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Post by Pilch on Aug 2, 2022 23:15:40 GMT 1
I called out his ego when he was here and for all those people fawning over " deano", his arrogance cost us on at least two separate occasions I seem to recall. Was it Rotherham at home he made a howler and their players wound him up a treat after he'd allegedly been gloating at them the whole time. I remember Blackburn fans getting in his head as well. Definitely a talent and probably the victim of a sliding doors moment when he got COVID at the start of last season, otherwise he may well have been number one. Ten Haag will wash his hands of him and I can imagine he gets loaned out to a relegation contender every year for the rest of his contract. he did cost us a few times, maybe cost us 2-4 points at most, but saved us maybe 20+ points. had the ability to make difficult situations look incredibly easy lets just remember we had a side that were on paper set to be relegation candidates and struggle from the off we finished on almost 90 points enough for auto promotion many seasons in league 1 the star of the show deano
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 2, 2022 23:21:06 GMT 1
I think Godfrey was the star of the show personally.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Aug 3, 2022 9:34:03 GMT 1
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Post by block12massive on Aug 3, 2022 9:37:50 GMT 1
For someone who's career history by age 25 amounts to loan spells at Grimsby, Shrewsbury, Stockport and Sheff Utd he doesn't half think the world deserves him something. Think of where Hart was by this age - 50+ England caps, PL title and various honours, although I think his downfall began when he started believing his own hype.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 3, 2022 9:47:10 GMT 1
I don't think he is helping himself at all really. Nothing is secure in football, and as he admitted covid happened. He isn't guaranteed anything and De Gea has arguably been one of the best keepers in the world last season. United may have had a poor few years but they are still one of the biggest clubs in the world and for him to expect to be no1 is unrealistic at his stage of his career. I'm not sure he would have been at any other top tier club - Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Tottenham. Possibly Arsenal if Ramsdale hadn't come in. And I think that's proven by only going to Forest now.
With those comments I don't see a way back for him at United. Think his standard will be at best mid table side, as clearly he expects to be an automatic no1 wherever he goes
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 3, 2022 9:50:08 GMT 1
I think Godfrey was the star of the show personally. Of the loans certainly. He would have been the hardest to replace in that team. Look at the town team now - I'd say Marosi is on par with Henderson but we haven't a player anything like Godfrey since he left. A 2017/18 Godfrey would be a dramatic effect on the squad now
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2022 9:56:33 GMT 1
He always struck me as a character you'd love in your team but hate as an opposition player, we know that he's passionate and that clearly gets the better of him and until he learns to control that, he will struggle to make it at the very top level. However there's no denying he was a top quality keeper and was key to our success.
He needs to go to a club where he can become number 1 for 2 or 3 seasons so hopefully for him, Forest & England he does well there and it ends up becoming a permanent one. Personally I don't mind seeing this sort of interview, it makes a change from the safe & scripted interviews that most players give nowadays, rare to see such honest views.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Aug 3, 2022 10:10:58 GMT 1
He always struck me as a character you'd love in your team but hate as an opposition player, we know that he's passionate and that clearly gets the better of him and until he learns to control that, he will struggle to make it at the very top level. However there's no denying he was a top quality keeper and was key to our success. He needs to go to a club where he can become number 1 for 2 or 3 seasons so hopefully for him, Forest & England he does well there and it ends up becoming a permanent one. Personally I don't mind seeing this sort of interview, it makes a change from the safe & scripted interviews that most players give nowadays, rare to see such honest views. As an opposition team though I'd be looking to target him and get in his ear. He's still liable to a mistake and I think that sort of tactics could exacerbate it. And why I think I'd be wary that he isn't ready for a United type club.
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 3, 2022 10:40:13 GMT 1
It's good for a goalkeeper to be confident but you do wonder if Dean might have been better served by a permanent move somewhere after his loan with us ended.
He could have had four seasons under his belt by now as first-choice keeper for someone, and perhaps even have won a cup/honour as well as being a solid England squad player. Instead in 2022 he finds himself wishing for a point-proving game against a Manchester United who already know exactly what they think of him.
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Post by vladimir on Aug 3, 2022 12:00:35 GMT 1
we know that he's passionate and that clearly gets the better of him and until he learns to control that, he will struggle to make it at the very top level. Don't agree at all. There's an inferior keeper to deano who has no control over his behaviour and 'passion' and he is for some bizarre reason England's number one.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 3, 2022 12:54:15 GMT 1
we know that he's passionate and that clearly gets the better of him and until he learns to control that, he will struggle to make it at the very top level. Don't agree at all. There's an inferior keeper to deano who has no control over his behaviour and 'passion' and he is for some bizarre reason England's number one. 100% this, Pickford shouldn't be anywhere near the squad nevermind starting XI.
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Post by harboroughshrew on Aug 3, 2022 15:08:00 GMT 1
Looks like Dean has burnt his bridges with Man Utd now - especially with the new manager coming in there and wanting to bring the squad together. I will always be grateful to Dean for what he did for us and hope he can put in a solid season for Forest (I suspect he will be quite busy!) and get a permanent move there or somewhere else.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 14, 2022 15:38:59 GMT 1
up to his old tricks today saves a penalty to keep forest 1-0, and then gets booked for wasting time good old deano still, you'd rather have David de gea in goal wouldn't you ?
