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Post by block12massive on Jan 23, 2023 10:07:15 GMT 1
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Post by block12massive on Jan 23, 2023 10:11:07 GMT 1
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 23, 2023 13:36:08 GMT 1
...before crossing over to the Tory side of the Chamber to sit on the side benches, very close to her, staring as if to intimidate her.I wasn't aware he'd done that as well. He's vile is Russell-Moyle, an absolute t#*t.
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Post by kp on Jan 23, 2023 16:52:04 GMT 1
The trans debate is very NWO. I believe the final goal is TRANS HUMAN. Starmer is dangerous. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 24, 2023 15:48:04 GMT 1
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jan 24, 2023 16:08:12 GMT 1
Is it Keir Starmer who said it or "an aide"? I think it's the latter. It's in the ballpark of "unnamed source".
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 24, 2023 16:43:27 GMT 1
It was Matthew Doyle rather than Starmer himself... He's Labour's "Head of Comms person” apparently. Not too sure who Doyle was speaking to at the time either. Not a great deal said here but they are suggesting there maybe more to to come (but nothing as yet so who knows). But even so, its still not a good look considering what we have seen of late in the chamber (Labour MP's shouting down female MP's, Russell-Moyle's behavior). |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 24, 2023 17:08:09 GMT 1
"The Labour Party has been branded an “absolute embarrassment” by one of its own MPs when it comes to the conversation about women’s rights and gender identity.
Rosie Duffield said she felt she was in a “safe space” attending the first annual conference of the LGB Alliance in central London.
The Canterbury MP appeared on a panel entitled Cancel Culture and Free Speech alongside fellow parliamentarians Joanna Cherry, of the SNP, and Tory Jackie Doyle-Price.
Ms Duffield stayed away from the Labour Party conference last month because of the abuse she suffered after being labelled a “transphobe"
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 29, 2023 10:00:04 GMT 1
Just looking to see if this archive site can be used to share articles behind a paywall here... Labour shut down the antisemitism debate. Now it’s silencing women
Good article as it also touches on another aspect of this that some are ready to dismiss and that is the concern around people having to self censor, people concerned about voicing their opinion because they fear they will be targeted and attacked by activists. There is evidence available to show this is happening on campus and in certain workplaces, for example. And here we have it playing out in parliament from what is reported here, which is not a healthy situation at all. Those who are elected to represent their constituents must have the courage and conviction to put their head above the parapet. We know what the fear is of course; in addition to the intimidation, the abuse, the death threats, threats of violence, threats of sexual violence, you have the fear of being labelled this, that and the other by the usual suspects who have nothing more to offer than baseless accusations. We see it so often in political discourse now of course (we've even seen it here at times I'm sure). And here we again see it from Sturgeon... She really isn't coming out of this very well at all Sturgeon. |
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 30, 2023 9:16:09 GMT 1
Just looking to see if this archive site can be used to share articles behind a paywall here... Labour shut down the antisemitism debate. Now it’s silencing women
Good article as it also touches on another aspect of this that some are ready to dismiss and that is the concern around people having to self censor, people concerned about voicing their opinion because they fear they will be targeted and attacked by activists. There is evidence available to show this is happening on campus and in certain workplaces, for example. And here we have it playing out in parliament from what is reported here, which is not a healthy situation at all. Those who are elected to represent their constituents must have the courage and conviction to put their head above the parapet. We know what the fear is of course; in addition to the intimidation, the abuse, the death threats, threats of violence, threats of sexual violence, you have the fear of being labelled this, that and the other by the usual suspects who have nothing more to offer than baseless accusations. We see it so often in political discourse now of course (we've even seen it here at times I'm sure). And here we again see it from Sturgeon... She really isn't coming out of this very well at all Sturgeon. Does she come out of anything well? Scotland is an utter failure under the SNP. |
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Post by wookeywombat on Jan 30, 2023 12:45:41 GMT 1
Just looking to see if this archive site can be used to share articles behind a paywall here... Labour shut down the antisemitism debate. Now it’s silencing women
Good article as it also touches on another aspect of this that some are ready to dismiss and that is the concern around people having to self censor, people concerned about voicing their opinion because they fear they will be targeted and attacked by activists. There is evidence available to show this is happening on campus and in certain workplaces, for example. And here we have it playing out in parliament from what is reported here, which is not a healthy situation at all. Those who are elected to represent their constituents must have the courage and conviction to put their head above the parapet. We know what the fear is of course; in addition to the intimidation, the abuse, the death threats, threats of violence, threats of sexual violence, you have the fear of being labelled this, that and the other by the usual suspects who have nothing more to offer than baseless accusations. We see it so often in political discourse now of course (we've even seen it here at times I'm sure). And here we again see it from Sturgeon... She really isn't coming out of this very well at all Sturgeon. Does she come out of anything well? Scotland is an utter failure under the SNP. Really. Support for independence increased by 6% over the last six months with 51% of the electorate favouring the SNP at a possible general election up 7% according to the latest poll. |
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 30, 2023 13:00:43 GMT 1
Does she come out of anything well? Scotland is an utter failure under the SNP. Really. Support for independence increased by 6% over the last six months with 51% of the electorate favouring the SNP at a possible general election up 7% according to the latest poll. The Scottish people are as blinded as their leader. Worst drug deaths rate amongst other horrendous statistics. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 30, 2023 14:04:16 GMT 1
