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Post by northwestman on Jan 23, 2023 18:38:28 GMT 1
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jan 24, 2023 11:23:23 GMT 1
Wow. Dumpster fire, as our American cousins say. At what point did any of this seem like a good idea to him? I think there needs to be a lot more scrutiny placed on people by local press during election campaigns and we need to ditch this slavish devotion for voting for the party with the right rosette. Some increased funding for local democracy reporting wouldn't go amiss.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 24, 2023 16:00:09 GMT 1
Possibly the most bizarre appointment and tenure in UK politics. In the last few years at least. And that's going up against some pretty strong opposition. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt and a second chance (when it comes to someone's past online comments, for example) but its pretty clear he's not nice people and has some serious issues.
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Post by kenwood on Jan 24, 2023 23:51:44 GMT 1
Possibly the most bizarre appointment and tenure in UK politics. In the last few years at least. And that's going up against some pretty strong opposition. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt and a second chance (when it comes to someone's past online comments, for example) but its pretty clear he's not nice people and has some serious issues. I remember watching him on tv shortly after he beat Clegg . Whilst that in itself amused me greatly I did think hmm something not quite right here . He seemed a rather strange individual to put it politely. It turns out I was right . What I find difficult to get my head around is how on earth did he get past the selection process . Surely there were better candidates . However , the good people of Sheffield voted for him and binned Clegg - democracy in action . As the man said “ the people have voted , the people must be punished “. I will say this , as a Labour Party member if I had a vote in the Sheffield constituency and he was on the ballot paper I certainly wouldn’t have exercised my franchise in his favour . His past comments would have shown him up as dangerous individual not fit for public office .
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 25, 2023 8:08:39 GMT 1
Possibly the most bizarre appointment and tenure in UK politics. In the last few years at least. And that's going up against some pretty strong opposition. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt and a second chance (when it comes to someone's past online comments, for example) but its pretty clear he's not nice people and has some serious issues. I remember watching him on tv shortly after he beat Clegg . Whilst that in itself amused me greatly I did think hmm something not quite right here . He seemed a rather strange individual to put it politely. It turns out I was right . What I find difficult to get my head around is how on earth did he get past the selection process . Surely there were better candidates . However , the good people of Sheffield voted for him and binned Clegg - democracy in action . As the man said “ the people have voted , the people must be punished “. I will say this , as a Labour Party member if I had a vote in the Sheffield constituency and he was on the ballot paper I certainly wouldn’t have exercised my franchise in his favour . His past comments would have shown him up as dangerous individual not fit for public office . To be fair I don't think his past comments and behavior were known at the time of the election, it was a short time after. Whether Labour should have had a look and looked into his his past, you can argue that. But then its down to whether political parties do that so much, whether they look hard enough and even if they did, do you give someone the benefit of the doubt (even though they do give a pretty good idea about his character). Just a bit of a mess all-round. But for sure, a rather strange individual.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 25, 2023 10:22:29 GMT 1
just another example of the dreadful drop in the caliber and morality of some MP's, unfortently it also tarnishes the hard working MP's as people faith in politicians falls of a cliff.
from Google "Only one in five (20%) of the UK population reported trust in the political parties, while more than half (55%) reported that they trust the Civil Service.13 Jul 2022"
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 25, 2023 10:35:03 GMT 1
just another example of the dreadful drop in the caliber and morality of some MP's, unfortently it also tarnishes the hard working MP's as people faith in politicians falls of a cliff. You do wonder. Reminded once again yesterday with Lammy claiming that Labour are one of the founding parties of the North Atlantic Trade Alliance. And that's the Shadow Foreign Secretary. I know and appreciate these are small things but they add up and when it comes to UK politics at the minute they seem to be creating a mound.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 25, 2023 10:59:51 GMT 1
just another example of the dreadful drop in the caliber and morality of some MP's, unfortently it also tarnishes the hard working MP's as people faith in politicians falls of a cliff. You do wonder. Reminded once again yesterday with Lammy claiming that Labour are one of the founding parties of the North Atlantic Trade Alliance. And that's the Shadow Foreign Secretary. I know and appreciate these are small things but they add up and when it comes to UK politics at the minute they seem to be creating a mound. the problem all parties have is the loss of faith and trust and such news items now seem the norm.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 25, 2023 11:49:35 GMT 1
You do wonder. Reminded once again yesterday with Lammy claiming that Labour are one of the founding parties of the North Atlantic Trade Alliance. And that's the Shadow Foreign Secretary. I know and appreciate these are small things but they add up and when it comes to UK politics at the minute they seem to be creating a mound. the problem all parties have is the loss of faith and trust and such news items now seem the norm. I suppose we ought to wait until the outcome before criticizing but even so, reported today that Alex Davies-Jones is being investigated over allegations she breached lobbying rules... According to the Sun, it is understood that Davies-Jones referred herself for investigation for asking a question in the Commons about British Council funding – shortly after taking an all-expensed trip with the organisation to Japan.
