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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2004 20:35:30 GMT 1
So we are 5 weeks in to the Gary Peters era at Shrewsbury and how do we think he has done so far?
Certainly the results have not been uplifting and we still face relegation if we do not improve. But is that GP's fault. I don't think so. He has inherited JQ's Conference side and has now had long enough to see what little quality we have on offer.
He promised us that the players would get a better work ethic and this has happened. I doubt there are many who would doubt that the players have worked far harder in the games since GP took over, it has not been reflected in points unfortunately.
Work rate does not always translate into point winning performances and at least GP can now see who he needs to get rid of, which positions he needs to get in cover and improvement in.
The New Year will be the time to start judging whether his influence on the side will lead to the climb up the table we all so clearly desire and demand. Money is tight but the Board did say they would do whatever it takes to keep the club in the League. Well when GP comes knocking on Wycherley's door looking for money to bring in players I hope the chequebook is on the table and not locked in the safe, otherwise our manager will walk!
My early thoughts on GP are that he is a man of his word. He sets the example to the players, Board and fans. He is hard working and has a vision for the club. It may only be short term until May but let us hope that he gets the support he needs and that he remains with us for next season because I feel he is the man that could transform Shrewsbury Town into a League winning team next year with a Gary Peters team.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2004 20:45:01 GMT 1
Agree with pretty much all of the above, I like Peters man-management skills, his signings look to be of a far higher quality to some of more recent attempts, he's not afraid to make tough decisions-eg taking Luke off at Chester. The only thing lacking at the mo is a decent run of results-given the mess he has to clean up that will of course take time. All in all i'm fairly pleased and confident with GP. As for turning us into a league winning team, I think thats a good 3/4 years away at best!
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Post by blueandamber on Dec 21, 2004 21:02:31 GMT 1
So far i'm impressed with GP> It's obvious he has shed loads of commitment, passion and fight about him, his signings look to be reasonable, i.e Kelvin Langmead, and Liam Burns, think Neil Ashton needs a bit more time... I think the most important thing this season is to stay up at all costs (Obviously) Then during the summer GP can make loads of signings and shift out the conf players, and build his own team,
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Dec 21, 2004 21:05:57 GMT 1
I really hope we survive the drop this year as GP will make big changes next year and i trust him more than any other Town manager from what we have had in the past right up to Graham Turner. GP has come in and we have seen the changes within individual players already, away at Sc***horpe convinced me, GP had set a game plan and all the Town players stuck to it even when going a man down, and then going 1 nil down against a top of the table side, 20 mins to go we pull level and are within a share of the points except then Challis decided to be charitable to the opposition and let them in twice. Remind me who was at fault for mansfield first goal ? If Ross Stevens isnt fit for sunday 3-5-2 anyone ?
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Post by rob on Dec 21, 2004 21:23:10 GMT 1
ashton can play left back as can the other new signing i think
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2004 21:26:56 GMT 1
Gary Peters seems to have the respect of other managers in the game. I am sure that he also knows a lot more about the players who are coming up through the ranks at many clubs. Hence his recent signings. Shrewd man.
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Post by rob996 on Dec 21, 2004 22:03:22 GMT 1
If GP is going to carry on with the long ball game (As He did at Preston) we need to defend deeper and draw the opposition Defence forward so that we can get the ball behind them giving our quicker players something to run onto. In other words play on the break, it's the way you will see Luke at his best. Good luck to GP.
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Post by Pilch on Dec 21, 2004 22:55:30 GMT 1
how about a negative view we just about managed to beat 9 man swansea and apart from a good 45 mins at chester all i've seen is some awful play with hardly any chances has ashton touched the ball yet ? to me langmead appears to be a jemmo type player (just what luke needs) and yet luke is for the chop ? on the bright side i'm willing to give him another month before the 'bring back quinny campaign starts' ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2004 0:00:50 GMT 1
If we can bundle our way through this season, we will start a new era in 2005 with a very different team, style and future.
We have a massive 5 months ahead.
Realistically, there's no-one i'd rather have in charge than GP.