Really. Support for independence increased by 6% over the last six months with 51% of the electorate favouring the SNP at a possible general election up 7% according to the latest poll. The Scottish people are as blinded as their leader. Worst drug deaths rate amongst other horrendous statistics. Their record up there is a mess and the polls continue to show that they are no closer to independence than they were back in 2014 with the first referendum and when Sturgeon took over the leadership. And until independence is achieved you'll still have plenty happy to overlook their record and their failures. And then you have this latest episode. Still, I will give Sturgeon this, I think whilst I few of us have been following this sort of thing for a good while now I think its only now after this GRR bill that its starting to draw wider attention. People will start waking up to these ideologies. And as the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant. |
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Post by wookeywombat on Jan 30, 2023 16:16:43 GMT 1
The Scottish people are as blinded as their leader. Worst drug deaths rate amongst other horrendous statistics. Their record up there is a mess and the polls continue to show that they are no closer to independence than they were back in 2014 with the first referendum and when Sturgeon took over the leadership. And until independence is achieved you'll still have plenty happy to overlook their record and their failures. And then you have this latest episode. Still, I will give Sturgeon this, I think whilst I few of us have been following this sort of thing for a good while now I think its only now after this GRR bill that its starting to draw wider attention. People will start waking up to these ideologies. And as the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant. Latest Ipsos poll have 56% in favour of Independence again a rise of 6% over the last six months. |
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Post by wookeywombat on Jan 30, 2023 16:19:09 GMT 1
Really. Support for independence increased by 6% over the last six months with 51% of the electorate favouring the SNP at a possible general election up 7% according to the latest poll. The Scottish people are as blinded as their leader. Worst drug deaths rate amongst other horrendous statistics. "The Scottish people are as blinded as their leader." Your usual stilted viewpoint |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 30, 2023 16:30:55 GMT 1
Their record up there is a mess and the polls continue to show that they are no closer to independence than they were back in 2014 with the first referendum and when Sturgeon took over the leadership. And until independence is achieved you'll still have plenty happy to overlook their record and their failures. And then you have this latest episode. Still, I will give Sturgeon this, I think whilst I few of us have been following this sort of thing for a good while now I think its only now after this GRR bill that its starting to draw wider attention. People will start waking up to these ideologies. And as the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant. Latest Ipsos poll have 56% in favour of Independence again a rise of 6% over the last six months. Another poll that was reported on earlier this month (the first taken this year) had 'no' in the majority... Scottish independence blow as poll suggests 54% of Scots would vote ‘No’ in referendumThis was from 10 days ago, when was the latest Ipsos poll taken? |
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 31, 2023 11:31:53 GMT 1
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Post by wookeywombat on Jan 31, 2023 12:29:46 GMT 1
Admittedly before that, but as stated the later poll was taken before the UK Government decided to ride roughshod over the will of the Scottish Parliament which even a few Conservatives in that parliament voted for. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 31, 2023 13:08:30 GMT 1
I'm not sure what you're getting at, according to the latest poll which I link to the majority of Scots would vote against independence. So where is the increase in the number of Scots who want to escape? I suspect its as close as it ever was. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 31, 2023 13:29:52 GMT 1
Admittedly before that, but as stated the later poll was taken before the UK Government decided to ride roughshod over the will of the Scottish Parliament which even a few Conservatives in that parliament voted for. Sure, so at the moment, looking to the latest poll we have, there doesn't appear to be a clear majority for independence. I suspect its as close as its always been. But anyhow, clearly we see things differently. If you are going to complain about the UK government deciding to ride roughshod over the will of the Scottish parliament then first off, you ought not to try and pass a bill on a reserved matter (those who were looking to introduce the bill were warned yet they refused to listen). And second, you ought to do so with a bill that is popular and supported by the majority of people in Scotland. Because if we are talking about the GRR bill, it isn't. Looking to the numbers polled, those who are for or against the reforms that would have been introduced, there will be many more people grateful for Westminster stepping in (than angered at seeing them do so). This isn't the advert for independence that some would like to think it is. I'd say anything but. I don't think Sturgeon is coming out of this very well at all... Trans prisoner fiasco is down to Sturgeon — there’s no one else to blame |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 5, 2023 14:20:25 GMT 1
Admittedly before that, but as stated the later poll was taken before the UK Government decided to ride roughshod over the will of the Scottish Parliament which even a few Conservatives in that parliament voted for. Like I mentioned above, this isn't the advert for independence that some would like to think it is. An awful lot of people are happy that Westminster stepped in... SNP, Sturgeon and independence fall in poll after Isla Bryson trans prisoner row
A week is a long time in politics as they say and so things may swing back in her favour in due course but this is damaging Sturgeon. And it may get worse still if Sturgeon and the SNP still mean to contest the decision to use Section 35 in the courts. |
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Post by mcrshrew on Feb 5, 2023 15:40:07 GMT 1
He's got an easy ride being up against the hapless Conservatives but Starmer seems afraid to make his mind up sometimes, seeming afraid to decisively say what he stands for; he's been a socialist, a non-socialist, pro- and anti-nationalisation, pro-trade union, anti-strikes...