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Post by scooter on Aug 14, 2022 16:10:22 GMT 1
up to his old tricks today saves a penalty to keep forest 1-0, and then gets booked for wasting time good old deano still, you'd rather have David de gea in goal wouldn't you ? He’ll already be a hero with Forest fans. Hope it keeps going well for him, and he gets back into England squads
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 14, 2022 16:14:56 GMT 1
up to his old tricks today saves a penalty to keep forest 1-0, and then gets booked for wasting time good old deano still, you'd rather have David de gea in goal wouldn't you ? I thought it was OK when your own keeper wastes time, just not sporting when the opposition do it 😉
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Post by Pilch on Aug 14, 2022 16:50:36 GMT 1
up to his old tricks today saves a penalty to keep forest 1-0, and then gets booked for wasting time good old deano still, you'd rather have David de gea in goal wouldn't you ? I thought it was OK when your own keeper wastes time, just not sporting when the opposition do it 😉 that is so true, the amount screaming on here last week at accringtons antics, and yet we were doing exactly the same yesterday ref was awful last week, but magnificent yesterday and so on pyke was s**t last week, and s**t yesterday
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Post by Mortgagehound on Aug 14, 2022 17:52:34 GMT 1
Mr Henderson has a rare quality of instilling confidence in his teams supporters that he will save the penalty.
Cracking Keeper
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Post by vixenshrew on Aug 14, 2022 20:34:40 GMT 1
Deano played well today saved a crucial penalty and that led to Notts Forest beating West Ham. Well done to Deano and I wish him all the best.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Aug 29, 2022 6:30:18 GMT 1
Another penalty save, this time from Mr Kane.
I Believe that’s 3 out of the last 5 saved by Mr Deano
Not a bad start to season
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Post by Pilch on Aug 29, 2022 7:22:08 GMT 1
Another penalty save, this time from Mr Kane. I Believe that’s 3 out of the last 5 saved by Mr Deano Not a bad start to season i bet he is still fuming about uniteds shoot out in the europa cup final , then again it could have been worse , he might have been at chelsea and they would have brought kepa on and him off just to lose the shoot out 😜
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 29, 2022 7:58:16 GMT 1
we know that he's passionate and that clearly gets the better of him and until he learns to control that, he will struggle to make it at the very top level. Don't agree at all. There's an inferior keeper to deano who has no control over his behaviour and 'passion' and he is for some bizarre reason England's number one. Disagree 100% with both comments Pickford is the reason Everton avoided relegation last season and his England record is better than many before him. Deano is an excellent up and coming keeper as mentioned by Mortgagehound and others….
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 29, 2022 8:02:00 GMT 1
Don't agree at all. There's an inferior keeper to deano who has no control over his behaviour and 'passion' and he is for some bizarre reason England's number one. Disagree 100% Pickford is the reason Everton avoided relegation last season and his England record is better than many before him. Says an Everton fan 🤣
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 29, 2022 8:05:07 GMT 1
Disagree 100% Pickford is the reason Everton avoided relegation last season and his England record is better than many before him. Says an Everton fan 🤣 Got nothing to do with it Everton keepers since Southall with the exception of Tim Howard and Pickford have been poor to average at best.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 29, 2022 8:37:41 GMT 1
Don't agree at all. There's an inferior keeper to deano who has no control over his behaviour and 'passion' and he is for some bizarre reason England's number one. Disagree 100% with both comments Pickford is the reason Everton avoided relegation last season and his England record is better than many before him. Deano is an excellent up and coming keeper as mentioned by Mortgagehound and others…. this is true, for some reason after January he starts finding his form and when he's good he's good
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 29, 2022 9:08:03 GMT 1
I wouldn't have Pickford anywhere near England's number 1 shirt.
Let Ramsdale, Pope & Deano battle it out.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 29, 2022 9:57:26 GMT 1
I wouldn't have Pickford anywhere near England's number 1 shirt. Let Ramsdale, Pope & Deano battle it out. Well you do hate Everton 😉
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 29, 2022 10:09:22 GMT 1
I wouldn't have Pickford anywhere near England's number 1 shirt. Let Ramsdale, Pope & Deano battle it out. Well you do hate Everton 😉 It should be Ramsdale & Pope, two keepers who'll be in the top half of the table, not one fighting a relegation battle.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Aug 29, 2022 10:26:19 GMT 1
Well you do hate Everton 😉 It should be Ramsdale & Pope, two keepers who'll be in the top half of the table, not one fighting a relegation battle. Gordon Banks was considered the best goalkeeper in the world back in his day, a World Cup winner who played for Leicester and Stole City who were 2 very average teams back then….
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 29, 2022 10:30:04 GMT 1
It could be argued that a keeper who is fighting a relegation battle will get more practice!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2022 11:36:15 GMT 1
There’s no way England change keeper before the WC and rightfully so. Pickford has never let us down, and Gareth knows certain players he can rely on. Pickford, Trippier, Sterling etc are the types who can be out of form for club but still but in a performance for England.
We need to be going into the WC with players who trust and understand each other, not changing things around last minute when none of the other keepers mentioned have performed for England yet. Pickford has to us to a final and semi final on the last two attempts, madness to suggest this is the time to replace him.
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