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Post by McKie on Dec 22, 2004 8:11:07 GMT 1
I think inheriting a team is always hard. It is hard even when the squad is good. When it is fairly poor and lacking drive and committment it is a mammoth task. We have to hope that the teams below us continue to play rubbish and that to somehow stay up. Stuck out here i can't see the matches, but he is slowly bringing in players and those players will also need time. I am confident we will stay up. The season has a long way to go.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2004 14:03:09 GMT 1
Realistically, there's no-one i'd rather have in charge than GP. Dunno, in this situation I would'nt mind Ian Atkins
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Post by Not Impressed on Dec 23, 2004 14:26:13 GMT 1
as the name implies 1 win against 9 man swansea, far too many on here are way too easily impressed, League winning team next season, tell me did that come out of an early Christmas cracker?
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Post by mattsnapper NLI on Dec 23, 2004 15:01:20 GMT 1
as the name implies 1 win against 9 man swansea, far too many on here are way too easily impressed, League winning team next season, tell me did that come out of an early Christmas cracker? did you ever watch the shocking football played under Jimmy Quinn..? We did not deserve to get promoted, that was down to play off luck and the skills of Scott Howie The football played under Ratcliffe, particulary the 4-1 win against Crewe seems lightyears ago (and im on about the spell before we lost to cheslea and were doomed from then on) We have been a bad team for a long time now with a clueless manager with an assistant to whom no one knows what he did he's done far more to impress me than beating 9 man swansea when we were playing better against 11. certain players professionalism has sky highed, the squad seem more together just f**k off and support TNS - I hate frigging moaners who are just negative and dont see positives. OK On the board we havent got the points but things are changing
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Post by grinfish on Dec 23, 2004 15:05:58 GMT 1
If Ross Stevens isnt fit for sunday 3-5-2 anyone ? What do you care, you're not going cos you've had enough
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2004 15:20:10 GMT 1
GP was a great appointment. A breath of fresh air.
It's very disappointing that results haven't gone well since he arrived and that people are beginning to question him already.
Nothing is guaranteed of course. We may or may not stay up - personally I believe we will, perhaps just - but even if we don't I for one will not be pointing any fingers at the Board for a making poor appointment.
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Post by timgallon on Dec 23, 2004 16:44:10 GMT 1
just f**k off and support TNS - I hate frigging moaners who are just negative and dont see positives. OK On the board we havent got the points but things are changing A harsh response Matt, the thread asked for an opinion on GP and a honest one was was given. Football management is a results based job and while i consider GP is a breath of fresh air the results thus far and in particular the performances against Rochadale and Mnasfield have been poor. Lets hope the results improve as GP's management starts working. I can fully appreciate how some people are thus far "not impressed".
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Post by Not Impressed on Dec 23, 2004 17:35:12 GMT 1
yeah thanks matt sorry if my opinion upsets you but as i said way too many are easliy impressed as stated above football management is about winning games and playing for at least 90 mins, not 20 as dunc once said, as for a breath of fresh air, could have hired mr sheens cousin Air Glade to have done that.
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Post by Parker on Dec 23, 2004 18:06:50 GMT 1
Personally I dont know what the hell some of you expect. Hes only been here five games and most of them he has not had alot of choice as regards team selection due to injuries and suspensions.
The first two games we played, when we had a stronger choice available, we were playing the then top sides in the division and put in good performances. Against Chester we had to also play against the ref, who made some cr@p decisions and cost us the game. As I have said, since then GP has had his hands tied a bit and had to play players in the side that didnt have chance to get to know the team properly.
However, I will be glad to just survive this season in the league. JQ left us trying to stay in the league with what is effectively a conference team. Yes GP can improve aspects of their game but at the end of the day some of them just aint good enough. To put that right will take time and he must be given that time.
We should be getting behind the manager not having a go at him. If he gets a full team to choose from and still we struggle then thats the time to ask questions and not before.
Rant over.