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 7, 2023 13:47:31 GMT 1
He's got an easy ride being up against the hapless Conservatives but Starmer seems afraid to make his mind up sometimes, seeming afraid to decisively say what he stands for; he's been a socialist, a non-socialist, pro- and anti-nationalisation, pro-trade union, anti-strikes... Nail on the head. It's an enormous opportunity for Labour, I think he might be the one to **** it up. We'll see, he could really come into his own, problem is he doesn't really truly stand for anything, he flip flops too much. Labour should be 1/100 on after the last 18 months. |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 20, 2023 6:50:58 GMT 1
Doesn't look as if things have improved for Duffield...
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 20, 2023 7:20:47 GMT 1
He's got an easy ride being up against the hapless Conservatives but Starmer seems afraid to make his mind up sometimes, seeming afraid to decisively say what he stands for; he's been a socialist, a non-socialist, pro- and anti-nationalisation, pro-trade union, anti-strikes... ...he flip flops too much. It appears he and Labour have done so regarding self-ID too by the looks. He does comes across as someone who will say and support anything that he believes will advance his career. But then I'm sure that goes for an awful lot of people within politics. And it could well be that be believe the "means justify the ends" if it means he can oust the Tories and get Labour in. But when it starts to define you to a degree, then perhaps it can start to cause some problems. This is something that has been levelled at him for some time now from a good few within the Labour movement after his leadership pitch and win, perhaps we're now starting to see play out in the wider electorate. The latest polls suggest the Sunak and the Tories are starting to claw their way back but we're still talking about a double digit lead (although granted "none of the above" seems to have pretty strong support and so there maybe a lot of undecided voters) but I'm sure Labour will win the next election, its just a case to what degree. I don't think even Starmer can mess this up but I do think he might make things interesting (so a Labour win but perhaps smaller than what the polls were suggesting a short time back). |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 20, 2023 7:53:12 GMT 1
As for Scottish independence and the polls... Opinion polling on Scottish independence
...granted a recent Savanta poll had the lead down to only 2% but that appears to be down to an uptick of "Undecided" rather than for "Yes". Three of the polls since Yousaf became leader have the "Yes" vote around the mid 40's mark, the latest at 42%. So again, the SNP look no closer to achieving independence than they did back in 2014. And regarding the UK government enacting Section 35 of the Scotland Act, rather than seeing an increase in support for "Yes" it seems to have increased support for "No". From that moment on only one poll showed a majority for "Yes" whilst "No" has seen a small increase. Which won't come as a surprise for a good few of us. And considering Yousaf means to contest the decision in court it may yet continue to play a part for some time to come. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2023 17:23:42 GMT 1
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Apr 23, 2023 17:40:51 GMT 1
A highly bigoted and unpleasant woman .too concerned with inner city London.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 24, 2023 7:48:21 GMT 1
As with Corbyn I'm sure he will be more than happy to see the whip withdrawn. Starmer is making a big thing of breaking with the previous leadership, this is another opportunity to do so (with Abbott being a close ally of Corbyn). Although there is to be an investigation and so Abbott maybe reinstated. But every now and then the mask slips. I'm not surprised that Abbott thinks this way (I think it's a given) but I'm surprised she thought it a good idea to make these thoughts public. |
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Post by block12massive on Apr 24, 2023 8:37:10 GMT 1
A truly awful woman.
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