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Post by northwestman on Nov 13, 2022 16:16:49 GMT 1
Well, ain't that grand. www.theguardian.com/society/2022/nov/13/jeremy-hunt-nhs-brink-collapse-efficiencies-must-be-foundThe chancellor has admitted the NHS is on the brink of collapse but warned the struggling service will also need to play its part in helping fix Britain’s broken economy. Jeremy Hunt said there were “massive pressures in the NHS … with doctors, nurses on the frontline frankly under unbearable pressure”. However, he said the service received a lot of money and “we need to do everything we can to find efficiencies”. About 20,000 people a day are waiting at least four hours in A&E, NHS England figures show, with many others stuck in hospital corridors waiting for a bed, doctors’ leaders have warned. Figures show 7.1 million people in England were waiting for hospital treatment at the end of September, the highest since records began in August 2007.
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Post by kenwood on Nov 13, 2022 16:53:28 GMT 1
Remind me I may have this wrong but wasn’t Hunt Health Secretary under Cameron . Didn’t he cause junior Drs to strike because of him fooling around with their contracts ? I’ve got a bad feeling about this!
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 13, 2022 17:46:36 GMT 1
"The NHS is safe in their hands"
Add that to the bonfire of promises.
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 13, 2022 18:02:01 GMT 1
And this is one of the problems.
I know recycling is the in thing now but do we really have to recycle ministers all the time? There must be other talents on the back benches surely?
How does a man who was supposedly supposed to know something about health suddenly Chancellor of the Exchequer? I could quote other examples but I just can’t be bothered any more.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 13, 2022 18:20:09 GMT 1
And this is one of the problems. I know recycling is the in thing now but do we really have to recycle ministers all the time? There must be other talents on the back benches surely? How does a man who was supposedly supposed to know something about health suddenly Chancellor of the Exchequer? I could quote other examples but I just can’t be bothered any more. Judging by the old not raising thresholds trick, it looks like Mr Sunak is still a "strong influence".
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Hunt.
Nov 15, 2022 13:55:37 GMT 1
Post by staffordshrew on Nov 15, 2022 13:55:37 GMT 1
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Post by neilsalop on Nov 15, 2022 18:38:11 GMT 1
All very well, but if they keep the Triple Lock they will have a moral duty (yes I know, morals in the Tory party are scarcer than penguins in the Arctic) to give a similar rise to those on benefits. If they do that they will have no argument when it comes to negotiating public sector pay rises, because if those not contributing, the retired, the disabled, the unemployed, the sick and yes even the few lazy are getting inflation matching uplifts, the nurses, firefighters, coppers, armed forces, etc will be bloody well expecting the same.
They need to remember that public sector workers and their families are voters too and they are unlikely to forget.
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Hunt.
Nov 15, 2022 19:15:13 GMT 1
Post by staffordshrew on Nov 15, 2022 19:15:13 GMT 1
All very well, but if they keep the Triple Lock they will have a moral duty (yes I know, morals in the Tory party are scarcer than penguins in the Arctic) to give a similar rise to those on benefits. If they do that they will have no argument when it comes to negotiating public sector pay rises, because if those not contributing, the retired, the disabled, the unemployed, the sick and yes even the few lazy are getting inflation matching uplifts, the nurses, firefighters, coppers, armed forces, etc will be bloody well expecting the same.
They need to remember that public sector workers and their families are voters too and they are unlikely to forget.
Should have remembered that years ago - public sector workers have been short changed for years - now the gap has become too big to bear.
Yes, benefits up with infation as well I expect. The minimum wage too - well that charge goes to the employers.
Sunik the socialist? Maybe just this once.
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Hunt.