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Post by graham on Dec 23, 2004 18:45:09 GMT 1
work ethic of the team far better, look more organised etc, let down by individual errors for goals against, (challis) especially, it`ll be a scrap and i hope that we can stay up, ps, just what did cooke do?
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Post by Gay Meadow SY2 on Dec 23, 2004 18:58:55 GMT 1
Gary Peters is the right man for the job - more committed than any other town manager I can remember!
Just look at the players work ethic since he took over (ok, maybe not Mansfield!)
COME ON YOU BLUES!
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Post by ssshrew on Dec 23, 2004 19:10:53 GMT 1
I agree with all the positive posts about GP. He's certainly the first manager I've come across who has come in and told it like it is .................. hard work and he seems to be getting this across to the players. He strikes me as someone who doesn't suffer fools gladly and that suits me just fine.
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Dec 23, 2004 20:04:03 GMT 1
football management is about winning games and playing for at least 90 mins, not 20 as dunc once said That comment was made as a positive, and it showed how the team can play under the influence of GP i agree with you that it should be like that for the 90 mins but that 20 showed big chances since GP's arrival, however if that was the case playing like that for the 90 then we we would be in the championship facing Wigan & Ipswich
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Post by rob on Dec 23, 2004 20:30:09 GMT 1
As a new manager inheriting someone elses squad it is very important Mr peters picked up immeadiate results so that the squad could see that his ideas actually work and thus build confidence and faith between players and managers.
This hasn't exactly happened as such for what ever reason. However Mr Peters has built up a "them Vs. us" mentality which was previously lacking.
However if we are to stay up I fear it will be depandant upon the Gods.
I just hope Camebridge don't appoint John Hollins, otherwise our task will become that much harder.
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Post by Stevenelsonfanclub on Dec 23, 2004 21:43:07 GMT 1
I'd say, on the whole he is a good choice, but a couple of earliy quotes which made me stop and think:
(words to the effect of) "Having a chat to Dave Walton has suddenyl made him into the player we know he is" - A bit early for self-appreciation and a bit too big a dig at the old manager for an early stage of his reign.
(words to the effect of) "I haven't signed a contract because I want to see if the club's ambition matches my own" - If he is that good then he will ensure that the club's ambition matches his own by the results on the park!
Just a couple of things that set alarms ringing, thats all!
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Post by jamo on Dec 23, 2004 21:55:13 GMT 1
He's got my vote.
For a club this size with the expectation levels that abound around the Meadow he's about as good as we could expect . Potentially we have a good chance of establishing a decent head of steam if he's given the support from all quarter's that he requires. Let's just get through this season.
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Post by AFCBally on Dec 24, 2004 0:59:26 GMT 1
tbh don't most managers say and do the right things when they are first appointed? i would be interested to read the threads just after Ratcliffe and Quinn were 1st appointed.
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Post by Dale on Dec 24, 2004 1:02:06 GMT 1
I agree entirely with Parker's post, I want Gary Peters to stay as manager of Shrewsbury Town for quite a few years to come regardless of whether we stay up or not, although apparently GP has a clause inserted in his contract allowing him to walk away if we do go down, I'm fed up of us chopping and changing managers as quickly as we have in the last few seasons, Shrewsbury Town has never been a club like that in the past and I dont want us to jeopardise that now, Gary Peters IMO, has to be the man to change our fortunes around in the long term, some bugger has to and I have faith in him to do just that.
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Post by SeanBroseley on Dec 24, 2004 21:57:37 GMT 1
SNFC has made two good points there:
1) Walton looks like a complete cart-horse to me. 2) What is Peters trying to achieve that is of benefit to my footballclub by not signing the contract that's there on the table for him?
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Dec 24, 2004 22:43:56 GMT 1
Since GP's arrival , Walton has been our biggest threat on set pieces ?
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Post by peterjones1 on Dec 24, 2004 22:48:18 GMT 1
Since GP's arrival , Walton has been our biggest threat on set pieces ? Spot on Dunc, but that admittedly isn't the key attribute you need from a defender. Walton still has a few creases that need ironing out but I think GP is right to give him this backing, hopefully we will see Stitch back to his best soon.
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