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Post by wookeywombat on Jan 25, 2023 12:13:23 GMT 1
the problem all parties have is the loss of faith and trust and such news items now seem the norm. I suppose we ought to wait until the outcome before criticizing but even so, reported today that Alex Davies-Jones is being investigated over allegations she breached lobbying rules... According to the Sun, it is understood that Davies-Jones referred herself for investigation for asking a question in the Commons about British Council funding – shortly after taking an all-expensed trip with the organisation to Japan.Typical of the Sun to equate this to the Owen Patterson affair. She was lobbying on behalf of a Government charitable organisation (allegedly), he was lobbying for a company which was paying him.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 25, 2023 12:25:28 GMT 1
I suppose we ought to wait until the outcome before criticizing but even so, reported today that Alex Davies-Jones is being investigated over allegations she breached lobbying rules... According to the Sun, it is understood that Davies-Jones referred herself for investigation for asking a question in the Commons about British Council funding – shortly after taking an all-expensed trip with the organisation to Japan.Typical of the Sun to equate this to the Owen Patterson affair. She was lobbying on behalf of a Government charitable organisation (allegedly), he was lobbying for a company which was paying him. I've no doubt that will help in her defense.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Jan 25, 2023 12:56:11 GMT 1
Crime of the century that he got in ahead of Nick Clegg, although he's done very well for himself out of politics so I guess he got the last laugh.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 26, 2023 11:06:33 GMT 1
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/jared-omara-what-happens-when-you-let-far-left-ideology-trump-mps-character-1767597The big question everyone is asking now is how such a thoroughly unpleasant misogynist came to be an MP in the first place. So how was he chosen as the party’s candidate in Hallam? Well he had two important things going for him; first his unswerving devotion to Jeremy Corbyn and second the fact he was disabled. O’Mara was never hesitant to play the victim card, regularly complaining that he suffered double discrimination because of his disability and the fact he has red hair. Disabled and ginger – bingo! O’Mara only got the gig because Labour didn’t think it could win. But because O’Mara was on the far Left, he attracted the support of the Corbynista shock troops of Momentum, who organised a highly effective campaign in 2017.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 26, 2023 11:57:08 GMT 1
“Momentum’s first MP”Ah, say no more. It all makes sense now.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 31, 2023 18:44:45 GMT 1
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Post by rob62 on Jan 31, 2023 22:28:35 GMT 1
It is a great shame that the antics of a few self serving MPs tarnishes the reputation and damages the trust that the public have in MPs Call me naive but i dont believe they are all the same
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 9, 2023 14:20:47 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Feb 11, 2023 12:03:31 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/11/jared-omara-should-never-labour-candidate-rachel-reevesThe disgraced former MP Jared O’Mara “should never have been selected as a Labour candidate” and deserves his four-year jail sentence, the shadow chancellor has said. Rachel Reeves was talking to the Guardian in the Bolton North East constituency on Friday, hours after key figures in the local party quit in protest at how Labour’s national executive committee (NEC) was controlling the parliamentary selection process for the next general election. The entire selection committee in Bolton North East resigned after they were not allowed to choose the shortlist, an increasingly common practice in Keir Starmer’s Labour party, saying: “Yet again, it appears that the Labour party is seeking to promote the views and attitudes of a clique in London, rather than local members in the north.”
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Post by kenwood on Feb 11, 2023 12:37:34 GMT 1
What we have witnessed is Momentum in all its glory . They were determined to ensure that this fool of a candidate would stand against Clegg although he was patently unsuitable for public office. Forget his disability , he just wasn’t too bright to put it politely and had a track record of misogyny.
Now we have a quarrel between Labours NEC and the local constituency party .
It mirrors in some detail the situation in Shrewsbury when our beloved MP was reselected as our constituency representative for the Conservative Party . That didn’t go down too well with certain party members if I recall who felt they were being dictated to by Conservative HQ .
The proof of the pudding will be at the next GE . In the meantime let’s see how all parties get on in the forthcoming local elections . A disaster for the Tories May well prove a disaster for Sunak .
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