s / Chancellors in the shortest time frame.🤔
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Post by mattmw on Jun 23, 2023 16:12:34 GMT 1
The local Conservative association is very pro club. Could have something to do with the new deputy chair political being one of our joint SLOs ;-) dont worry i state if there is a conflict of interest before someone asks. In all seriousness the local party is firmly Shrewsbury focused and we now have a very active officers group and executive team. We can advise on national stuff but cant really force change so for me its more important that we fight for the town. Regardless of political allegiances its a tough time for all parties as there are so many external factors but we must continue to fight for the future fit, firstly and then for the other generation projects the town needs to cope with the influx of residents. Local Conservative Association and SLO for Town - really are a glutten for punishment! Good work all round - the volunteers who support the local political parties do a really great job and deal with a lot of heavy case work so well done on getting involved and doing your bit. As you say very tough at the moment with all the external factors and set to get even tougher over the next 2 years
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Post by armchairfan on Jun 24, 2023 14:07:01 GMT 1
There's no doubt the board and this section in particular are Labour leaning, but I don't think much of what they've posted recently is factually incorrect, Northwestman in particular quotes from a variety of papers not just the guardian. I have no objections to members quoting from newspaper articles, but, so far as NWM is concerned, I do wish that he would, more often, enlighten us with his OWN opinions, not simply regurgitate those of journalists; this Board is, after all, supposed to be an open forum for MEMBERS to express their opinions; by all means quote newspaper articles to support or reject one's opinion, but whole articles? Yes, I know I have said this before, but I shall continue to make the point!
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 25, 2023 16:15:28 GMT 1
I think the thread heading would be a more appropriate title for this board. Mercifully, such nonsense has been removed from the main board and I don't have to view this nonsense on a routine basis. I did however make a rare visit this morning to see what nonsense was afoot and true enough the Guardianistas are out in force, spouting their nonsense on a variety of subjects. Long may these comments remain away from the main board. Good of you to visit, perhaps you could come more often and extol the virtues of the Conservative party, give us some arguments about how much better they are at running the economy and possibly even give us some examples of their honesty and integrity.
FWIW I don't think I have ever even picked up a copy of the Guardian, although I do admit to having seen a few articles online, but I hardly think the qualifies me as a Guardianista, which in itself is a hilarious play on words mixing the name of the newspaper with the Sandinistas who fought against the dictatorial reign of the Samoza family, the ever so delightful Contras and their US backers in Nicaragua. Personally I very much doubt that many Guardian readers would be up for a revolution.
Anyway, like I said, lovely of you to pop in and do come back again.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 26, 2023 21:21:21 GMT 1
I think the thread heading would be a more appropriate title for this board. Mercifully, such nonsense has been removed from the main board and I don't have to view this nonsense on a routine basis. I did however make a rare visit this morning to see what nonsense was afoot and true enough the Guardianistas are out in force, spouting their nonsense on a variety of subjects. Long may these comments remain away from the main board. Nonsense? Think we are dealing with a closed mind here.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Jul 18, 2023 23:15:55 GMT 1
Socialist echo chamber as opposed to an alt-right rabbit hole.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 19, 2023 9:37:29 GMT 1
I'm sure there used to be posters who thought a Trump president in Anerica was a a good idea.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 19, 2023 18:25:39 GMT 1
I vote labour and try to get news items from a range of sources , however I don't wear blinkers and would be just as critical of a labour government if there were as incompetent and have questionable morals that some in our current government have.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 19, 2023 22:17:47 GMT 1
I'm sure there used to be posters who thought a Trump president in Anerica was a a good idea. Was for me, he formed part of my Trump/Brexit double 😂 Free holiday! I think it was 64/1 if I remember rightly.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 20, 2023 11:59:46 GMT 1
I'm sure there used to be posters who thought a Trump president in Anerica was a a good idea. Was for me, he formed part of my Trump/Brexit double 😂 Free holiday! I think it was 64/1 if I remember rightly. Did you have Putin starting an invasion of Ukraine as an accumulator?
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 21, 2023 10:04:40 GMT 1
Nice to see others of a more balanced view joining in on the politics board!
Maybe a revival of debate is on the cards rather than endless ramblings pasted from the Guardian 👍
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 21, 2023 10:05:33 GMT 1
Was for me, he formed part of my Trump/Brexit double 😂 Free holiday! I think it was 64/1 if I remember rightly. Did you have Putin starting an invasion of Ukraine as an accumulator? Unfortunately not, although the 2016 treble is iconic. Leicester, Brexit, Trump - 4,500,000/1 I had 2 out of 3 😂
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