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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2023 7:45:33 GMT 1
Former Health Secretary Matt Hancock reportedly failed to follow expert advice that anyone entering a care home at the start of the pandemic should be tested for Covid, it has been claimed.
This could be a blow to Hancock and potentially the Tories if they were found to have given less than a s**t about their core demographic seeing their loved one dying alone in care homes.
'The texts were passed to the Telegraph by journalist Isabel Oakeshott'. To describe Oakeshott as a journalist is a bit much don't you think?
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Post by northwestman on Mar 1, 2023 9:28:24 GMT 1
As the clock ticked towards midnight on April 30 2020, Matt Hancock’s self-imposed deadline for reaching 100,000 daily Covid tests was in danger of being missed.
Just a week earlier, the United Kingdom was only managing 28,144 tests per day, and more than trebling that figure in a matter of days seemed like a tall order.
But Mr Hancock had a trick up his sleeve that enabled him to turn his longshot into a dead cert.
It was decided that tests that were despatched before the deadline would count in the total, regardless of whether they were ever processed. So when an Amazon truck loaded with more than 26,000 test kits left its depot late that night, Mr Hancock’s daily tally was surpassed, even though he knew that 80 per cent of them might never be returned.
Daily Telegraph
I ran a long thread at the time to show how Hancock was manipulating the situation. Here's the evidence.
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Post by kenwood on Mar 1, 2023 9:58:40 GMT 1
Well, he had to support his friend Dido Harding .
Her Test and Trace operation was expensive in time and money and was seen to be poorly run . Typical Harding , I wonder how she will fair when the true facts are revealed .
I think this revelation will show Hancock in his true light .
As for Harding, well, it shows it’s not enough to have a shared interest in all things equine when dealing with something as serious as a pandemic .Pity is, Hancock couldn’t see it and rewarded his friends with positions far and away above their level of competence .
I’d put the f. cker in jail if I had any say in the matter.
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Post by mattmw on Mar 1, 2023 11:17:28 GMT 1
What really puzzles me - and slightly worries as well - is how much use of What’s App there seems to be amongst senior ministers and the security risk that brings.
I’m really low down the food chain in government organisations but would never dream of using what’s app to discuss work business, yet it seems the Home Secretary and Health Minister are chugging out all sorts on very basic social media channels. Data security seems all over the place at the highest levels of government
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 1, 2023 14:24:45 GMT 1
The government was out of it's depth at the time. Seem to remember labour offered some sort of coalition? Whatever, the government made mistakes, perhaps only to be expected, but they were also far too lax at putting in controls that they could have pointed to now. Untested elderly sent to care homes? 100,000 Whatsapp messages? ppe from chums? Harding spending whatever to produce a rubbish test and trace system? Simply, no basic checks and balances, no controls. They didn't cover their arse and now it will come back and bite them.
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Post by northwestman on Mar 1, 2023 20:06:42 GMT 1
What really puzzles me - and slightly worries as well - is how much use of What’s App there seems to be amongst senior ministers and the security risk that brings. I’m really low down the food chain in government organisations but would never dream of using what’s app to discuss work business, yet it seems the Home Secretary and Health Minister are chugging out all sorts on very basic social media channels. Data security seems all over the place at the highest levels of government There's an easy answer to that. What's App messages are not subject to the Freedom of Information Act. Lord Geidt had trouble finding out about the content of Johnson's What's App messages when investigating him. |
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 1, 2023 22:08:09 GMT 1
You can see why some people were questioning the lines of 'follow the science' or 'protect the NHS'. I wonder how much of society has been damaged and how many lives were lost based on these whatsapp conversations?
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 2, 2023 10:26:17 GMT 1
You can see why some people were questioning the lines of 'follow the science' or 'protect the NHS'. I wonder how much of society has been damaged and how many lives were lost based on these whatsapp conversations? One things for certain, a huge chunk of society would object if they ever tried to pull the lockdown stunt again, it simply wouldn't be adhered to. |
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Post by kenwood on Mar 2, 2023 10:33:57 GMT 1
I see Hancock is furious with Oaks**t about her betrayal and lack of trust .
Well, Hancock lad, she does have form for this sort of thing but you chose to ignore it and now suffer the consequences .
What a sad little man you are.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Mar 2, 2023 10:45:51 GMT 1
I see Hancock is furious with Oaks**t about her betrayal and lack of trust . Well, Hancock lad, she does have form for this sort of thing but you chose to ignore it and now suffer the consequences . What a sad little man you are. Come off it; there's no way on earth Hancock didn't expect this to be leaked. This is revenge. |
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Post by northwestman on Mar 2, 2023 11:07:11 GMT 1
inews.co.uk/opinion/disappearing-whatsapp-messages-embedded-whitehall-scrutiny-vanish-2181127Ministers and officials are allowed to delete their messages long before any public inquiry or campaign group demands to see them. The big problem, however, is that many of these messages are outside the scope of the Freedom of Information Act. One Cabinet minister tells me that they were advised to impose an automatic seven-day deletion on their WhatsApps. I’m told by the Cabinet Office that there is no blanket edict on how long messages should be kept but ministers are advised not to hold personal data “longer than necessary”. What’s also curious is that some ministers have found that their WhatsApp messages to Boris Johnson have mysteriously disappeared from their private phones. Not all of their messages, just some of them, including those sent during worries about the protection of care homes. Most important of all, the Appeal court last November ruled the use of auto-delete software was not unlawful. If the Good Law Project fail in their appeal to the Supreme Court, there will be a strong case for changing the law itself, beefing up the Freedom of Information Act to explicitly include some private messages.
