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Post by cmonsalop on Aug 8, 2022 20:55:01 GMT 1
The way I saw it from block 18. Marco jumps for a ball and makes a bit of a hash of it and falls over a number of players including those on his own side. He decides to remonstrate with an Accrington player and in the process flings his arm out. Another Accrington player coming to join the fray walks into his arm and decides to make it look like he's been floored by Mike Tyson. Had this been a Tom Cruise film it would have been a fairly convincing fight scene and for that reason I'm surprised the ref didn't really **** up and show Marco a straight red. The Accrington player on the floor made a right meal of it aided and abetted by their physio. I don't understand why he didn't get a card for his play acting given that the ref had decided that Marco was not to blame, although I do think MM deserved a yellow for his reaction. That's how I saw it anyway!
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Post by MartinB on Aug 8, 2022 21:45:03 GMT 1
The way I saw it from block 18. Marco jumps for a ball and makes a bit of a hash of it and falls over a number of players including those on his own side. He decides to remonstrate with an Accrington player and in the process flings his arm out. Another Accrington player coming to join the fray walks into his arm and decides to make it look like he's been floored by Mike Tyson. Had this been a Tom Cruise film it would have been a fairly convincing fight scene and for that reason I'm surprised the ref didn't really **** up and show Marco a straight red. The Accrington player on the floor made a right meal of it aided and abetted by their physio. I don't understand why he didn't get a card for his play acting given that the ref had decided that Marco was not to blame, although I do think MM deserved a yellow for his reaction. That's how I saw it anyway! Pretty good assessment
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 8, 2022 22:30:37 GMT 1
We should just take it on the chin regardless. He will miss a cup game. All this does is identify that Marosi got away with pushing someone in the face. If the ref did not see it at the time then he could get a retrospective ban. He didn’t. He threw his arm out and caught the player accidentally right in front of the ref. Flannigans has now been proved to throwing a player to the ground and decent. I agree, that's what I believed happened, but we are Salop fans, the powers that be might see it differently.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 8, 2022 22:32:50 GMT 1
Upon reflection What I will say is SC is no fool, he would have seen the report on the incident and I am sure he would have to have had a decent case for him to take the risk of appealing.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 8, 2022 22:47:49 GMT 1
The way I saw it from block 18. Marco jumps for a ball and makes a bit of a hash of it and falls over a number of players including those on his own side. He decides to remonstrate with an Accrington player and in the process flings his arm out. Another Accrington player coming to join the fray walks into his arm and decides to make it look like he's been floored by Mike Tyson. Had this been a Tom Cruise film it would have been a fairly convincing fight scene and for that reason I'm surprised the ref didn't really **** up and show Marco a straight red. The Accrington player on the floor made a right meal of it aided and abetted by their physio. I don't understand why he didn't get a card for his play acting given that the ref had decided that Marco was not to blame, although I do think MM deserved a yellow for his reaction. That's how I saw it anyway! early on in the game, bowman got clear and in a split second went from clean through to second to the ball, he lunged in and caught the defender I think on his achilles, it was a clumsy late tackle and lucky for us there is not VAR as anyones guess is how it might have looked, no accrington players rushed to cause a fuss, the lad himself went down hurt without and retaliation from him, it was that bad he had to be subbed I love our selective memories ;-)
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Post by cmonsalop on Aug 8, 2022 23:00:34 GMT 1
I don't see what your response has to do with my post!
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Post by cmonsalop on Aug 8, 2022 23:22:50 GMT 1
The way I saw it from block 18. Marco jumps for a ball and makes a bit of a hash of it and falls over a number of players including those on his own side. He decides to remonstrate with an Accrington player and in the process flings his arm out. Another Accrington player coming to join the fray walks into his arm and decides to make it look like he's been floored by Mike Tyson. Had this been a Tom Cruise film it would have been a fairly convincing fight scene and for that reason I'm surprised the ref didn't really **** up and show Marco a straight red. The Accrington player on the floor made a right meal of it aided and abetted by their physio. I don't understand why he didn't get a card for his play acting given that the ref had decided that Marco was not to blame, although I do think MM deserved a yellow for his reaction. That's how I saw it anyway! early on in the game, bowman got clear and in a split second went from clean through to second to the ball, he lunged in and caught the defender I think on his achilles, it was a clumsy late tackle and lucky for us there is not VAR as anyones guess is how it might have looked, no accrington players rushed to cause a fuss, the lad himself went down hurt without and retaliation from him, it was that bad he had to be subbed I love our selective memories ;-) It's funny how things appear differently when viewed from opposite sides of the pitch. Yes Bowman was clear and you would expect favourite to get to the ball first, but the defender got back quickly and managed to get a boot on the ball defecting it away. He could just as easily have injured himself from over stretching as opposed to Bowman catching him on his achilles. Given that he had to be helped off not surprising he didn't jump up and retaliate! That's how i saw it anyway! Like you say a bit of freeze frame from VAR and we might all see it differently. God forbid!
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 9, 2022 0:08:10 GMT 1
Bowman had to let the ball bounce to have any chance of hitting it with control. In that split second the defender nipped in and Bowman’s ‘shot’ caught him. That’s what I thought at the time anyway. Completely innocent.
Flanagan appeal seems a complete waste of time but assume the club have other angles and evidence that says otherwise..
