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Post by Northwest Shrew on Sept 2, 2022 7:59:19 GMT 1
So Stockton didn’t go anywhere.. he’ll be cheap in January
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Sept 2, 2022 8:00:27 GMT 1
Barnsley got Phillips in the end whilst Stockton stayed at Morecambe.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Sept 2, 2022 8:19:46 GMT 1
Winchester is an udder player who knows how to get promoted from this division. Great signing when he's properly fit. I can't pretend I'm not disappointed with the forward signings, although I'll be right behind them if they play, as I am with Pykey.
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Post by blueboy48 on Sept 2, 2022 8:32:30 GMT 1
Just having a quick look at today's business. I assume all is done and dusted and I can go back to my beer 😊 and enjoy the rest of my evening in Settle. Sleepless in Settle? Very good, that tickled me.
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Post by londonshrew75 on Sept 2, 2022 8:53:19 GMT 1
The two lads up front only make sense if both Bloxham and Caton go out on loan, unless the Udoh and O'brien injuries are not clear yet ? The Sunderland lad makes sense especially as he can slot in at right back if needs with Bennett. It's unfortunate, but it's a case of let's see where we are in Jan regarding Udoh and O'brien? Pointless a club with our budget splashing out a six figure sum on Stockton. Morcombe got a bit greedy. What will they do in January?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 9:18:33 GMT 1
The jury is out for me on the window, we have brought in some established players at this level but we have also gambled with the two youngsters up front. The missing bit for me is a Chapman/Docherty type player, someone from midfield who scores goals and provides that creativity, perhaps Shipley/Bayliss can be the answer now that Winchester is here.
To be honest though and it will sound very negative but I'm still in the mindset that who we brought in yesterday was almost irrelevant, the style of football we play will remain the same. However a rope a dope 1 nil win tomorrow might change that perspective
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Post by northwestman on Sept 2, 2022 9:20:19 GMT 1
The two lads up front only make sense if both Bloxham and Caton go out on loan, unless the Udoh and O'brien injuries are not clear yet ? The Sunderland lad makes sense especially as he can slot in at right back if needs with Bennett. It's unfortunate, but it's a case of let's see where we are in Jan regarding Udoh and O'brien? Pointless a club with our budget splashing out a six figure sum on Stockton. Morcombe got a bit greedy. What will they do in January? At present, if Bloxham and Caton go out on loan, we wouldn't have enough squad players left to fill the bench without bringing in young players whose only 1st team experience is against Wolves U/21s. Udoh, Bennett and O'Brien are injured, and we only have 21 squad players, Bloxham and Caton being two of them.
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 2, 2022 9:36:06 GMT 1
The two lads up front only make sense if both Bloxham and Caton go out on loan, unless the Udoh and O'brien injuries are not clear yet ? The Sunderland lad makes sense especially as he can slot in at right back if needs with Bennett. It's unfortunate, but it's a case of let's see where we are in Jan regarding Udoh and O'brien? Pointless a club with our budget splashing out a six figure sum on Stockton. Morcombe got a bit greedy. What will they do in January? At present, if Bloxham and Caton go out on loan, we wouldn't have enough squad players left to fill the bench without bringing in young players whose only 1st team experience is against Wolves U/21s. Udoh, Bennett and O'Brien are injured, and we only have 21 squad players, Bloxham and Caton being two of them. The way I see it we’ve got 17 senior outfield players plus 2 senior keepers… the rest don’t need to be named in the 20/22 squad as they’re underage……. Some debate as to whether the max squad size is 20 or 22 but should have reduced to 20 this season….No harm in leaving a space for an free agent, you never know.
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Post by northwestman on Sept 2, 2022 9:53:36 GMT 1
At present, if Bloxham and Caton go out on loan, we wouldn't have enough squad players left to fill the bench without bringing in young players whose only 1st team experience is against Wolves U/21s. Udoh, Bennett and O'Brien are injured, and we only have 21 squad players, Bloxham and Caton being two of them. The way I see it we’ve got 17 senior outfield players plus 2 senior keepers… the rest don’t need to be named in the 20/22 squad as they’re underage……. Some debate as to whether the max squad size is 20 or 22 but should have reduced to 20 this season….No harm in leaving a space for an free agent, you never know. A subject that I've already raised on here. What is the current situation with regard to squad sizes? This is what it says on the EFL website, but other sites suggest otherwise and state we are restricted to 20. Are goalkeepers included in the numbers? EFL Regulations Season 2022/23 44.9 Squad Lists. 44.9.1 Clubs shall be permitted to name up to a maximum number of Players in their Squad List based on the following provisions: (a) in respect of Championship Clubs, 25 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player; and (b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player. 44.9.2 The following Players do not need to be included in the Squad List to be eligible to play in League Matches: (a) in respect of Championship Clubs, any Under 21 Player (save for any Under 21 Player who is registered with the Club on a Temporary Loan Transfer); and (b) in respect of League One Clubs and League Two Clubs: (i) any Under 21 Players; and (ii) goalkeepers. www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/efl-regulations/UEFA defines locally-trained or 'homegrown' players as those who, regardless of their nationality, have been trained by their club or by another club in the same national association for at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21.