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Post by kenwood on Mar 2, 2023 11:55:59 GMT 1
I see Hancock is furious with Oaks**t about her betrayal and lack of trust . Well, Hancock lad, she does have form for this sort of thing but you chose to ignore it and now suffer the consequences . What a sad little man you are. Come off it; there's no way on earth Hancock didn't expect this to be leaked. This is revenge. A very interesting take on the matter , hadn’t thought of that .👍 Can we assume therefore that the great blonde fool Johnson is now breathing his last as a serious contender as leader of the Tory party. |
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Post by northwestman on Mar 4, 2023 21:00:17 GMT 1
It was 1am when the pictures were published online of Matt Hancock and his aide Gina Coladangelo in an intimate embrace in his ministerial office.
Just three minutes later the health secretary and aides began a frantic scramble to save his political career.
In the 41 hours that followed, Mr Hancock tried desperately to find exceptions to the rules to justify his behaviour.
His WhatsApp messages reveal the forever changing statements he planned to give to the public, from claims that no rules were broken, to apologising for breaking the guidance to eventually tendering his resignation.
Daily Telegraph.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 6, 2023 16:00:47 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Mar 9, 2023 12:42:18 GMT 1
Matt Hancock was censored by the Cabinet Office over his concerns that the Covid-19 pandemic began with a lab leak in Wuhan, the Lockdown Files reveals.
The former health secretary was told to tone down claims in his book because the Government feared it would "cause problems" with China.
Mr Hancock wanted to say that the Chinese explanation - that the virus being discovered close to a government science lab in Wuhan was coincidental - "just doesn't fly".
But, in correspondence from late last year and leaked to the Telegraph, the Cabinet Office told him that the Government's position was that the original outbreak's location was "entirely coincidental" .
It is the first time that the British position has been categorically stated. Mr Hancock was warned that to differ from this narrative, which resembles China's version of events, risked " damaging national security".
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 9, 2023 14:42:01 GMT 1
Matt Hancock was censored by the Cabinet Office over his concerns that the Covid-19 pandemic began with a lab leak in Wuhan, the Lockdown Files reveals. The former health secretary was told to tone down claims in his book because the Government feared it would "cause problems" with China. Mr Hancock wanted to say that the Chinese explanation - that the virus being discovered close to a government science lab in Wuhan was coincidental - "just doesn't fly". But, in correspondence from late last year and leaked to the Telegraph, the Cabinet Office told him that the Government's position was that the original outbreak's location was "entirely coincidental" . It is the first time that the British position has been categorically stated. Mr Hancock was warned that to differ from this narrative, which resembles China's version of events, risked " damaging national security". Frankly the government "line" on this makes perfect sense, you don't accuse a country without concrete evidence. Hancock was an integral part of that government, not just a sports presenter who presents ther own view separate from the organisation. Too many, like Hancock and Harry (formally known as Prince), just want to make their books a bit juicer with titbits. With this one, the public don't need Hancock to point out what a coincidence it was there was a "germ lab" just down the road. |
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Post by northwestman on Nov 2, 2023 15:24:10 GMT 1
The Covid Inquiry has been looking at discussions about what might need to happen if the NHS was overwhelmed, and care had to be rationed.
In his witness statement, Simon Stevens said Matt Hancock thought that, if decisions had to be taken about who would live and who would die, that should be a ministerial matter. He said:
The secretary of state for health and social care took the position that in this situation he – rather than, say, the medical profession or the public – should ultimately decide who should live and who should die. Fortunately this horrible dilemma never crystallised.
Stevens tells the hearing:
I certainly wanted to discourage the idea that an individual secretary of state, other than in the most exceptional circumstances, should be deciding how care would be provided.
I felt that we are well served by the medical profession, in consultation with patients to the greatest extent possible, in making those kinds of decisions.
So Hancock wanted to play God here - what an egotistical piece of low life!
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 2, 2023 16:24:50 GMT 1
We heard earlier in the week that Boris agreed with some Tory back benchers that old people would die anyway so Hancock would not have been alone. I don’t know what their definition of old is but, as someone who was in her early seventies at the time, I find the whole bunch of them totally and utterly despicable.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Nov 2, 2023 20:26:52 GMT 1
Nothing coming out of the Covid Inquiry is surprising.
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 2, 2023 21:41:43 GMT 1
So very true.
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