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 9, 2022 8:00:15 GMT 1
Perhaps Cotterill is going to call John Coleman as a witness for the defence.
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Post by MartinB on Aug 9, 2022 9:04:50 GMT 1
early on in the game, bowman got clear and in a split second went from clean through to second to the ball, he lunged in and caught the defender I think on his achilles, it was a clumsy late tackle and lucky for us there is not VAR as anyones guess is how it might have looked, no accrington players rushed to cause a fuss, the lad himself went down hurt without and retaliation from him, it was that bad he had to be subbed I love our selective memories ;-) It's funny how things appear differently when viewed from opposite sides of the pitch. Yes Bowman was clear and you would expect favourite to get to the ball first, but the defender got back quickly and managed to get a boot on the ball defecting it away. He could just as easily have injured himself from over stretching as opposed to Bowman catching him on his achilles. Given that he had to be helped off not surprising he didn't jump up and retaliate! That's how i saw it anyway! Like you say a bit of freeze frame from VAR and we might all see it differently. God forbid! Must admit from Block 18 I thought the defender injured himself by over stretching, was surprised when Bowman was booked. Mind you deserved to be booked for not taking the shot earlier
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Aug 9, 2022 10:15:21 GMT 1
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Aug 9, 2022 10:18:46 GMT 1
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 9, 2022 10:19:18 GMT 1
Oh ye of little faith. See ya later, Ref, you incompetent clown.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 9, 2022 10:20:52 GMT 1
My goodness I didn’t expect that. I presume this leaves Marosi with two yellow cards but no red this time.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 9, 2022 10:21:18 GMT 1
fair play , bizarre from start to finish , as he mistook flanagan for marosi he needs to go to spec savers shocking ref , this needs to go viral ( again )
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 9, 2022 10:23:04 GMT 1
Shame as it did change the game and we may have escaped with another point. We will never know but it does show how refs have to be up to the mark when making such decisions and presumably the linesman got it wrong as well.
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 9, 2022 10:26:03 GMT 1
Referee tried, and succeeded, in making a name for himself, and sod the consequences
A 3 game ban would be apt for that clown, as if though
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 9, 2022 10:27:16 GMT 1
That will teach the ref to shut the **** up. 🙂
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 9, 2022 10:28:12 GMT 1
If it had happened in the Premier League no doubt the ref would have been demoted for a while. Never mind we can have some good chants next time we get him! Don’t fancy his chances next time SC sees him though.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 9, 2022 10:31:15 GMT 1
Referee tried, and succeeded, in making a name for himself, and sod the consequences A 3 game ban would be apt for that clown, as if though Demotion possible I would think though
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Post by harboroughshrew on Aug 9, 2022 10:31:51 GMT 1
Must say I am very surprised by that from what I saw but football never loses its ability to amaze. Surely a ref and a linesman who could confer and then mistake a goalkeeper for another player in the team need looking at by the powers that be (as well as the 'see ya later' comment from the ref which could at the least imply petulance or at worst bias). Having said that Marosi's over-reaction was the cause of the whole situation and I hope SC is going to enforce a bit more self-control amongst his players because it cost us last season and will continue to cost us this season unless it is addressed.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 9, 2022 10:31:54 GMT 1
During Juan match between Barrow and Walsall, the Ref with the eyesight of a mole, dished out 10 yellers and Juan red.
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Post by shrewblue on Aug 9, 2022 10:32:33 GMT 1
Great news!
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 9, 2022 10:33:02 GMT 1
This is very strange.
It was clearly Marosi who initially elbowed the Stanley player in the face - everyone in the ground could see that.
And you can then clearly see Flanagan wrestle a different Stanley player to the floor, which is surely why he picked up the yellow.
How could there be a case of mistaken identity in there?
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 9, 2022 10:36:31 GMT 1
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Marosi said something after the match which encouraged them to appeal. He strikes me as an all round good sportsman who wouldn’t want someone else taking his card.
As for the ref it really is proof that they are not well trained and that some of them do not have the right personality for the job.
On a positive note I am feeling far more confident over my alertness as I was sure it was Marosi who should have gone in the first place.
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Post by pughywasfree on Aug 9, 2022 10:38:01 GMT 1
Well done the town for appealing.
That is absolutely scandalous though. They have cost us at least a point maybe more. This stings just as bad as the ghost goal. What an awful ref and lino. I hope we do not see them again anytime soon. I was so glad Trever Kettle wouldn't be about to ruin are games but it looks like we have another idiot to take over.
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Post by salop27 on Aug 9, 2022 10:38:54 GMT 1
Presume Marosi gets a yellow for dissent then as Flanagan clearly deserved a yellow for pushing one of their players over? Or Flannigan gets a yellow for dissent and Marosi for the argy bargy that started it? Should have been a yellow for the Accrington players theatrics after the Marosi clash. All very confusing but a good outcome eventually. Hopefully the lost league points don't come back to haunt us.
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Post by lynch on Aug 9, 2022 10:39:25 GMT 1
Good management. Sticking up for your employees in face of adversary 😀
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Post by block12massive on Aug 9, 2022 10:41:38 GMT 1
No chance of it not being overturned I meant obviously
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 9, 2022 10:41:54 GMT 1
There must have been more in it that we don’t know about. Perhaps the refs off the cuff remark didn’t go in his favour with the panel as well. Very unprofessional.
There’s always one incompetent ref to take over as one retires I’m afraid.
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