Nov 15, 2022 19:17:57 GMT 1
Post by zenfootball2 on Nov 15, 2022 19:17:57 GMT 1
Remind me I may have this wrong but wasn’t Hunt Health Secretary under Cameron . Didn’t he cause junior Drs to strike because of him fooling around with their contracts ? I’ve got a bad feeling about this! i worked for 36 years in the NHS he was the most inconpetent health secretery that i had the misfortune to have. i could write a long list of things he messed up. all of which have come home to roost till lizz truss appointed an even worse one
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Nov 15, 2022 23:27:10 GMT 1
Post by kenwood on Nov 15, 2022 23:27:10 GMT 1
Remind me I may have this wrong but wasn’t Hunt Health Secretary under Cameron . Didn’t he cause junior Drs to strike because of him fooling around with their contracts ? I’ve got a bad feeling about this! i worked for 36 years in the NHS he was the most inconpetent health secretery that i had the misfortune to have. i could write a long list of things he messed up. all of which have come home to roost till lizz truss appointed an even worse one I’m sure you are right but Andrew Lansley must come a close second ?
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Hunt.
Nov 16, 2022 9:17:18 GMT 1
Post by zenfootball2 on Nov 16, 2022 9:17:18 GMT 1
i worked for 36 years in the NHS he was the most inconpetent health secretery that i had the misfortune to have. i could write a long list of things he messed up. all of which have come home to roost till lizz truss appointed an even worse one I’m sure you are right but Andrew Lansley must come a close second ? unfortently we have had more rubbish ones than good ones.
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Nov 16, 2022 12:52:56 GMT 1
Post by northwestman on Nov 16, 2022 12:52:56 GMT 1
Good evening, we are the middle classes of Britain and we are about to get clobbered. Are your shoulders feeling broad, Sir? Madam? They better be. Jeremy “Ebenezer” Hunt says “people with the broadest shoulders will bear the heaviest burden” after the “horrible decisions” he has had to make for Thursday’s Autumn Statement. We know what that means.
Sorry, your Government is too cowardly to cut the bloated and underperforming public sector because the Left and those people on TV will yell at them and say the Conservatives “lack compassion”. Nor will they cancel HS2, even though current estimates such costs could rise to £100 billion and is an appalling waste of money, because it will look bad if they abandon their last big levelling up project and their donors in construction will throw the most appalling strop. But they still need to fill that £58 billion black hole in the nation’s finances. So, that leaves us, the poor bloody infantry. The Government knows the middle classes can be relied upon not to take to the streets or go on strike or make an embarrassing fuss of any kind. That’s why, when the Chancellor outlines his tax rises and cuts at the dispatch box, it is we, the middle classes, who will be the designated mugs.
Many of us would be happy to pay higher taxes, I suspect, if we were getting high-quality public services in return. But we’re not. The UK has managed to arrive at the worst of both worlds: Scandinavian taxes for American public services.
The NHS is no longer capable of providing acceptable care to patients. More than seven million souls are stranded, often in pain, on hospital waiting lists. (A record 2.5 million are not working due to long-term sickness; I bet plenty of those are awaiting surgery.) Schools provide less and less to bigger classes. Over half of the country’s maternity units are judged to be “unsafe”. At the other end of life, growing old in the UK is a terrifying lottery. There are hundreds of “excess deaths” in the home every week; many don’t even try to get an appointment to see a doctor any more. Calling the police, if you’ve been a victim of crime, feels more futile than phoning a GP. Just 6.6 per cent of robbery offences and 4.2 per cent of thefts in England and Wales resulted in a charge in the year to December 2021.
We’re on our own. That’s the bleak truth. Don’t get ill. Don’t get burgled.
Jeremy Hunt says he had to make “horrible decisions” for his Autumn Statement. Sorry, I don’t believe him. At the stroke of a pen, the Chancellor could cancel HS2, save all the billions needed to fill his black hole and avoid the austerity which will cripple the UK, close thousands of businesses and drive us deeper into recession.
Will he announce that pragmatic measure on Thursday? Don’t hold your breath. So much easier to increase taxes for your own supporters, the backbone of Britain. Never mind, they’ve got “broad shoulders”, haven’t they?
Allison Pearson - Daily Telegraph.
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