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 2, 2022 9:56:14 GMT 1
The way I see it we’ve got 17 senior outfield players plus 2 senior keepers… the rest don’t need to be named in the 20/22 squad as they’re underage……. Some debate as to whether the max squad size is 20 or 22 but should have reduced to 20 this season….No harm in leaving a space for an free agent, you never know. A subject that I've already raised on here. What is the current situation with regard to squad sizes? This is what it says on the EFL website, but other sites suggest otherwise and state we are restricted to 20. Are goalkeepers included in the numbers? EFL Regulations Season 2022/23 44.9 Squad Lists. 44.9.1 Clubs shall be permitted to name up to a maximum number of Players in their Squad List based on the following provisions: (a) in respect of Championship Clubs, 25 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player; and (b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player. 44.9.2 The following Players do not need to be included in the Squad List to be eligible to play in League Matches: (a) in respect of Championship Clubs, any Under 21 Player (save for any Under 21 Player who is registered with the Club on a Temporary Loan Transfer); and (b) in respect of League One Clubs and League Two Clubs: (i) any Under 21 Players; and (ii) goalkeepers. www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/efl-regulations/UEFA defines locally-trained or 'homegrown' players as those who, regardless of their nationality, have been trained by their club or by another club in the same national association for at least three years between the ages of 15 and 21. Appreciate that but then what’s this mean? Was supposed to reduce but maybe didn’t happen? “ Are there any Squad size limits in place? League One and League Two clubs will be limited their squad size to 22 players for the 2020/21 season. This will be reduced to 21 and 20 in subsequent seasons (2021/22 and 2022/23 season respectively). Players aged under the age of 20 are exempt from these restrictions.”
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Post by northwestman on Sept 2, 2022 9:58:50 GMT 1
I agree, and am confused. I've asked the SP if they can clear this up with the Club.
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 2, 2022 10:14:36 GMT 1
It could be that two young players who have come will be used as an example to Bloxham and Caton of what SC expects them to achieve and in the meantime telling them that with hard work and patience they are capable of doing so.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 10:44:22 GMT 1
Regarding Bloxham & Caton versus the two young lads from Bournemouth & Palace, I've seen people complaining and saying we may as well just play our two young players. But surely the obvious answer is the two young lads at premiership clubs are going to be better than 2 young lads at a third division club?
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Post by thesensationaljt on Sept 2, 2022 10:47:22 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 2, 2022 11:38:33 GMT 1
Roland is still chairman, so that won't happen as it'll cost more than £250k. 24, scoring for fun, well worth a £500k punt, but we don't do things like that, we're little old rural p**s-poor Shrewsbury.
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Post by shrewblue on Sept 2, 2022 12:05:34 GMT 1
With Dan being out for the season we will be hoping young Street and Saydee start firing on all cylinders hitting the ground running with some goals but they are young lads so I hope our fan base are patient with them!
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Post by chirkshrew on Sept 2, 2022 13:19:51 GMT 1
Will they play tho? One might, probably bowman and saydee👍👍
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Post by Pilch on Sept 2, 2022 13:29:32 GMT 1
So Stockton didn’t go anywhere.. he’ll be cheap in January no he won't, his wage demand will rocket instead
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Sept 2, 2022 18:07:59 GMT 1
I agree, and am confused. I've asked the SP if they can clear this up with the Club. Well, we will see the registered lists soon so we will find out
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 2, 2022 19:12:15 GMT 1
Barnsley got Phillips in the end whilst Stockton stayed at Morecambe. a pity we could not get him a midfield player like him with a goal every five games
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Sept 11, 2022 19:59:44 GMT 1
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Post by dazshrewblue on Sept 11, 2022 20:32:37 GMT 1
And your point is?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Sept 11, 2022 20:48:49 GMT 1
Several on B&A were suggesting Bloxham and Caton get sent out on loan. Put this on to suggest it ain't going to happen, as I said our squad is still too small to consider reducing it further sending them out.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 11, 2022 21:22:36 GMT 1
Several on B&A were suggesting Bloxham and Caton get sent out on loan. Put this on to suggest it ain't going to happen, as I said our squad is still too small to consider reducing it further sending them out. you must have dreamt that, I can only remember 1 person vaguely mentioning it if Udoh and Obrien were both fit but got shot down, most were suggesting our squad isn't big enough, I do remember a few suggesting pyke go out on loan, or just out
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Post by dazshrewblue on Sept 11, 2022 21:52:57 GMT 1
Would keep both as bench fillers but neither anywhere near the starting lineup.Bloxham was overhyped to soon,glimpses of potential an hopefully fulfilled,we will see.Catons had a few cameos hasn't had time to catch the eye,a long long way to go.
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 12, 2022 7:11:31 GMT 1
I'd have both Bloxham & Caton out to National League sides, they're currently behind 5 other strikers. (Albeit 1 injured)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 8:38:56 GMT 1
I know that Cotterill disagreed with Pyke going out on loan as felt he could develop better with us, however this is certainly something I disagree with him on and it would be interesting to know his rationale. Plenty of youngsters go out on loan to lower league/non league to develop, surely playing first team football will benefit them (and us), we don't have a reserve side so who are they going to play against? I can just about understand Bloxham not going out as he's been heavily involved in the first team squad for a while now but Caton is very much been making up the numbers.
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